Mini 1624: Joss Whedon Mafia: The Musical (Game Over)

[Egg]

Page 6:
Something about the interaction about me feels weird. GreyIce votes me for using too many quotes. Really, just what? Riddleton seems too sure I am town. And then Hypo interupts what looks like a good attempt by Grey to scum hunt Riddleton. Probably a scum in here somewhere. Leaning Riddleton and/or Hypo. I should also mention that Hypo's posts still kind of look like nervousness regarding how they are being read.

Medea almost seems to be challenging Murder. Feels off.

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Riddleton and Hypo both look scummy in their interaction. But it doesn't read scum vs scum. I lean more towards Riddleton scum. I can see Hypo's Grey vote from either town or scum. Riddleton seems to be pushing Hypo for the sake of it.

I don't agree with the points against istott. That being said, I don't really have a read on him yet, personally. I buy his story about RL meta carrying over, but thatdoesn't make him town.

Oh God. Antihero, we're not gonna get along at all in this game. Tryhard isn't a scumtell. Lynchme is obvtown. Hypo wagon isn't bad. I disagree with you all over. At5 least we agree on Riddleton though. I hope I read later on that you are bussing him.

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Nothing useful except that Riddleton's Anatole vote sucks

Page 9:
Why would Anatole forgetting about an innocent child be a townslip. I don't even follow that logic. All it tells me is he didn't read the Mod post.

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I agree with GreyIce. Too much useless posting.

If I had to guess the scum team right now, Riddleton, Medea, Antihero.

Done for now. Maybe finish tomorrow before work if I have time to get to the library.

[istott]

I don't really have anything to say at the moment. I want to contribute, though. I've found I work well when given questions with specificity, so if people want to ask me anything, fire away.

[HypotheticalBassists]

Algorithm:
1. Read post.
2. If post is 3 or more paragraphs, continue. If not, cycle back to #1.
3. Question: istott, what do you think of this post? What do you agree/disagree with? What is your read on it?
4. Repeat.

Example: istott, what do you think of 475? What do you agree/disagree with? What is your read on it?

[GreyICE]

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Something about the interaction about me feels weird. GreyIce votes me for using too many quotes. Really, just what?

No this is not the reason.

Care to attempt to demonstrate you've read the thread?

[Bulbazak]

Spoiler: Did you find her?

Vote Count

Medea the Alien (0):
LynchMePls (1): Antihero
Antihero (0):
Anatole Kuragin (0):
GreyICE (0):
Egg (0):
Serrapaladin (0):
HypotheticalBassists (2): LynchMePls, Riddleton
Boonskiies (0):
Istott (0):
Murder of Crows (1): Anatole Kuragin
ArcAngel9 (3): Serrapaladin, HypotheticalBassists, Boonskiies
Riddleton (0):

Not Voting (6): Istott, Murder of Crows, Medea the Alien, ArcAngel9, GreyICE, Egg

It is day 1. With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends on Tuesday, November 25 at 1:15pm EST. Countdown: (expired on 2014-11-25 13:15:00).

Replacing LynchMePls.

[istott]

Red is something i disagree with. Blue is something I agree with. Intensity is relative to how strong I feel.

Page 6:

Something about the interaction about me feels weird

.

GreyIce votes me for using too many quotes. Really, just what?

Riddleton seems too sure I am town.

(*)

And then Hypo interupts what looks like a good attempt by Grey to scum hunt Riddleton.

Probably a scum in here somewhere.

Leaning

Riddleton

and

/

or

Hypo.

I should also mention that Hypo's posts still kind of look like nervousness regarding how they being read.

Medea almost seems to be challenging Murder. Feels off

.

Page 7:

Riddleton and Hypo both look scummy in their interaction.

But it doesn't read scum vs scum.

I lean more towards Riddleton scum.

I can see Hypo's Grey vote from either town or scum. Riddleton seems to be pushing Hypo for the sake of it.

I don't agree with the points against istott. That being said, I don't really have a read on him yet, personally.

I buy his story about RL meta carrying over,

but that doesn't make him town.

Oh God. Antihero, we're not gonna get along at all in this game.

Tryhard isn't a scumtell

.

Lynchme is obvtown.

Hypo wagon isn't bad.

I disagree with you all over. At5 least we agree on Riddleton though. I hope I read later on that you are bussing him.

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Nothing useful except that Riddleton's Anatole vote sucks

Page 9:

Why would Anatole forgetting about an innocent child be a townslip. I don't even follow that logic. All it tells me is he didn't read the Mod post.

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I agree with GreyIce. Too much useless posting.

