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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:19 pm

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Goblin wrote:He has 15 posts. I'm not going to give scum an easy policy lynch. I'm not asking anything unreasonable.
Then again, you're not exactly staying consisten on your votes, so why should I care anyways?
On the other hand, I'm interested in MC's reads, because they will help me with my own.

Could murder of the crows be an easy target right now? Maybe, I'm not sure.

In fact you asking for reads and forgetting I just gave them looks an awful lot like bullshit.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:21 pm

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Fair enough. Forgive me for having a short memory.
Bassists: I mostly dislike these guys posts which tints my lens a little bit. Im wary of hydras who bash each other after having Katsuki do it to mastin in Anything Goes and them turning out to be scum. Although that was more reads specifically and less other things I suppose. I know I got upset at mastin in our hydra since she kind of committed suicide, even if it was blazingly town the whole time. ANYWAYS, I understand why grey seems to be writing these guys off as town, but I'm not really ready to do that. Post 100 is a great example of a post that Im sure I could divine their alignment from if I had a gram of weed, a massage, and some dedicated time to do nothing but reread it on end. But I also just hate the opinions present in the post (chiefly that an RVS vote is a scandal and must be undone) so yeh. The interactions with egg here seem ~off~ regardless from one or both sides. I don't like this I guess more than anything. I see a lot of questions flying out of these guys and nothing that looks like an internal thought process that looks townish. Mostly just assertions and categorizing events in the thread. The need of whichever head it was to talk about their document felt weird to me too.


Anything to add to this, because strangely enough, I don't disagree.
You're getting "Weird" thoughts while I'm getting "Scum" thoughts.
This argument was a lot more fleshed out than the one on eggs.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:22 pm

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IDK, as much as it pains me to accuse someone else of being scum after placing my vote, murder of the crows has a slight point here.
Just hesitant of why her vote is on egg and not Bassist.
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:40 pm

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Because I'm not a size queen. When it comes to cases at least. I have a lot to say about bassists because I'm still trying to talk out (to myself and\or others) if I actually think they are scum or just hilariously antimony players with comedic reads.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:42 pm

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Antitown** phone posting.

Also there isn't much to say about egg. He's posted a passable amount of content. None of it gives me town feels. Ffery also doesn't get town ffeels from him. Some people will say that doesn't make someone scummy but imo it's a damn good start.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:42 pm

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Last typo not intended to be a pun lol.
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:43 pm

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Can you just update us on your read on them again before the end of the game day?
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:49 pm

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I think we both agree that boonskies is town. I'm offset by your motivation for town reading him.
Keep in mind, I'm scum reading you, so when I hear you defending boonskies, who I think is an easy mislynch, I wonder what your intentions would be.
I have no interest in removing my vote, but I agree with most of what you're saying, even if there are bad vibes muddled in.

Just a little more confused than I would like to be. Nothing else is clicking besides you and fferry being scum, but now I'm starting to wonder about Bassist.
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:54 pm

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On Bassists? Sure, I can get some Whiskey and whatnot together and read their ISO. I'll try to cut out most of my waffling (Im almost as bad as Tammy) and get to the point. I was hoping to get to that tonight, but my roommate just reminded me that midnight is the release of super smash bros 4, so we will be getting alcohol and then camping out in front of gamestop for a couple hours.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:59 pm

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Mikuru replaces ArcAngel9. Also, since there were so many replacements, I'm giving you a 3 day time extension. Enjoy!
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:32 pm

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Hello! I will be reading up shortly.

Any important events you want me to comment on, or just general ideas?
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:22 am

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Goblin wrote:Then again, you're not exactly staying consisten on your votes, so why should I care anyways?


moving votes is grounds for discrediting me?

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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:19 am

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still reading through this thread [like liquor]
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:20 am

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Antihero wrote:yonce = hoopla alt?


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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:23 am

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HI HOOPLA! :]
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:25 am

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Goblin wrote:He has 15 posts. I'm not going to give scum an easy policy lynch. I'm not asking anything unreasonable.

exactly he has 15 posts. no one should need to spoon feed you a case. if you think the wagon is just policy (it is) and have a problem with it, call people on it

the whole dancing around asking for a case when you know good and fucking well what the case is nothing more than asking questions to look busy
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:31 am

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*raises hand* I have a problem with policy wagons!
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:32 am

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Goblin wrote:All over the place with his vote and making a lot of noise.
Not saying that scum meta is non-existent. Just rare.


