Mini 1622: (Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia [-Over-]

[Nazarene]

I've got my eye on you, Sonic. Don't think I won't investigate further down the line if you start to smell fishy to me.

What the hell is this? Does he not smell fishy to you now?

Unvote

Vote Doyouthinkhesaurus

Bulba, are you serious? While Dino's case was hardly damning, pointing out fluff (a claim that you have labeled as vague, which it is clearly not) constitutes a case in itself. Even though you think the case is crap, how can you honestly maintain that Dino is attempting to start what you have called a difficult wagon at the end of Day 1? That makes no sense, and this Head fails to see how you can believe his ISO as a whole is scum-motivated.

-A

[Nazarene]

We have actually scum candidates. DGB, calm down. Bulba, back the eff of the moronic policy lynch idea.

-A

[Voidedmafia]

We have actually scum candidates. DGB, calm down. Bulba, back the eff of the moronic policy lynch idea.

-A

Wholly agree to this.

[istott]

Hey, Bulba! Happy 2 years!

[istott]

i dont think the policy lynch of DGB is a great idea. As Nazarene said, we do have plenty of scum candidates.

[Mathdino]

Okay so I'm not going to respond to Bulba's gigantic quote wall in full. Just want to say a couple things:

1. ProHawk didn't 'push' shos at all, and he certainly wasn't the first. Both his votes were naked, it wasn't until after everyone had already gone after shos that he started pushing with his words.
2. I found it odd that Nazarene was asking others for their opinions before providing hers. I will say that I've believed the claim for the most part all game.
3. I

should

be scumreading you for WKing ProHawk? What? I think you're town, and I've thought that for a while. I think your reads just suck right now.

Also you're considering a policy lynch if your grand total of 1 scumread doesn't happen? Really?

[EddieFenix]

I've got my eye on you, Sonic. Don't think I won't investigate further down the line if you start to smell fishy to me.

What the hell is this? Does he not smell fishy to you now?

This is me telling Sonic I'm watching him.

[mastin2]

Twentieth Votecount

:

ProHawk - 4 (shos, istott, Mathdino, Voidedmafia)

Mathdino - 2 (ProHawk, Bulbazak)

Voidedmafia - 2 (pirate mollie, Nazarene)
ika - 1 (guille2015)
guille2015 - 1 (Sonic Boom)

Not voting - 3 (EddieFenix, DrippingGoofBall, ika)

With

13

alive, it's

7

to lynch.

Day One's deadline is Wednesday, November 19th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2014-11-19 16:15:00).

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

ProHawk - 4 (shos, istott, Mathdino, Voidedmafia)
Mathdino - 2 (ProHawk, Bulbazak)
Voidedmafia - 2 (pirate mollie, Nazarene)
ika - 1 (guille2015)
guille2015 - 1 (Sonic Boom)

Not voting - 3 (EddieFenix, DrippingGoofBall, ika)

Last votecount was page 26, post 636.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D1

shos:

Nazarene->Jackel98->Bulbazak->guille2015->UNVOTE->guille2015->ProHawk

Nazarene:

pirate mollie->shos->Voidedmafia->Sonic Boom->Voidedmafia

Voidedmafia:

Nazarene->ProHawk->shos->Jackel98->guille2015->Sonic Boom->ProHawk->

UNVOTE

->ProHawk

Sonic Boom:

Jackel98->

UNVOTE

->shos->guille2015

Bulbazak:

Nazarene->Voidedmafia->Sonic Boom->ika->Sonic Boom->EddieFenix->ika->Doyouthinkhesaurus

EddieFenix:

Bulbazak->Sonic Boom->

UNVOTE

ProHawk:

shos->pirate mollie->shos->Doyouthinkhesaurus

ika:

Sonic Boom->

UN-VOTE

Doyouthinkhesaurus/Mathdino:

Nazarene->ProHawk->EddieFenix->ProHawk

BBMolla/guille2015:

DrippingGoofBall->ika | shos->

UN-VOTE

->Sonic Boom->

UN-VOTE

->ika

pirate mollie:

Voidedmafia->Jackel98->Voidedmafia->shos->Sonic Boom->

UN-VOTE

->Voidedmafia

Jackel98/istott:

BBMolla->shos | guille2015->ProHawk

DrippingGoofBall:

EddieFenix->pirate mollie->

UN-VOTE

->EddieFenix->Sonic Boom->UN-VOTE->EddieFenix->

UN-VOTE

Spoiler: Voting Chronology for D1

On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 05:21p,

Nazarene

Votes

pirate mollie

in post 54.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 05:22p,

Doyouthinkhesaurus

Votes

Nazarene

in post 55.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 05:58p,

Voidedmafia

votes

Nazarene

in post 59.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 07:57p,

Jackel98

Votes

BBMolla

in post 71.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 08:25p,

Bulbazak

votes

Nazarene

in post 72.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 12:46a,

shos

Votes

Nazarene

in post 83.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 06:44a,

ProHawk

Votes

shos

in post 99.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 07:05a,

EddieFenix

votes

Bulbazak

in post 100.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 01:37p,

Vodedmafia

votes

ProHawk

in post 108.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 03:43p,

DrippingGoofBall

Votes

EddieFenix

in post 115.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 05:10a,

Nazarene

Votes

shos

in post 120.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 01:21p,

Jackel98

Votes

shos

in post 130.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 03:06p,

Voidedmafia

votes

shos

in post 133.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 08:27p,

pirate mollie

Votes

Voidedmafia

in post 138.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 08:32p,

BBMolla

Votes

DrippingGoofBall

in post 139.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 04:31a,

Nazarene

Votes

Voidedmafia

in post 160.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 12:01p,

Bulbazak

unvotes, and votes

Voidedmafia

in post 169.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 02:13p,

Doyouthinkhesaurus

unvotes

Nazarene

and votes

ProHawk

in post 178.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 06:45p,

ika

Votes

Sonic Boom

in post 183.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 08:34p,

BBMolla

Unvotes, and Votes

ika

in post 188.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 09:33p,

ProHawk

Votes

pirate mollie

in post 190.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 09:34p,

pirate mollie

Votes

Jackel98

in post 192.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 09:53p,

Sonic Boom

Votes

Jackel98

in post 193.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 11:14p,

Bulbazak

unvotes, and votes

Sonic Boom

in post 201.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 11:16p,

Voidedmafia

votes

Jackel98

in post 202.
On Sun, Nov 11/09/14 @ 12:10p,

DrippingGoofBall

Votes

pirate mollie

in post 224.
On Sun, Nov 11/09/14 @ 07:22p,

pirate mollie

Votes

Voidedmafia

in post 238.
On Sun, Nov 11/09/14 @ 10:06p,

ProHawk

Votes

shos

in post 248.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 03:26a,

shos

Votes

Jackel98

in post 252.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 11:37a,

Sonic Boom

unvotes in post 267.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 03:23p,

shos

Votes

Bulbazak

in post 281.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 06:14p,

DrippingGoofBall

Unvotes in post 290.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 06:16p,

DrippingGoofBall

Votes

EddieFenix

in post 291.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 08:49p,

pirate mollie

Votes

shos

in post 297.
On Tue, Nov 11/11/14 @ 05:05a,

Sonic Boom

Votes

shos

in post 306.
On Wed, Nov 11/12/14 @ 03:41p,

guille2015

(BBMolla) votes

shos

in post 353.
On Wed, Nov 11/12/14 @ 04:56p,

Voidedmafia

votes

guille2015

in post 365.
On Thu, Nov 11/13/14 @ 04:48a,

shos

Votes

guille2015

in post 378.
On Thu, Nov 11/13/14 @ 04:29p,

Bulbazak

unvotes, and votes

ika

in post 407.
On Thu, Nov 11/13/14 @ 07:56p,

istott

Unvotes

shos

and Votes

guille2015

in post 413.
On Thu, Nov 11/13/14 @ 08:37p,

Sonic Boom

Votes

guille2015

in post 415.
On Thu, Nov 11/13/14 @ 10:45p,

Bulbazak

unvotes, and votes

Sonic Boom

in post 421.
On Fri, Nov 11/14/14 @ 07:14a,

guille2015

Unvotes

shos

in post 434.
On Fri, Nov 11/14/14 @ 07:30a,

guille2015

Votes

Sonic Boom

in post 435.
On Fri, Nov 11/14/14 @ 02:04p,

Vodedmafia

votes

Sonic Boom

in post 442.
On Fri, Nov 11/14/14 @ 02:53p,

pirate mollie

Votes

Sonic Boom

in post 443.
On Fri, Nov 11/14/14 @ 04:36p,

DrippingGoofBall

Votes

Sonic Boom

in post 445.
On Fri, Nov 11/14/14 @ 10:33p,

Bulbazak

unvotes, and votes

EddieFenix

in post 467.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 12:11a,

Nazarene

Votes

Sonic Boom

in post 472.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 05:38a,

shos

unvotes (

guille2015

) in post 482.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 08:58a,

DrippingGoofBall

Unvotes in post 492.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 09:24a,

