Mini 1626: Duck Tales Mafia (Game Over)

[DOMO]

yoink

[Pine]

Farside, my reads are pretty weak right now. I don't really like the cheap shots and shitty reasoning coming from DOMO or KCC, but that amounts to a weak gut scum sense. Everyone else is pretty null. Sometimes you get strong reads out of the gate, other times you've gotta dick around a bit. It's one of those

[KittyCupCake]

She's not even trying to look town.

True. -I'm not

trying

to look anything. I'm just looking for bad guys and answering any questions that come my way.

I'm not reading Bulb as likely town? I said I don't think he's said anything alignment-indicative even though what he says looks town. That's a fancily-worded null, which is exactly what he was on the list.

Thank you, I was misreading the tone of the word "look" in that sentence. This all makes sense.

The start of this was tw comment about Martin.
He anwsers the main crux of kcc' issue, but why the snarky response is scummy is very unclear.

I never said it was scummy. I've played with plenty of players who do that as town. -It

is

, however, a tool that scum

can

use to avoid directly answering questions and just glide through the game. So, putting an end to that sort of behavior early (or at the very least working out a system where I can communicate with them effectively around their attitude) is a high priority to me.

As things continue she looks to be picking a fight rather then trying to understand and it comes across as a dislike of his playstyle, which is not scummy at all.

Yes, I have a bit of dislike for that type of playstyle; it's disruptive to my scum hunting. But, while I was a bit confrontational at first, if you don't think I worked my way back around to trying to reach an understanding with TW, then you are beyond where I can help you.

The vote puts tw at, I think, l-2.
It just reads to me as a reason to join the wagon on tw after everything is said and done.

It was L-3. I waited for a vote count to be sure. -I wouldn't have voted him to L-2 there because my vote wasn't intending to see him lynched, it was meant to inspire a response and show that I was serious.

BTW, I'm actually leaning fairly town on TW at this moment, but the vote isn't moving until he gives me a serious answer as to why he jumped in for mastin back there. -Do you see how mastin gave me a nice, direct answer? That's all I ask. I don't need my scum hunting to be met with an attitude.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: kitty

R~

[ArcAngel9]

Phidragon failed to respond his prods. He is now force replaced. I have started looking for his replacement.

[Romitelli]

And you'll be waiting for a while, since I don't feel like explaining it right now. It's just really, really, really obvious. Even a blind old person could see it.

Like, I have doubts on basically every read of mine (yes, to some extent even on DOMO), except my read on you.
I rarely get this confident on a read, but in this case I just so happen to know it's right. Hard to explain.

If you're so confident that I'm scum, why not state your case against me? I don't understand why you're hesitant to do so.

It's too convenient to simply say that you "dont' feel like explaining it" at the moment.

Still waiting [2].

[DOMO]

pine, why are my attacks cheap and shitty, while mastin gets a pass for her attacks on rom with literally no basis?

[KittyCupCake]

pine, why are my attacks cheap and shitty, while mastin gets a pass for her attacks on rom with literally no basis?

For the record,

I

agree with mastin on rom, though, I have no issues with you either, Domo.

BTW, can we avoid naked voting as much as possible? It makes wagon analysis really, really annoying later.

[Total Wreck]

Difficult IS my thought process. As far as what I care about, it's the puzzle.

Who is scum? Who will they kill? Why? Is there an SK, or is it a vig? Why would town do "x"? Why wouldn't scum do "y"?

What others think of

me

doesn't matter to me. I'm more concerned with what I think of others.

Thank you, that's great. I can appreciate and understand that. But, do you think you could consider that you aren't the only person playing this game? -I'm trying to work out the puzzle as well, but you're effectively hiding some of the pieces from me.

You

may not actually care about being voted, but displaying that attitude is bad for

my

game experience and hinders

my

ability to solve the puzzle. So, if you could take that into consideration, I would really appreciate it.