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i will call bullshit on your characterization with me with being "all over the place", sir
my vote's only been on two people today
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:33 am

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Oh, that's a good one.

Enough active lurking on this page from me now, back to reading.
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:28 am

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t's start at the top.

The bravado from Medea in post is really interesting. I wouldn't believe that scum would start out a game daring others to realize he's town, impatiently. Of course, it could just be scum challenging them but I don't get that feeling from so early in the game. Fast forward a few posts, I don't like the reasoning LynchMePls behind post . It puts up a charade of trying to end rvs, a charade of trying to do things without accomplishing anything. Returning the challenge in post gives me a feeling that if one of them is scum the other is town (not necessarily saying that one IS scum just that they both are not scum together).

I keep looking at post by LynchMePleasein comparison to what anti has at this point in time and do not see anything that looks like squirming. Although, I'm not sure scum would blatantly change the events that occured in the thread. I do like Murder in post , they noted this similar suspicion about Antihero's "flailing." I did not originally agree with the suspicion of Antihero should LynchMePls flip scum, but on further evaluation I can make out the reasoning behind it. I could see this early interaction as distancing from each other, especially noting that both are scum reading each other. I did not like the vote in post as it feels weak and as if it's trying to avoid the main targets of the thread thus far without taking a position on them. I do not like LynchMePls in post , namely the defense of HypotheticalBassists. I can see how Egg might be confused about Murder and Medea's openings in post , the open bravado and challenge and replying to said challenge did also come to mind as scum theatre. I do not like the naked vote from Riddleton in post . Granted, I did not find fault with the posts the declared themselves as RVS posts, but the naked vote raises an eyebrow.

I do not like how Riddleton, in post tries to place the blame of him not explaining a vote onto others, it looks like he is trying to absolve himself of all blame or of all questioning with regard to the vote. I do not like the explanation of the vote from Riddleton in post as he implies that he is not voting Murder because he thinks they are scum, but voting Murder to get competing wagons going. Why Murder? Why not join the votes on Antihero? I do not like the stance regarding LynchMePls, expressed by Riddleton in post but it seems my judgement is clouded by that being such a terrible reason to townread anyone. I do not like HypotheticalBassists' post as it feels like he is trying to place blame on his other head for getting them voted. Trying to play up some hydra dissonance.

They again highlight this dissonance in post which makes me suspicious this will be a common trend any time one of them does something suspicious. LynchMePlease in post makes me think that if one of them is scum the other is not, it almost feels like a "thanks for townreading me bud" townread. I like Egg's post as it also seems to be wary of the dissonance. I don't see what Murder is referring to be "tryhard" in post . After this page I find Riddleton's posting style extremely frustrating, namely the spamposting with little to no content in a fair amount of the posts. Yes, there is some content, but I don't like most of the posts as they feel like filler. It's not necessarily scummy, but it could be clouding my opinion of the slot.

The first post I have liked from Riddleton is as I agree about scum being more on the defensive purle based on their alignment. Istott feels almost like a spectator this game. I don't think this is necessarily alignment indicative, but I hope to see
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resembling stances and content from him soon. I continue to like Egg's posting such as as it is easy to understand where his stances are originating from. It could be argued that maybe they are just shallow stances by scum but I do not get that feeling from his posts. I do not like the outright defensiveness of post by istott, because generally town will admit they're scummy but scum might not. Granted, this could just be a newbie tell I'm mistaking to apply to experienced players. I do not like by Murder, but for the life of me I can't put my finger on what it is. I do however, like Murder's challenge in post as I don't see why scum would challenge confirmed town.

My reads at this point in time are as follows, and are in no particular order. Anyone not listed is null.

Suspicious-
HypotheticalBassists- Their posts are plagued with hydra dissonance and apologizing for past transgressions and it feels as though they are more worried about keeping themselves alive than finding scum.
Riddleton- I feel like his posts are littered with filler. I did not understand the vote on Murder nor did I like his justification. I did like from him but that could easily be echoing a common sentiment.
LynchMePls- I did not like his entrance nor did I like his stance regarding Antihero and him trying to change around what has actually happened in the game.