EddieFenix

unvotes, and votes

Sonic Boom

in post 497.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 01:25p,

DrippingGoofBall

Votes

EddieFenix

in post 506.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 02:25p,

Doyouthinkhesaurus

Unvotes

ProHawk

and Votes

EddieFenix

in post 513.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 02:33p,

shos

Votes

guille2015

in post 514.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 05:33p,

guille2015

Unvotes

Sonic Boom

in post 515.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 05:49p,

guille2015

votes

ika

in post 518.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 07:07p,

ProHawk

Votes

Doyouthinkhesaurus

in post 520.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 11:08p,

Bulbazak

unvotes, and votes

ika

in post 530.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 01:15a,

shos

Votes

ProHawk

in post 533.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 03:53a,

istott

Votes

ProHawk

in post 543.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 06:37a,

EddieFenix

unvotes

Sonic Boom

in post 544.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 10:31a,

Voidedmafia

votes

ProHawk

in post 559.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 10:43a,

Bulbazak

unvotes, and votes

Doyouthinkhesaurus

in post 561.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 01:42p,

pirate mollie

Unvotes

Sonic Boom

in post 572.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 01:46p,

Voidedmafia

unvotes [prohawk] in post 574.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 01:47p,

pirate mollie

Votes

Voidedmafia

in post 575.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 03:13p,

Nazarene

Votes

Voidedmafia

in post 580.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 06:44p,

DrippingGoofBall

Unvotes in post 598.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 09:52p,

ika

Unvotes in post 603.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 10:22p,

Doyouthinkhesaurus/Mathdino

Unvotes

EddieFenix

and Votes

ProHawk

in post 610.
On Mon, Nov 11/17/14 @ 02:31p,

Voidedmafia

votes

ProHawk

in post 634.

<<< Forgot to mention this earlier. I haven't gotten around to the 'paperwork', so to speak, but Mathdino is playing without his hydra buddy, going solo. Thus, Doyouthinkhesaurus is replaced by him. All VCs made after his request will have this reflected as soon as I am able. >>>

[Bulbazak]

@Dino: If you think that my sole reason for voting you is because you are voting ProHawk, then yes, you should absolutely be questioning your townread of me and even start scumreading me.

@Everyone else: I never said I would switch to a policy lynch right this second. If we get really close to deadline, like 36-24 hours close, and my preferred wagon is not viable, then I will absolutely consider compromising. This should not be surprising at all.

<<< Uhh... *points to the deadline in large text*...yeah. >>>

[Mathdino]

I was under the impression it was because of the ProHawk thing along with the gutscumread you've stated you had on me multiple times. I think you've managed to convince yourself that my actions have scum motivation and this came from the original gutread and the fact that my wording sometimes sounds fake.
I also think your ProHawk townread sucks and if you weren't townreading him I'd be fine in your book.

That said, I don't see much scum motivation in barreling after me regardless of ProHawk's alignment; if he's scum, then you'd be instantly connected to him, and if he's town, well, premature backlash much and you'd be suspected for unnecessarily defending ProHawk.

Why do you want me to scumread you so bad?

[Mathdino]

Holy shit, didn't notice the deadline.

<<< What, do I need to make the text even larger?!? >>>

Based on our collective targets, it looks like this lynch is gonna be between ProHawk, Fenix, and Voided. Would be cool with lynching either of the first 2. Voided as a whole reads town to me at the moment.

[ika]

how has this game nearly gone on 2 weeks already?

<<< I know, right?!? It blindsided me, too! I guess what they say is true: when you have so much fun, time really does fly you by. >>>

shit well that means i have to kick it into gear and right now it looks like its hawk lynch

@hawk: your now a vengful, who do you venge shoot and why?
who is the scum on your wagon?
what do you think of the current voters on your wagon who are not a scumread? townreads?

others:
i dont see the scum in dino-slot
DBG i would do for policy but would much rather poilicy titus!sloth

what was the case on eddie and/or voided again? (link to post will suffice but i can look later if needed)

really the only other person i would have something really an idication of doing is mollie mostly b/c she has not talked to me yet and

[ProHawk]

Naz - I am not really a big meta player, I use it more for gut than anything. That said, off the top of my head I have one scum game and one town game. His town game was super hyper-active and interactive, his scum game was less-so. I don't have a super amount of time or info to delve into manipulation of meta or not, its just what it came across to me as. You also asked me about a Dino wagon, but I didn't see it? Unless you are referring to the only other person pushing Dino aside from me?

