Open 581: Making Friends and Enemies! (Game over)

[Cheetory6]

In other words, I have GC as a strong town read. I'm still holding to my feels that the first to confirms will be the least likely to be scums and would rather lynch outside of them today - unless they really just do something that starts absolutely screaming scum to me.

Is this the only reason you're townreading GC?

[Grib]

It's right on 1/4, why not the others.

But yes, I get what you're saying and I even partially agree that it may be largely flawed due to the holidays. It's why I've amended that they're not in my vote pool for

today

unless I'm

reaaaally

sure they're scum.

What if someone tried to apply that same logic to, say, the first four on a lynch wagon?

And how sure is really sure? On Day 1, how sure is too sure? Point me to quotes or points that helped you form your reads, something concrete.

[Cheetory6]

As for my read on Kaboose, I'm leaning town on him at the moment because he seems to have this.. aura of confidence about pushing people and isn't really afraid at all to defend it. Could be reading too much into what may be playstyle, but he also doesn't strike me as scummy as a whole and hasn't said anything that I've found particularly suspect.

[elleheathen]

GC isn't one of the first four- so no.

I haven't explained my GC townread at all. I gave it because I was asked.

I have a reads list coming once I'm back home from vacation and not on this craptastic iPad - because I like to be specific on why I have a read on someone with specific quotes and references and I'm not about to try doing that from this thing.

[Grib]

Fair enough.

[Cheetory6]

I actually kind of like that you haven't used that excuse to escape other lines of questioning thus far. Heh.

[Kaboose]

Im on my phone so Im not going to bother quoting.

Dave brought it up but I don't feel I went a little deeper in to it. He just sort of brushed it off as nothing. I think its weirder than that.

Also Grib you didnt call me stupid, you're right. Was just two comments that made me feel stupid.

I agree on your point about when people confirm. It's terrible to assume the first, middle, last to confirm means anything at all. Lazy way to play in my opinion.

[Kaboose]

Im on my phone so Im not going to bother quoting.

Dave brought it up but I feel I went a little deeper in to it. He just sort of brushed it off as nothing. I think its weirder than that.

Also Grib you didnt call me stupid, you're right. Was just two comments that made me feel stupid.

I agree on your point about when people confirm. It's terrible to assume the first, middle, last to confirm means anything at all. Lazy way to play in my opinion.

ebwop i had two ways of saying one thing running together. Can we get a tapatalk app for this forum?

[elleheathen]

It's right on 1/4, why not the others.

But yes, I get what you're saying and I even partially agree that it may be largely flawed due to the holidays. It's why I've amended that they're not in my vote pool for

today

unless I'm

reaaaally

sure they're scum.

What if someone tried to apply that same logic to, say, the first four on a lynch wagon?

I don't see how thinking someone is more likely to be town for their actions pre-game start is at all the same as thinking someone is scummy enough for a lynch given in game information?

And how sure is really sure? On Day 1, how sure is too sure? Point me to quotes or points that helped you form your reads, something concrete.

Reaaaally sure for me usually means I'd be willing to bet my lynch on it - ie, 1v1.

[Whatisswag]

And how sure is really sure? On Day 1, how sure is too sure? Point me to quotes or points that helped you form your reads, something concrete.

Reaaaally sure for me usually means I'd be willing to bet my lynch on it - ie, 1v1.

This is town.

[Grib]

It's right on 1/4, why not the others.

But yes, I get what you're saying and I even partially agree that it may be largely flawed due to the holidays. It's why I've amended that they're not in my vote pool for

today

unless I'm

reaaaally

sure they're scum.

What if someone tried to apply that same logic to, say, the first four on a lynch wagon?

I don't see how thinking someone is more likely to be town for their actions pre-game start is at all the same as thinking someone is scummy enough for a lynch given in game information?

That was more towards your "it's right on 1/4 so why not the other 3?"

[Grib]

And how sure is really sure? On Day 1, how sure is too sure? Point me to quotes or points that helped you form your reads, something concrete.

Reaaaally sure for me usually means I'd be willing to bet my lynch on it - ie, 1v1.

This is town.

Disagree.

[Whatisswag]

I disagree your disagree. I would absolutely love to do this as town except that I have to care about everyone too.

[Lone Ranger]

Hello. I've replaced Hannibal. Thoughts later.

[Lone Ranger]

VOTE: I Love Fairies

Elle is my second choice. Riddleton, Cheetory, Davesaz, Corpses and maybe GreenCrayons are townreads.

[Whatisswag]

I got ignored. My second time ignored in my games when a replacement replaces in.

[elleheathen]

VOTE: I Love Fairies

Elle is my second choice. Riddleton, Cheetory, Davesaz, Corpses and maybe GreenCrayons are townreads.

Why are ILF and I scum?

What made ILF more scum than me - enough to start a new wagon on her instead of joining mine for an L-4?

Why are Riddleton and Corpses town?

[Lone Ranger]

Whatiswag is town. I forgot to mention this. ILF's first post is wishy-washy nonsense. Scum trying to look helpful but not saying anything. Elle read is gut. Not in the habit of explaining my townreads.

[elleheathen]

Soooo 'RVS' and no reason whatsoever for other reads. Noted.

[elleheathen]

Hey swag, 311/312 waiting for you.

[Lone Ranger]

Soooo 'RVS' and no reason whatsoever for other reads. Noted.

Not what I said. How did you get "RVS" out of "her first post looked scummy?"

Not providing reasons don't mean I don't have them.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Elle

[elleheathen]

True - I associated first post with RVS.

So if you have them, why not share them?

[Lone Ranger]

No reason to.

[Whatisswag]

This.

I just can't figure out if he's town that's just making himself look scummier by not giving a damn about what he posts or scum that just doesn't know how to not give himself away.

I'm not getting anywhere - ask away, Cheetory.

How do I not give a damn?

[elleheathen]

No reason to.

Yeah, I suppose not - if you're scum.