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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:35 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Not sure if VoidedMafia is town.

Meh. Are you calling me not-town because I'm arguing with you?
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:36 am

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VM, since you're online, can you please elaborate on what you'd consider "ok" fluff and what is "scummy" fluff?
In post 836, Lucky2u said:

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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:47 am

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In class, so no VC. However, you'll get...a VC placeholder!
(What, were you expecting a witty one-liner?)

Edit:
At long last, a VC!


Eighth Votecount
:

Jackel98 - 2 (Voidedmafia, shos)

Voidedmafia - 2 (Nazarene, pirate mollie)

shos - 2 (Jackel98, ProHawk)
pirate mollie - 1 (DrippingGoofBall)
Bulbazak - 1 (EddieFenix)
ProHawk - 1 (Doyouthinkhesaurus)
Sonic Boom - 1 (ika)
ika - 1 (BBMolla)
Sonic Boom - 1 (Bulbazak)

Not Votinb - 1 (Sonic Boom)

With
13
alive, it's
7
to lynch.
Day One's deadline is Wednesday, November 19th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2014-11-19 16:15:00).


Spoiler: Changes from last votecount
Jackel98 - 2 (
Sonic Boom
, Voidedmafia,
shos
)
Voidedmafia - 2 (Nazarene, pirate mollie)
shos - 2 (Jackel98, ProHawk)
Nazarene - 0 (
shos
)
Bulbazak - 1 (EddieFenix)
ProHawk - 1 (Doyouthinkhesaurus)
Sonic Boom - 1 (ika)
ika - 1 (BBMolla)
pirate mollie - 1 (DrippingGoofBall)
Sonic Boom - 1 (Bulbazak)

Not Voting - 1 (
Sonic Boom
)
Last votecount was page 9, post 200.
Spoiler: Player Vote History D1
shos:
Nazarene->Jackel98
Nazarene:
pirate mollie->shos->Voidedmafia
Voidedmafia:
Nazarene->ProHawk->shos->Jackel98
Sonic Boom:
Jackel98->
UNVOTE

Bulbazak:
Nazarene->Voidedmafia->Sonic Boom
EddieFenix:
Bulbazak
ProHawk:
shos->pirate mollie->shos
ika:
Sonic Boom
Doyouthinkhesaurus:
Nazarene->ProHawk
BBMolla:
DrippingGoofBall->ika
pirate mollie:
Voidedmafia->Jackel98->Voidedmafia
Jackel98:
BBMolla->shos
DrippingGoofBall:
EddieFenix->pirate mollie
Spoiler: Voting Chronology for D1
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 05:21p,
Nazarene
Votes
pirate mollie
in post 54.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 05:22p,
Doyouthinkhesaurus
Votes
Nazarene
in post 55.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 05:58p,
Voidedmafia
votes
Nazarene
in post 59.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 07:57p,
Jackel98
Votes
BBMolla
in post 71.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 08:25p,
Bulbazak
votes
Nazarene
in post 72.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 12:46a,
shos
Votes
Nazarene
in post 83.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 06:44a,
ProHawk
Votes
shos
in post 99.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 07:05a,
EddieFenix
votes
Bulbazak
in post 100.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 01:37p,
Vodedmafia
votes
ProHawk
in post 108.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 03:43p,
DrippingGoofBall
Votes
EddieFenix
in post 115.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 05:10a,
Nazarene
Votes
shos
in post 120.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 01:21p,
Jackel98
Votes
shos
in post 130.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 03:06p,
Voidedmafia
votes
shos
in post 133.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 08:27p,
pirate mollie
Votes
Voidedmafia
in post 138.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 08:32p,
BBMolla
Votes
DrippingGoofBall
in post 139.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 04:31a,
Nazarene
Votes
Voidedmafia
in post 160.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 12:01p,
Bulbazak
unvotes, and votes
Voidedmafia
in post 169.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 02:13p,
Doyouthinkhesaurus
unvotes
Nazarene
and votes
ProHawk
in post 178.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 06:45p,
ika
Votes
Sonic Boom
in post 183.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 08:34p,
BBMolla
Unvotes, and Votes
ika
in post 188.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 09:33p,
ProHawk
Votes
pirate mollie
in post 190.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 09:34p,
pirate mollie
Votes
Jackel98
in post 192.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 09:53p,
Sonic Boom
Votes
Jackel98
in post 193.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 11:14p,
Bulbazak
unvotes, and votes
Sonic Boom
in post 201.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 11:16p,
Voidedmafia
votes
Jackel98
in post 202.
On Sun, Nov 11/09/14 @ 12:10p,
DrippingGoofBall
Votes
pirate mollie
in post 224.
On Sun, Nov 11/09/14 @ 07:22p,
pirate mollie
Votes
Voidedmafia
in post 238.
On Sun, Nov 11/09/14 @ 10:06p,
ProHawk
Votes
shos
in post 248.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 03:26a,
shos
Votes
Jackel98
in post 252.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 11:37a,
Sonic Boom
unvotes in post 267.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:51 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Not sure if VoidedMafia is town.


THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME

VOTE: voided mafia

<<< As you were already voting for Voidedmafia, this vote will not be counted in the voting history, be it caused by forgetfulness or emphasis. >>>
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:02 am

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pirate mollie wrote:THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME

VOTE: voided mafia

Reasons? Is this related to their most recent spat or because he is not trying to get you lynched, which...I do not even know what to do with that reasoning.