If I had to guess the scum team right now,

Riddleton

,

Medea

,

Antihero.

Done for now. Maybe finish tomorrow before work if I have time to get to the library.

*: Riddleton is often too easily sure of town. I dont think this is a suspicious point for riddleton, but after looking at his posts in these pages, I believe he is scum.
I dont understand the reasoning behind a few of egg's points. (The two last sentences about page 6, for example), but I agree with egg for the most part. Antihero is not someone i see as scummy, as he is acting pretty similar to what I've seen of him before in other games. I havent really seen enough of medea to feel strongly about them.

[Antihero]

so many people

begging for my vote

sry ffery, it's still not you

VOTE: egg

[Riddleton]

@mod, sorry for the inconvenience, but please replace me. I can't get back into this game

[Bulbazak]

Looking for a replacement for Riddleton.

[Murder of Crows]

ffery here and still being a useless sack of shit.

Serra, you want to talk?

[serrapaladin]

I do, but I'm somewhat busy until Friday. What do you think of recent replacement requests?

Do you think scum would be more likely to antagonize or appease me?

[Anatole Kuragin]

appease no doubt

[Murder of Crows]

I do, but I'm somewhat busy until Friday. What do you think of recent replacement requests?

riddleton request is null to me, but I am townreading him for other reasons. LMP hasn't done anything that makes me think he's town. I want to call it null as well but I'll check some prior games to see if there's any correlations.

Do you think scum would be more likely to antagonize or appease me?

My generic scum model says appease. That would vary based on a player's overall play style/abstraction levels, etc.

Do you feel like you're getting reads based on how people are reacting to you? being conftown/near-conftown tends to muddy my reads because part of how I form reads is by seeing how players form reads on me.

[ArcAngel9]

I want to preface this by saying that I hope that my lawyer-ness doesn't piss off everyone too much, but I'm pretty confused with how AA9's handling this, and I want this line of questioning to be answered. So along with my policy lynch question in 428 (which I will call Question #1), here are four more questions:

2. In 364, you say that GreyICE's interactions with Riddleton implicate that he is scum, presumably because he is acting abusively towards a player you perceive to be town. Is this interpretation correct, or can you elaborate more?

3. In 393, you say that GreyICE's last three posts (for reference, 377, 382, and 388, all referring to Istott's 372) make him appear less scummy. I have my own reasons for why I believe GreyICE isn't scum, but from your perspective, how

exactly

do these posts make him seem town?

4. You seemed very quick to vote Boonskiies in 287 and GreyICE in 368; it seems like you aren't especially cautious or sitfencey in your votes. That said, what is the harm in keeping a vote on a player you think is scummy and has no current wagon?

5. Can you explain what you mean in 368 in

excruciating

detail? In particular, I'm interested to see how this is not a blatant OMGUS vote, as you say it isn't in 373.

Other than that, I'm not sure how LMP is scummy, Dino. At some point I'd like to see someone's reasoning for that, but obviously AA9 is a more pressing issue. But so far I'm reading town pretty strongly on Riddleton, GreyICE, and Istott (though that one's mostly a gutread).

-Duck

Duck, Here are my answers for all your 5 points...

1. About the whole Policy Lynch point, there are things that you're obviously missing out or maybe not looking them at the way i am looking at.
Refer to the post #383. In this post, Cabd said some horrible things, He said I was being anti-town, accused me for playing "Anti-wincon". (which has no proofs for). And the worse part was that he brought my ban into the game which is totally unrelated topic for this game. So, I happen to have disagreements with Serra but it doesn't mean he has rights to compare my behaviour from this game relate with my behaviour from an arugument i had in a post game that got me a 2 weeks temp ban. And how is that even related in this game discussion? Serra thinks i am scum because I voted Boon for lurking which wasn't the true reason but Serra don't believe it anyway. this whole denial attitude from serra, Cabd, & GreyICE seems more like a personal attack than real reason to call me scum. (Refer to GreyICE Post #367 & Serra post #369). How do i suppose to react when I see people jump over and accuse for things that I didn't do and they are not open to change their mind because they want to protect their stupid ego so that they can feel better about themselves. Yes, I am angry with this whole thing.. Makes me fee so bad, makes me feel like I have been a lynch bait.