Ika - I would consider shooting people out of the list of those who were talking about counter-claims which I think were DBG, Dino, Mollie, and Guille. Think I already covered my wagon analysis in a previous post, but currently sit at Shos and Dino. If they aren't scum and there my wagon is only town/one scum (Dino?) then scum are worried about my being lynched backfiring? Not real sure why, unless its Bulba's case which most people seem to be not believing/discrediting?

Voided - Marketplace Mafia but since you don't remember it probably didn't phase you much.

[ProHawk]

Not Voting - 3 (EddieFenix, DrippingGoofBall, ika)

These people need to put a vote down somewhere ASAP so we can get some legitimate choices instead of bringing things out of the air like Dino suggesting Fenix is a legit candidate for being lynched with a total of zero votes.

[Voidedmafia]

Eddie's MIA, DGB's throwing a hissy fit, and ika's currently thinking.

Latter one is okay for now, former two need to do something stat.

Why aren't we lynching guille again?

[EddieFenix]

I'm MIA when I answered Naz on this very page, Voided?

[Bulbazak]

I was under the impression it was because of the ProHawk thing along with the gutscumread you've stated you had on me multiple times. I think you've managed to convince yourself that my actions have scum motivation and this came from the original gutread and the fact that my wording sometimes sounds fake.
I also think your ProHawk townread sucks and if you weren't townreading him I'd be fine in your book.

That's not how reads work. A gut read means that I noticed something off, although I can't for the life of me figure out what it is at the moment. My case is less the result of me looking for scumminess from you and more calling it out when it happened. I've been known to waffle on gut reads for a lot longer, and they don't always stay at the same level. This is just you trying to further discredit my read on you. And no, my ProHawk read still has nothing to do with why I'm scumreading you. I'd have had a problem with your IIoA no matter who you used it on. Quit trying to strawman my argument.

Why aren't we lynching guille again?

I felt the wagon was too easy at the time, although I wasn't opposed to it. I'm still not if you want to swing a wagon in that direction.

[Mathdino]

You discredit my case because it consists of 'buzzwords' (fluff, deflection, sheeping) yet you accuse me of IIoA when the majority of my content has been talking to and questioning people.

You've also shown no issues with me prior to the ProHawk case. So was that the only instance of IIoA?

[Bulbazak]

IIoA was in reference to your case, yes. There was no actual analysis to it. And saying that is not a discredit. It's a legitimate reason to find your case to be full of crap and to think you are scum.

[mastin2]

<<< Happy scumday, Bulbazak! >>>

I'd give you a VC, but nothing's changed, soooooooooooooooooooooo, have this instead.

Day One's deadline is Wednesday, November 19th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2014-11-19 16:15:00).

Be Warned: We're almost at the 36-hour mark!

(I sent a PM to literally everyone about the impending deadline, so there should be no excuses.)

[Sonic Boom]

2 weeks already?! I haven't even talked to Titus yet!

[

<<< I know! I can hardly believe it myself! Almost wish I didn't have to enforce that deadline, but I do. >>>

Still scum reading guile. Still voting gulle.

[Sonic Boom]

I'm just banking on my inspection tonight, but if my result is messed with or I die, it's YOUR fault

*points to everyone yet no one in particular *

[Sonic Boom]

i really dont know what to say about the prohawk case

like

i dont know what to say

You can say it's pretty good.

dino was doing PbPA. According to something i read somewhere by someone in some site, PbPA usually isn't good

yes, i did that on purpose

However I would also be interested to see

Can you do the same exercise you did with EddieFenix that you did with proHawk?

I am faster than bulbazak, btw

[ProHawk]

So let me get this straight...

I'm scum because.... no content.
I'm scum because.... I said Mollie had no content.
I'm scum because.... coasting.
I'm scum because.... terrible post.
I'm scum beacuse.... has done nothing to look town.

Yet, when that didn't work, try try harder.

I am scum because.... avoiding OMGUS
I am scum because.... reasoning sucks

Did I miss anything?

[ProHawk]

Remember when you said this?

I say 'un-cc'd cop' as a qualifier.

You might have forgotten you said this.

You also have no reasons that I'm scummy other than saying it's pretty reasonable to assume that there's probably a cop and that

Sonic's telling the truth if he's not CC'd.

THIS IS BLATANT FISHING WITHOUT DIRECTLY ASKING FOR THE COUNTER CLAIM. It was absolutely not a qualifier.