Mini 1622: (Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia [-Over-]

ProHawk · Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:17 pm

Better yet, can someone tell me why Dino is town/not scum?

Mathdino · Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:30 pm

↑ ProHawk wrote:ika can't solve the game because its freaking unbalanced, whodathunk?

Also, Dino is still scum.

These votes are garbage, and town as a collective whole is playing like garbage. What happened to general mafia strat? Why aren't we colluding to lynch someone?

1. ika and eyestott are the most likely players to break the game, actually. Unbalanced doesn't mean unsolvable. So far it looks unbalanced in town's favour.
2. What happened is
a. we colluded to lynch you but I believe your claim,
b. I'm waiting on Nazarene to get back before voting them, and
c. You might wanna change that to "Why aren't we colluding to lynch

someone

Mathdino?"

Quit complaining, it helps no one and it makes you look like an ass. General mafia strategy states that people don't DEFAULT to being scum, and you've yet to prove why I'm scum and why my actions are inconsistent with town.

eyestott · Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:31 pm

Why are ika and I most likely to break it?

Mathdino · Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:32 pm

Just going by the way you've been approaching the game and setup spec. ika is someone I recall having a certain penchant for setup spec and gamebreaking.

eyestott · Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:36 pm

So, it's unrelated to both of us claiming as investigation screwers?

eyestott · Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:41 pm

I thought you meant break in a bad way, but you meant solve?

ProHawk · Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:43 pm

You are scum because you are using setup to try and mold people into town and scum categories.

You had a supposed guilty you were ready to lynch, then backed down in order to push your agenda to lynch me, after killing the lone player with the balls to town-read me and defend me. After "believing" my claim, you still haven't reverted to what should be pretty logical from your point of view (Naz being scum). You're playing the field, trying to be townie-commando.

It's chaulk full of scum-motivation. You know that results don't mean diddly squat for the most part because you KNOW YOUR SCUMS POWER. Therefore you are trying to appear town by playing townie-commando-mass-claim-we-can-just-win-if-we-know-all-the-facts.

ProHawk · Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:43 pm

Need I go on?

Mathdino · Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:50 pm

istott, a broken game is like a setup with 1 doc, 1 cop, 4 townies, and 2 goons. It's broken just by the cop claiming and doc protecting. Follow the Cop. So yeah, positive.

@ProHawk:
1. I find it fairly solid, you've yet to refute it. Hell, I'm IN the scum category. I find my logic to be valid objectively.
2. You're not a mind reader. Naz being scum is exactly my point of view right now. But I want to wait for them to come back and defend, because I still see gun framer as a possibility.

ProHawk · Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:07 pm

Excuse me? Refute it? READ THE FREAKING GAME TITLE

Mathdino · Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:08 pm

↑ Mathdino wrote:Unbalanced doesn't mean unsolvable

ProHawk · Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:15 pm

Actually, it does when unbalanced means you get screwed up results as already seen.

Also, have you never played in a game with fake-claims?

Lets also play Spec-the-Mod. Odds that Mastin makes a game you can solve with mass-claim. Ready GO! (This is up for everyone to answer)

Mathdino · Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:27 pm

I think with a healthy dose of self questioning, scumhunting, and lynching, setup spec should

enhance

our play. Note that I'm not asking Fenix to fullclaim if it's not useful. Useful things so far are (let's make exhaustive list):
1. I have a guilty on Nazarene, who doesn't have a role with a gun
2. Naz has a 'guilty' on ProHawk, whose claim doesn't mesh with the result
3. guille roleblocked Fenix
4. Fenix did something while roleblocked
5. Everyone except guille has claimed a role investigative
If you think my results are screwed up, then wouldn't the correct thing to do be to wait and see what info we can get out of today?

ProHawk · Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:31 pm

No dude. You are just trying to piece together the information you DON'T have, so that you can make the best use of your roles. Newbies like to call this role-fishing. I don't know how you are getting away with it.

Mathdino · Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:33 pm

↑ ProHawk wrote:You are just trying to piece together the information you DON'T have, so that you can make the best use of your role
s
.

This is true, just without the 's'.

eyestott · Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:51 pm

↑ Mathdino wrote:I think with a healthy dose of self questioning, scumhunting, and lynching, setup spec should
enhance
our play. Note that I'm not asking Fenix to fullclaim if it's not useful. Useful things so far are (let's make exhaustive list):
1. I have a guilty on Nazarene, who doesn't have a role with a gun
2. Naz has a 'guilty' on ProHawk, whose claim doesn't mesh with the result
3. guille roleblocked Fenix
4. Fenix did something while roleblocked
5. Everyone except guille has claimed a role investigative
If you think my results are screwed up, then wouldn't the correct thing to do be to wait and see what info we can get out of today?

5 is wrong. Shos was the doctor, remember?

mastin2 · Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:13 pm

New page, new (lame-ass) VC.

ProHawk - 1 (pirate mollie)
Nazarene - 1 (guille2015)
EddieFenix - 1 (Nazarene)
guille2015 - 1 (EddieFenix)
Mathdino - 1 (ProHawk)
pirate mollie - 1 (Mathdino)
DrippingGoofBall - 1 (ika)

Not Voting - 2 (DrippingGoofBall, eyestott)

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

EddieFenix · Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:40 pm

It's Guille today for me so I'm not moving my ass.

EddieFenix · Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:42 pm

You got your guilty night 2, correct Dino? Just double checking.

eyestott · Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:46 pm

Oh my gosh. Can everyone keep their vote where it is, but DGB bot me, and I vote ika? Because then everyone will have one vote, and the group will be split into 3 groups of 3, where in each group, a votes b, b votes c, and c votes a. Please just humor me.
VOTE: ika
Will move as soon as mastin posts VC after DGB votes me.

mastin2 · Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:48 pm

'One is the loneliest number' my

ass

.

ProHawk - 1 (pirate mollie)
Nazarene - 1 (guille2015)
EddieFenix - 1 (Nazarene)
guille2015 - 1 (EddieFenix)
Mathdino - 1 (ProHawk)
pirate mollie - 1 (Mathdino)
DrippingGoofBall - 1 (ika)
ika - 1 (eyestott)
Not Voting - 1 (DrippingGoofBall)

eyestott · Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:52 pm

mastin, can you please order the vote count in this order?
Prohawk
Pirate
Math
Eddie
Nazarene
Guille
DGB
Ika
Eyestott
When DGB puts the vote on me down?

EddieFenix · Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:53 pm

Going to take some time today to sift thru some ISO's with campus over. Bulba's ISO is going to be the first thing I dive into to take a look into things.

mastin2 · Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:56 pm

↑ eyestott wrote:mastin, can you please order the vote count in this order?

Doing so would be a violation of my modding principles, as I follow a rather strict pattern on my VCs: The person with the highest number of votes is first, and if the number of votes is equal, the person who was last highest is on top. That player is currently ProHawk, followed by Nazarene. From there, it goes in votes' chronological order.

mastin2 · Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:56 pm

Oh, hey! You know what we need MORE of?