Mini 1622: (Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia [-Over-]

[Sonic Boom]

i have ISOed prohawk and i have found him very fluffy indeed

but i detect no scumvibes

so meh

[DrippingGoofball]

i really dont know what to say about the prohawk case

like

i dont know what to say

You can say it's pretty good.

Hey Dino.

Can you do the same exercise you did with EddieFenix that you did with proHawk?

[Sonic Boom]

i really dont know what to say about the prohawk case

like

i dont know what to say

You can say it's pretty good.

dino was doing PbPA. According to something i read somewhere by someone in some site, PbPA usually isn't good

yes, i did that on purpose

However I would also be interested to see

Can you do the same exercise you did with EddieFenix that you did with proHawk?

[Voidedmafia]

How the hell are they still at L-2 when Voided, mollie, Nazarene AND Fenix have all posted since the claim?

Because I still don't believe it.

I like your case, though. If I wasn't voting for Boom I'd be voting for him.

Metal Sonic sucks at hydras.

That he does.

[shos]

Sonic Boom - 5 (ika, Voidedmafia, pirate mollie, Nazarene, EddieFenix)

There be more scum in this wagon, not just EddieFenix. There's one more.

I agree that there are probably at least two. I'd pick Naz and voided, though.

i really dont know what to say about the prohawk case

like

i dont know what to say

you know, you might be a cop and all, that doesn't allow you to coast like I did (lol )

[Metal Sonic]

Sonic Boom - 5 (ika, Voidedmafia, pirate mollie, Nazarene, EddieFenix)

There be more scum in this wagon, not just EddieFenix. There's one more.

I agree that there are probably at least two. I'd pick Naz and voided, though.

i really dont know what to say about the prohawk case

like

i dont know what to say

you know, you might be a cop and all, that doesn't allow you to coast like I did (lol )

The truth burns D:

[DrippingGoofball]

In post 539, Doyouthinkhesaurus wrote:How the hell are they still at L-2 when Voided, mollie, Nazarene AND Fenix have all posted since the claim?
Because I still don't believe it.

It doesn't matter though, you don't have to believe it or not believe it, it's a day 1 cop claim. He lives.

[Voidedmafia]

In post 539, Doyouthinkhesaurus wrote:How the hell are they still at L-2 when Voided, mollie, Nazarene AND Fenix have all posted since the claim?
Because I still don't believe it.

It doesn't matter though, you don't have to believe it or not believe it, it's a day 1 cop claim. He lives.

And we're totally gonna let him slide the rest of the way on scummy behavior just because of that? MS hasn't done anything to warrant believing the cop claim makes him town, before or after the claim.

[shos]

Voided, you're a '11 player, I expect better than that from you.
if he truly is a cop, he'll get NKed. scum will not risk him being a real cop with real loads of investigations in such a game. this is not a micro.

[Voidedmafia]

Voided, you're a '11 player, I expect better than that from you.
if he truly is a cop, he'll get NKed. scum will not risk him being a real cop with real loads of investigations in such a game. this is not a micro.

...Fine, then. If you all are so sure he'll be dead tonight, then let's get ProHawk.

Vote: ProHawk

[shos]

if he isn't dead, he'll have to start fabricating results and reasons for the results.

[Bulbazak]

@Bulba: Why not vote Fenix? You've said zilch on why he's town between your Fenix vote and your ika vote. Hell, the post right before your last one you called him scum. What changed?

Because it took awhile, but town Fenix has decided to poke his head out of the ground and say hi.

I'm getting strange vibes from shos, like not town-vibes. Also, up until his vote, the general vote pool has been spread thin. No-real-wagons. Could be trying to start something.

wouldn't it be easier for scum to join a wagon at this point?

He did, on Jackal. And then called Jackal 100-percent town.

This was already disproven.

So why is this scummy for ProHawk but not for Voided?

Nice PbPA, btw. It's all IIoA, but I'm sure that's enough to distract all the sheeple.

Oh wow.
VOTE: Prohawk.

See what I mean?

i really dont know what to say about the prohawk case

like

i dont know what to say

The case is bad and scummy, and you should vote him with me.

i really dont know what to say about the prohawk case

like

i dont know what to say

You can say it's pretty good.

Hey Dino.

Can you do the same exercise you did with EddieFenix that you did with proHawk?

You're kidding, right?

Voided, you're a '11 player, I expect better than that from you.

