Mini 1622: (Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia [-Over-]

[ProHawk]

You won't auto-lynch me. Its a role that shouldn't be outed and that is all I am going to say. Stop fishing. Run me up to L-1 if you think I am scum and Dino-scum will intent to hammer me and I will claim and the world can cry. The end.

[ProHawk]

Why am I scum Dino? Because I won't claim?

Please outline your case.

[mastin2]

Using my desktop for the moment, so the fancy VC will have to wait a bit. You'll be getting it today, though.
ProHawk - 1 (DrippingGoofBall)
Nazarene - 1 (guille2015)
EddieFenix - 1 (Nazarene)
guille2015 - 1 (EddieFenix)
pirate mollie - 1 (ProHawk)

Not Voting - 4 (ika, eyestott, Mathdino, pirate mollie)

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

<<< I realize there is likely confusion as to how I handle answering questions. Though my system is (short of moderator oversight) internally consistent, upon attempting to think up a way to explain it, I realized how convoluted the explanation sounds. I am currently working out a way to streamline my explanation, as I feel that my process for handling questions is fine once it is understood. >>>

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: prohawk

[ProHawk]

That VC is quite comical... lol

[eyestott]

Not quite any more. I was slightly tempted to vote another 0-vote person to make it even more comical, but decided against it.

[ProHawk]

Ya, dang Mollie had to ruin it.

[mastin2]

Oh, believe me, it did not go unnoticed.

[Mathdino]

Why am I scum Dino? Because I won't claim?

Please outline your case.

You want me to make another case after the first one's immense popularity?

1. Before I cased it and people caught on, never have you ever produced any original content this game. I mean hell, DGB produces more substance than you do.
2. You vote me as soon as I stop voting you for bullshit reasons that Sonic later tried to state as objectively true.
3. Your first post of content (a case on my use of 'un-cc'd') was a bullshit argument about semantics to try to lynch the person with most suspicion on you. This argument is continued here which is sensationalistic and literally logically fallacious.
4. Your entire interaction with mollie is weird as hell, I can expand on this if anyone likes but this is one of my lesser points.
5. Your entire D2 play (before you said thanksgiving was giving you issues, which is cool) consisted of voting me, interacting with Sonic, and a couple questions to istott.
6. Your D3 start was so goddamn opportunistic and allowed you to coast on the fact that I said votes should be between me and Naz while once again contributing jackshit when you weren't in any danger of being lynched for it.
7. Your atrocious statement that massclaim is anti town at this stage in the game. Which you back up with a statement that, lo and behold, uses balance to make an argument (the idea that fakeclaims must be airtight).
8. A point simply because I can, but 1443 is absolute balls and is basically putting yourself on the same pedestal as the NK'd guy.
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999. Nazarene has a guilty on you.
1000. You won't claim.

Your not claiming is the last reason you're scum.

[Mathdino]

ProHawk - 1 (DrippingGoofBall)
Nazarene - 1 (guille2015)
EddieFenix - 1 (Nazarene)
guille2015 - 1 (EddieFenix)
pirate mollie - 1 (ProHawk)

Not Voting - 4 (ika, eyestott, Mathdino, pirate mollie)

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

In all seriousness, this votecount sucks (NOT YOU MASTIN).

<<< You nearly gave me a heart attack there, Dino. >>>

The issue of guille and Fenix is one that can be worked out tonight via night action. As such people should not be voting them.

Nazarene

and

Fenix

should make a case or change their vote.

mollie is a terrible vote, there's no reason to think she's a reasonable lynch candidate today, and ProHawk's made no effort to push her.

ProHawk

should make a case or change his vote.

Meanwhile, ika and eyestott aren't doing much. ika almost voted ProHawk back there but then didn't. And eyestott's had 0 thoughts on the game outside balance.

ika

should vote so we can move the day forward.

eyestott

should do something. While the miller stuff is nice and probably proves you even more town, it's still not helpful. Please give reads and your current thoughts on the situation. Personally I'd like to force a claim out of ProHawk and if Nazarene doesn't give the go-ahead on him we lynch, but seriously, come to some sort of conclusion.

DGB and guille are cool.

[eyestott]

I'm up for a mass roleclaim, but it has to be done RIGHT. We cant massclaim effectively if people have time to cater their claims to previous claims.
If everyone claims in the same 5 minute window, that could work.

[Mathdino]

Not gonna happen, not feasible at all. No one's going to claim until ProHawk does.

Do you have any reads?

[eyestott]

Not gonna happen, not feasible at all. No one's going to claim until ProHawk does.

Do you have any reads?

Not gonna happen, Prohawks not gonna claim.
Interns of reads, I do have them, but I'm pretty busy at the moment.

[Mathdino]

Great, so if he doesn't claim and no one has any other content to produce, we can go ahead and lynch him. The entire game is waiting on working out wtf happened last night and in lieu of that I say we lynch
A. the scummiest person (IMO) and
B. the guy holding the damn game up.

Unless you've got any better ideas (massclaim before ProHawk claims isn't a good one, it's not that hard to come up with a quick fakeclaim), then this game is gonna be at a standstill for a loooong time. Majority of the game is voteparking on someone that won't get lynched with the current level of effort they're putting into it or just not voting.

[ProHawk]

Hey morons, fake claims have already been made and probably changed pre game if they weren't satisfied with given fake claim. I will reiterate, Mastin isn't an idiot.

[guille2015]

Technically, only one confirmed fake claim. But I agree that scum could easily produce a fake claim.

Prohawk: Do you think Nazarene is Scum? If you had an ambiguous result on someone dependent on their claim, would you request them to claim?

[pirate mollie]

I think prohawk is scum cos he is trying to use bullshit made up meta against me,usi dumb fear tactics at inappropriate times and isn't even pretending to scumhunt outside of me. he i doing the typical "I am only going to fous on this 1 person at the exclusion of every1 else so I don't drop any unintentional associative tells" like this is scum 101.

[pirate mollie]

he is also sidelining his votes so he can sit back and take potshots at town. <----- scummeh

[ProHawk]

I'm at the point where I am almost glad to help scum win because if mollie and Dino are town, they deserve to lose.

[eyestott]

Woah woah woah. Just glanced and saw that. You know who the last person to say "I hope you all lose" was?
Sonic Boom.

[ProHawk]

You're a genius. The scum-team is imploding.

[ProHawk]

Easy-Mode amirite?

[eyestott]

Don't play against your wincon, Prohawk. If you get lynched, your role will be revealed, but you wont be able to use it. If you reveal, you may have released anti-town info that you didn't need to, but you'll be less likely to be lynched. What's more beneficial to the town?

[eyestott]

You're a genius. The scum-team is imploding.

Easy-Mode amirite?

Haha. That's not what I mean. I mean that it's not helping your case.

[guille2015]

Prohawk

: Do you think Nazarene is Scum? If you had an ambiguous result on someone dependent on their claim, would you request them to claim?