Anyway, I'll give you a little puzzle to work out. Let's say, hypothetically, one player asked another player a question, without saying anything regarding their alignment. Then, a third player proclaims the second player town. -Why might town do that?

Fair enough.

[Total Wreck]

mastin

is

town, though.

[DOMO]

Is there a meta case on rom that I'm unaware of? Because all I see are a few casual posts and not much else. I have no idea how people have a scumread on him unless casual posting this early is a killer scum tell for him.

For the record, I don't even care if mastin is right about rom, in fact that would probably be more suspicious.

TW, why is mastin town?

[KittyCupCake]

Fair enough.

Okay then.
UNVOTE: Total Wreck
VOTE: Romitelli

Because Rom, despite several posts, hasn't done a single thing that even starts to resemble scum hunting.

mastin

is

town, though.

I'm leaning towards agreeing with you here. Though, I'm not nearly as confident as you seem to be yet.

[DOMO]

Because Rom, despite several posts, hasn't done a single thing that even starts to resemble scum hunting.

This is reasonable. But does it not alarm you that mastin is scumreading rom based entirely off his rvs vote on me?

[DOMO]

ok to those who know mastin's game better than I do...

Does she have a tendancy to push scumreads on extremely thin grounds when town? How about as scum? Does she have a tendancy to bus buddies? I'm too lazy to go through her old games, metadiving is boring.

[Doubleslap]

mastin i have absolutely no idea why you think we're town

but i'll take it

Should you not be concerned when randomly towned?

mastin not convincing me.

it's a Thing she Does

[Doubleslap]

Doubleslap: same question to you that I asked pine.

lower your expectations this week, check my v/la

[Doubleslap]

well more like marquis being slightly less active for a few days but less active enough to prevent the usual intensive reading with occasional reads given depending on mood

[Bulbazak]

VOTE: kittycupcake

She's not even trying to look town.

ok to those who know mastin's game better than I do...

Does she have a tendancy to push scumreads on extremely thin grounds when town? How about as scum? Does she have a tendancy to bus buddies? I'm too lazy to go through her old games, metadiving is boring.

Mastin generally doesn't like to bus as scum. However, it should be noted that she is very aware of her own meta and will bend it as necessary. She's also adept at reading other players as scum, a skill that she uses to manipulate the town to great effect (example: Left 4 Dead Mafia). Lately she has been starting games with giving a bunch of reads without explaining them, usually with most of the players having not posted yet. However, I would also expect her to be aware enough to do this as scum, too, and her reads in this game just feel very fake.

[Romitelli]

For the record, I agree with mastin on rom, though, I have no issues with you either, Domo.

You're agreeing that I'm obvious scum based on my RVS posts?

Because Rom, despite several posts, hasn't done a single thing that even starts to resemble scum hunting.

I agree that this has been a fairly slow start for me.

This is my first game out of newbie queue, and I'm still getting acquainted with its format and size.

[Total Wreck]

Leaning Bulbazak scum.

He has much incentive to indict mastin because she is a big threat to scum..

[Doubleslap]

are you kidding me

[Doubleslap]

Leaning Bulbazak scum.

He has much incentive to indict mastin because she is a big threat to scum..

i really don't understand how you consider this valid scumhunting

it's founded on hypotheticals that haven't even been proved to be likely yet

[Total Wreck]

Leaning Bulbazak scum.

He has much incentive to indict mastin because she is a big threat to scum..

i really don't understand how you consider this valid scumhunting

it's founded on hypotheticals that haven't even been proved to be likely yet

That's fine, I'm seldom understood until things progress, anyway.

[Bulbazak]

Leaning Bulbazak scum.

He has much incentive to indict mastin because she is a big threat to scum..

Actually, I normally try to get Mastin to townread me as scum, but I'm sure your theory is valid as well and wouldn't feature any backlash whatsoever.

[Doubleslap]

you'll never get away with this!!

VOTE: total wreck