Unvote

Vote Doyouthinkhesaurus

[EddieFenix]

@Bulba, you know DGB's derp tunneling, right?
@DGB Try harder, pls. K thanks.

[shos]

bulba, explain thesaurus vote? that's a good townread of mine

[Voidedmafia]

It's not

all

IIoA, Bulb. And even if it is, not all IIoA cases are scummy. Besides, the overall reasons for the case are still salient.

Voided, you and I spent too much time hydraing, because your post here is scarily close to being me.

We spent all of

one

game (and a Micro at that) as a hydra. How does that happen?

<<< Easy! Because I am such a memorable person, I always leave an impression on people! So ANY time hydraing is too much time hydraing! >>>

Also, maybe I didn't look hard enough, but I believe I said that I was alright with Shos's explanation.

[Bulbazak]

@Bulba, you know DGB's derp tunneling, right?

DGB always derp tunnels.

bulba, explain thesaurus vote? that's a good townread of mine

Dino's posts are disingenuous and are meant to look like he's trying. There's been a few indicators that his posting is fake, #513 being a prime example, where he scum reads Guille for easy surface reasons (aka what he's doing with ProHawk), while simultaneously faking town outrage (The "explain yourself Fenix" line is so fake it can open its own fast food chain. And are you kidding me with the agreement on MS but then coming down on the "we should still not vote him" camp? He just stayed in the lines of the common consensus, and nobody blinked and instead assigned him townie points.). I've been getting a fake vibe from Dino's posts for awhile now, and his recent "case" on ProHawk just sealed the read.

It's not

all

IIoA, Bulb. And even if it is, not all IIoA cases are scummy. Besides, the overall reasons for the case are still salient.

The case is a piece of crap. This is town ProHawk behavior, and anybody with any semblance of intelligence should recognize that. It's true that he hasn't said much, but it's not true that he's only provided fluff. If anyone would take the time to examine those posts in context, they'd find that they serve a purpose at that time. ProHawk isn't one to make huge posts and make waves. He

is

one to get right to the point. Dino's post is garbage meant to make him look town and fool people into townreading him and agreeing with him based on the size of his post and the amount of links. Dino is scum, ProHawk is town, and more people need to get on the same page and stop derpwagoning based off of tryhard scum's say so.

[Doyouthinkhesaurus]

You can say it's pretty good.

Hey Dino.

Can you do the same exercise you did with EddieFenix that you did with proHawk?

The only reason I made a case on ProHawk is because no one goddamn noticed him coasting the entire game.

I'm pretty sure everyone knows why Fenix is scum. He townread Sonic up until the cop claim and then put him at L-1. But sure, if I find time, then yeah.

[Bulbazak]

He townread Sonic up until the cop claim and then put him at L-1.

Yes, because I'm sure every scum in his right mind thinks this is a good idea.

[Doyouthinkhesaurus]

dino was doing PbPA. According to something i read somewhere by someone in some site, PbPA usually isn't good

Well, when literally every post fits the fact that he's provided nothing this entire game but fluff, sheeping, and deflection, I'd say there exists a pattern. It's not like I used PbPA to come to this conclusion, I've been saying it since like his 5th post. Go ISO him if you want. Show me how he's contributed.

Edit: You haven't yet explained what caused you to flip-flop on your Fenix read, Bulba.

[Bulbazak]

dino was doing PbPA. According to something i read somewhere by someone in some site, PbPA usually isn't good

Well, when literally every post fits the fact that he's provided nothing this entire game but fluff, sheeping, and deflection, I'd say there exists a pattern.

So...not true, cheap reason, and buzz word. Got it.

You haven't yet explained what caused you to flip-flop on your Fenix read, Bulba.

And I'm not going to. How does that make you feel?

[Doyouthinkhesaurus]

@Bulba: I wouldn't say there was any outrage or emotion behind 'explain yourself Fenix', haha. Probably why it sounded fake. Also, 513 being a catchup post, it was

very

badly structured and didn't have a point like most of my other posts, so I can understand how it sounded off-- I wrote it in real time as I was reading through.

I believe I agreed that Sonic was being scummy, but A. this makes sense under the lens of him trying to avoid the NK, and B. it's idiotic to vote an un-cc'd cop claim. If you'd like to show me how that's inconsistent, go ahead.

I don't know ProHawk. You're gonna have to show me how this is town ProHawk behaviour, because to me this is scum behaviour. I have been analysing these posts in context since the moment I started scumreading them. His 'points' are nothing new and his mollie fight early on was utter BS.