2. You read that bit differently, I thought GreyICE was scum not just because he was fighting with Riddleton but also his reasons to vote Egg. He blamed egg that he was being active after V/LA but GreyICE himself done the same. I didn't find his reasons to vote EGG or Riddleton seems town. He was scum to me.. (Although I had a second thought in my mind that GreICE reaction over riddeleton activey was proabably geinune considering how fast the game was movign due to too many posts)

3. Post #382 , This was the first post of GreyICE actually made lot of sense to me.. Perhaps that was the first best of his in this game. I thought his reaction over Serra and his point of view towards the game matches the scond thought i had about GreyICE, so here I was almost reconsidering that I was probably overthinking about this guy. But I am still not sure. If i completely unread him as scum but after that post.. I wanted to step back and see more from him. And my thoughts become stronger after post #388 especially his point of view about wagons. And He was right about Istott reads. they have so much but very less content had almost reated everyone between 4-6.


4. After the series of attacks from Serra & Cadb. I decide to step back and try to be more focused into game prior voting. So I didn't try to vote again soon without been quite sure about it. I needed time to re-think about this game. there was a moment i even wanted to ask mod if he can replace me. I understood that replacing myself wouldn't change how peope think about me, and i rather have to face people Cadb again so i decided to continue and play at my best.


5. My vote on Grey for that time was based on my opinion about him. the same reason i stated above. His reason over voting egg or his fight with riddleton but its not longer my case.

Being said that, I am still bit unsure If completely think GreyICE is scum. And moreover, i feel there are others in this game that i need to shift my focus on.

[istott]

Red is something i disagree with. Blue is something I agree with. Intensity is relative to how strong I feel.

Page 6:

Something about the interaction about me feels weird

.

GreyIce votes me for using too many quotes. Really, just what?

Riddleton seems too sure I am town.

(*)

And then Hypo interupts what looks like a good attempt by Grey to scum hunt Riddleton.

Probably a scum in here somewhere.

Leaning

Riddleton

and

/

or

Hypo.

I should also mention that Hypo's posts still kind of look like nervousness regarding how they being read.

Medea almost seems to be challenging Murder. Feels off

.

Page 7:

Riddleton and Hypo both look scummy in their interaction.

But it doesn't read scum vs scum.

I lean more towards Riddleton scum.

I can see Hypo's Grey vote from either town or scum. Riddleton seems to be pushing Hypo for the sake of it.

I don't agree with the points against istott. That being said, I don't really have a read on him yet, personally.

I buy his story about RL meta carrying over,

but that doesn't make him town.

Oh God. Antihero, we're not gonna get along at all in this game.

Tryhard isn't a scumtell

.

Lynchme is obvtown.

Hypo wagon isn't bad.

I disagree with you all over. At5 least we agree on Riddleton though. I hope I read later on that you are bussing him.

Page 8:

Nothing useful except that Riddleton's Anatole vote sucks

Page 9:

Why would Anatole forgetting about an innocent child be a townslip. I don't even follow that logic. All it tells me is he didn't read the Mod post.

Page 10/11:

I agree with GreyIce. Too much useless posting.

If I had to guess the scum team right now,

Riddleton

,

Medea

,

Antihero.

Done for now. Maybe finish tomorrow before work if I have time to get to the library.

*: Riddleton is often too easily sure of town. I dont think this is a suspicious point for riddleton, but after looking at his posts in these pages, I believe he is scum.
I dont understand the reasoning behind a few of egg's points. (The two last sentences about page 6, for example), but I agree with egg for the most part. Antihero is not someone i see as scummy, as he is acting pretty similar to what I've seen of him before in other games. I havent really seen enough of medea to feel strongly about them.

I made an error here. That bolder word should be blue. At this moment, I believe my vote should be on VOTE: riddleton. Sorry for the mixup.

[istott]

Bulbazak: I will be leaving to go to another state for my sister's engagement party. I will be leaving at around 6pm GMT on Friday, and will get back at around 6am GMT on Monday. Local time, i'm leaving at 7am, so I probably wont have time to post before I wake up, so consider me VLA from 11am GMT on Friday to 6 am GMT on Monday.

[Egg]

Grey, that's the reason you gave. And no I haven't read the thread. Had a baby today.

[istott]

OH MY GOD CONGRATULATIONS.
If its a girl, can you name her Anne?
(Its a reference to arrested development)

[Egg]

Nope, boy.

[istott]

Thats awesome XD

[istott]

For the moment, I'm willing to answer any question people have (so long as I can answer quickly), so fire away!

[GreyICE]

Can you read AA9's last post for me and break down all the things that make sense? I got a headache just looking at it.

[istott]

What do you mean by "make sense"? Do you mean gramatically? What I agree with?

[serrapaladin]

I would say in general

[GreyICE]

What do you mean by "make sense"? Do you mean gramatically? What I agree with?

Grammar we'll probably just have to give up on. That you agree with isn't necessary. Just everything in it that resembles a logical and coherent thought.