Decent standing so far-
Egg- I can understand where his positions are coming from and also agree with what he's been saying with regard to HypotheticalBassists.
serrapaladin- He is confirmed town.
Medea- I quite enjoyed the bravado in the entrance. They are only slightly a townread, because there really has not been that much from them at this point in time.
Murder- I was satisfied the response to the challenge from Medea, and the questioning line with Riddleton.

Page 6 now.

I see the first post of actual "hunting" from Hypotheticalbassists (post but I do not understand the reasonings he does give. One thing I thought was town was GreyICE's vote on Egg in post as Egg was previously left alone by everyone. I do not agree with the vote, however that's a really stick out vote that I don't find scum likely to make. Post from HypotheticalBassists as it feels like he's trying to force himself in as the middle man, and that comes off as sleazy, nor do I find his "I found these posts town" satisfying in any regard. The paranoia in post reads as town, the wifom with regard to a read instead of being used to push a lynch. I like Greyice refusing to respond to HypotheticalBassists and I don't like the reaction weak pressure vote from them. I liked post by Medea although I wished they commented on what they think of Murder's reaction to it. I do like the challenge from Murder in post .

Again I like Riddleton's post . I'm thinking of bumping him back into null. I found the openness and mindset of post town, as it makes it easier to understand that initial defense post. I understand some of the sentiments behind post by LynchMePls, but I think the vote is a bandwagon vote. I don't really understand what it is about the reads chart that Antihero doesn't like in post and it looks almost like filler to me. I don't get what it is about the HypotheticalBassists wagon it is Antihero doesn't like in post nor do I understand anything he is posting on this page. I don't get Anatole's post but I am leaning more to it being just me disagreeing with it than anything else.

I agree with the sentiment expressed by Murder in post as I think the quoted post is just doused in wine. I agree with Riddleton in post but he's just echoing without really providing anything new to the discussion. I want an explanation from Riddleton in post , but I find him saying "You all should look more town" as cheeky scum. I thought the discussion for most of this page was boring and didn't really get us anywhere.

I find Anatole's posts regarding the townslip (incorrectly) to sound too much like he is trying to play blind and make them believe it is a townslip. I notice that Riddleton's explanation of what made him think the townslip (post ) were all posts that occured after he promised to justify his suspicions which is strange considering he had to have some reason to question it in the first place. I don't really like the posturing between Anatole and Riddleton. I see GreyICE is disagreeing with a lot of my reads which is weird. I want to talk to him about some of these later. And again in post is someone saying they like them.

I find myself agreeing with a lot of the sentiments Antihero brings forth on page 10. GreyICE's flip out is interesting, I wish I had other games to compare it to because I'm not sure if it's necessarily alignment indicative. I did rather enjoy the cheek from Murder, however.

Suspicious-
Riddleton- Not a ton of reasonings in his posts, weird stances (see: the Anatole faked the townslip and then justifies it with reasons that were after the initial event)
Anatole- I think it looks like he was trying to fake a townslip.
LynchMePlease- There hasn't been anything redeeming since my last list.
Antihero- Prior to page 10 he had next to nothing in terms of reasoning, now he's walking around being condescending. Granted, I agree with the stances but at the same time I feel like it's feigned indignance.
HypotheticalBassists- Nothing really new compared to last, besides a really weak vote on GreyICE that looks like looking busy.

Alright so far-
Serrapaladin- ...
Murder- I like the cheek coming from them, as well as the paranoia regarding Medea.
Medea- I liked the response to Murder's paranoia.

This is where I'm at now, I've been working on this most of the afternoon but have things to attend to. There is a chance I could be back later tonight.

I think I'm most feeling a vote on-

VOTE: hypotheticalbassists
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:26 am

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who am i being condescending to?
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:58 am

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So ya, that AA9 slot is looking really town right about now.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:58 am

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what exactly makes you think I was trying to fake the "townslip" which I even said myself shouldn't be considered a townslip
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:09 am

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Anatole Kuragin wrote:what exactly makes you think I was trying to fake the "townslip" which I even said myself shouldn't be considered a townslip

This is one of those opinions that people often have that isn't likely to be true, but eh. Best to not worry about it.
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:10 am

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And I mean fucking obviously if she thinks you are scum, then she thinks you arelying about thinking its a townslip. Wow, that was so hard to figure out.
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