Here's the problem with your issues with me, Bulba. If I stay in the lines of common consensus so much, why, as scum, would I tunnel ProHawk, defend shos, defend Jackel, etc etc? Your summary of my behaviour is inconsistent.

Edit:
A. Deflection. As in, every time I suspect him, he either goes and says "Oh, but mollie's done that more than I have" which isn't even true, or "You're gonna have to stop saying the same thing about me", which is just dumb.
And yes it's true. Prove me wrong.
B. Then I would say that your defence of Fenix holds no ground and if you think he's town, might wanna say why and not let him get lynched.

[Doyouthinkhesaurus]

It's funny how I predicted this wouldn't be a very case-y game, and now you go and scumread me due to my case. If you don't like cases, just say tl;dr and don't read it. But cases aren't scummy like people like to think.

[pirate mollie]

okay. so there isn't a cc to sonic boom so whatever.

UNVOTE: sonic boom

its just that I a ton of times and he either fakeclaims or gambits IN EVERY GAME.

@ bulba - dgb had a huge slapfight in pikman and ever since then we have been giving each other space for a good bit. I think I am starting to see glimmers of town!dgb tho. also dgb can be wrong sometimes but I would never say that what

[Bulbazak]

@Bulba: I wouldn't say there was any outrage or emotion behind 'explain yourself Fenix', haha.

Telling someone to "explain yourself" is a way to make it appear like you're scumhunting. Actual town would have had a more pointed question. Asking someone to explain themselves is vague and noncommittal, and it shows that you're not interested in the answers or figuring that person out as much as you are in putting in the appearance of questioning them.

I believe I agreed that Sonic was being scummy, but A. this makes sense under the lens of him trying to avoid the NK, and B. it's idiotic to vote an un-cc'd cop claim. If you'd like to show me how that's inconsistent, go ahead.

I never said it was inconsistent. I said it was a very convenient stance to take.

His 'points' are nothing new and his mollie fight early on was utter BS.

I can see how he'd be concerned about Mollie. As for no original points, that's BS, as he was the first to push Shos and provide reasons to vote Jackel.

Here's the problem with your issues with me, Bulba. If I stay in the lines of common consensus so much, why, as scum, would I tunnel ProHawk, defend shos, defend Jackel, etc etc? Your summary of my behaviour is inconsistent.

First, I only said that you stayed in the lines of common consensus when it came to Sonic. That had nothing to do with your overall behavior. Second, and in order: As scum, it's your job to push a mislynch, but to stay off of lynches that can point back to you and get you killed. The ProHawk lynch is either A.) not going to happen and is therefore safe or B.) it will be pushed through by town at the last minute, and no one will think to look at you, either because it will be a deadline wagon or because you pushed it in the first place and they are expecting scum somewhere in the middle of the wagon. As for Shos, yes, you were the first one to say the wagon was bad, before it even became a wagon. But again, a good scum player learns to recognize which wagons they should stay away from, and Shos is the definition of an easy wagon, and one that would be extremely dangerous for scum. The same goes for Jackel, although it is not true that you defended him. You actually took your sweet time coming out with a town read, and then, it was only conditionally. You fence sat on that read until everyone else had voiced their opinion, and then you agreed that it would be unwise to lynch him.

A. Deflection. As in, every time I suspect him, he either goes and says "Oh, but mollie's done that more than I have" which isn't even true, or "You're gonna have to stop saying the same thing about me", which is just dumb.

Of your three accusations of deflection, one was him bantering with Mollie early game, and the other two are him telling you that you're tunneling and to essentially screw yourself. That's not deflection. That's confidence. Learn what a term means before you misuse it.

B. Then I would say that your defence of Fenix holds no ground and if you think he's town, might wanna say why and not let him get lynched.

Nope. Not gonna tell you. Now accuse me of deflection.

It's funny how I predicted this wouldn't be a very case-y game, and now you go and scumread me due to my case. If you don't like cases, just say tl;dr and don't read it. But cases aren't scummy like people like to think.

I never said I don't like cases or that cases or scummy. All I said was that your case is fake and is meant to make you look more town and to fool others into mislynching ProHawk. As I pointed out, your "case" contains zero actual analysis and is just you quoting or linking a post while making a comment, mostly saying fluff, which is a non-reason to vote somebody.

[Voidedmafia]

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