@Nazarene: Because in a bastard game, 1-shot miller is basically VT and doesn't affect the game at all. That seems pretty dumb to add a modifier like that to a VT is all.

Why? The game is bastard. The point is to mess with expectations; the only way to avoid problems is to avoid expectations.

Currently townreading Doyouthinkhesaurus and Bulbazak. Scumreading some peeps but need to confer with my other head before we make a serious case.


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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:10 am

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shos wrote:VM, since you're online, can you please elaborate on what you'd consider "ok" fluff and what is "scummy" fluff?

"ok" fluff is the kind of fluff that doesn't overly detract from your post or posts over the course of the game. It's where you can get away with a page or so of a side, non-game-relevant conversation (that's not about other ongoing MS games!) with another player because everyone in the game knows that you're still providing content that's usable and relatively decent toward your endgame goal.

"Bad" fluff is pretty much when you don't have that leniency. You focus too much on side conversations or small snippets of nothing that you don't actually
do
anything. Even worse is when you do that and
then
start complaining that there isn't nothing to work with when you are asked to start contributing. This is something that is pretty much entirely decided by the enter playerlist except yourself, even if you agree with the conclusion, as is the "good" fluff.

To make this more relevant to this game, I'm not trying to be hypocritical because I know I still can lean into the bad fluff territory (I imagine there might be some of you in this game that are thinking of me as such, or at least starting to). The thing is, though, that regardless of the gamestate--early game, late game, slow-paced, fast-paced, or what have you--requests/demands for more content are
never ever
good things. Granted, I think I just talked myself into believing you're town because I just realized that it's definitely not a good plan for scum to do that, but it still sets me on edge when any player whines about how there's nothing useful going on, demands that there be more content, yet has either not given anything worthwhile on their own to justify it or do not attempt to give something within the same post(s) that they request that info. IMO it speaks very poorly of you.


Mollie, that's terrible and you know it.

P-EDIT: SOMEBODY UNDERSTANDS MY CONFUSION WITH THAT, THANK YOU!
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:23 am

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VOTE: bulba
In post 836, Lucky2u said:

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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:01 pm

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shos wrote:VOTE: bulba

Is this just a contrarian vote, or?
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:18 pm

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im going to get to this in a bit,
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:19 pm

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does someone want to give me the quick idea while i catchup (i have glanced but i have to go back now and reread so i can compile everything)
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:34 pm

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shos wrote:See, I know this too. the problem is that I don't remember ikascum at all


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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:47 pm

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ok so i caught up but feeling lazy and tired sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

read list

1. shos - dunno, his last scum game is largly outdated, what was the case on him before? he was gambiting or some stupid shit?
2. Nazarene (TierShift+Aegor) - i have trouble reading aegor so im kinda waiting this one out. teir i have seen just be a derp
3. Voidedmafia - havent played with ever so im going to see how it unfolds
4. Sonic Boom (Metal Sonic+Titus) - its fucking titus, shes alwasy scum
5. Bulbazak - truth be told i have this huge biased with the stly he does and wil by default scumr ead it
6. EddieFenix - afk?
7. ProHawk - could be scum, i want to see how he plays out first
6. ika - not a hammer but a troll role
9. Doyouthinkhesaurus (Mathdino+blindmewithscience) - town considir it a mixture of meta and ~reasons~
10. BBmolla - scum, a major overreaction to my "first" read list
11. pirate mollie - mollie needs to talk with me, if shes known to be like me i will solve her merly by interacting
12. Jackel98 - i still dont get the case outside of "one-shot miller"
13. DrippingGoofball - im just ignoring untill further notice after bulbas agme.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:38 pm

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have I mentioned how much your posting sets my teeth to grinding because of how little care you have with spelling?
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:50 pm

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Not that it should overly affect my read, just expect me to feel a little...strained whenever I respond to a post of yours with multiple spelling errors.

Also, "stly"? (re: Bulb)

As for jackel, the majority case was that his 189 was seemingly talking about his scumteam and trying to bus them, which I agree is horrendously stupid for scum who's just gotten himself away from the suspicion from the claim. My problem was more that it was projected out
to
his team instead of
about
it, like he's trying to communicate base strategy while scum (presumably) doesn't have daychat.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:13 pm

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Voidedmafia wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:Not sure if VoidedMafia is town.

Meh. Are you calling me not-town because I'm arguing with you?


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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:14 pm

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mollie is town.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:16 pm

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Turns out, I still want this:

VOTE: EddieFenix
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:27 pm

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ooooooooh proooooohawk
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:32 pm

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You summon, I arrive.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:37 pm

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I'm getting strange vibes from shos, like not town-vibes. Also, up until his vote, the general vote pool has been spread thin. No-real-wagons. Could be trying to start something.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:40 pm

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ProHawk wrote:I'm getting strange vibes from shos, like not town-vibes. Also, up until his vote, the general vote pool has been spread thin. No-real-wagons. Could be trying to start something.


wouldn't it be easier for scum to join a wagon at this point?
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:41 pm

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He did, on Jackal. And then called Jackal 100-percent town.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:49 pm

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omg I just checked and you are so right!

VOTE: shos
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:00 pm

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In other news, Ika said he can "solve" you. How does that make you feel?
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:46 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Do you feel that I called you scum?

Little bit, yeah. If only because I can't understand how you're going from one place to another.

ProHawk wrote:In other news, Ika said he can "solve" you. How does that make you feel?

I think he's probably trying to solve anyone he doesn't know yet (or doesn't have a good grasp on).
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