Mini 1624: Joss Whedon Mafia: The Musical (Game Over)

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

@ CABD

did you miss my question about your Ffery-read?

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Have a few other thoughts on Murder/Ffery but I want to see how a couple of things play out first.

[Medea the Alien]

Tenative town, not enough to stake the game on and wishing they'd be cleared or something.

[Murder of Crows]

Tenative town, not enough to stake the game on and wishing they'd be cleared or something.

On the one hand, you're officially behind in the arms race. On the other hand, I really can't see how or why you're this waffly.

[fferyllt]

f-16 what is your read on antihero?

[Murder of Crows]

f-16 what is your read on antihero?

mine

[Medea the Alien]

Tenative town, not enough to stake the game on and wishing they'd be cleared or something.

On the one hand, you're officially behind in the arms race. On the other hand, I really can't see how or why you're this waffly.

Regfan existed. My own read is partially on hold due to it. I'm being lazy I know.

[Medea the Alien]

Tell me if somebody you super duper respected the town game of died and flipped town calling me the biggest scum that ever scummed, that you wouldn't be weary of me? Can you?

[Murder of Crows]

Regfan was wrong.

I'm going to try not to get pissy about this. No promises.

When AP and I have a chance to talk, we'll discuss changing our vote.

[Medea the Alien]

I wouldn't expect a promise anyways? It is possible and in fact statistically likely regfan was wrong. Still not going to entirely discount it.

[Murder of Crows]

Tell me if somebody you super duper respected the town game of died and flipped town calling me the biggest scum that ever scummed, that you wouldn't be weary of me? Can you?

Would kinda depend on a lot of things.

I respect F-16's town game. Didn't change my read of RBD in your tales game. Wouldn't have changed my read if he'd flipped town first.

Assuming I had the data to develop my own read, I wouldn't hold Regfan up as more qualified than me to read you.

I haven't had a real test since the perpetual mylo game - I've been either playing with town you, or scum with scum-you ever since.

You have had real tests. Lots of them.

Now.

I'm going to try to leave this shiny thing alone and focus on figuring other shit out.

Did you see the reads lists that AP and I posted earlier today?

[Medea the Alien]

No. sorted.

Not going to rethink that for at least a game day.

So, the burning question is if and how to load a death ray gun.

Could Medea be lying in order to hold on to a shot for LYLO?

This is really cute. There really needs to be a term for this "re-introduce paranoia after ffery sorts cabd" action tell.

You didn't comment on this ffery. Why?

[Murder of Crows]

No. sorted.

Not going to rethink that for at least a game day.

So, the burning question is if and how to load a death ray gun.

Could Medea be lying in order to hold on to a shot for LYLO?

This is really cute. There really needs to be a term for this "re-introduce paranoia after ffery sorts cabd" action tell.

You didn't comment on this ffery. Why?

short answer - was on phone earlier and I didn't prioritize it for multitasking.

long answer, it confuses me a little, because it looks like you're calling it a "tell", but are kinda townreading Egg? Basically, decided to wait and see where your Egg read went from there.

Also, without metadiving, I'm not sure that "reintroducing paranoia" has been a scum tactic when we're both town. Has it?

[jesusbuddhavrishnathebest]

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[jesusbuddhavrishnathebest]

Cabd
Does it explicitly/implicitly say you can't shoot at all? Or are you assuming that because of the empty flavor? Would you be so kind as to clarify with Bulba if and how you can shoot?

[jesusbuddhavrishnathebest]

I will eventually properly catch up and have a lot to say.
But for now, I'll just indulge Cabd's desire to be the center of attention...

[Medea the Alien]

Cabd
Does it explicitly/implicitly say you can't shoot at all? Or are you assuming that because of the empty flavor? Would you be so kind as to clarify with Bulba if and how you can shoot?

No.
No.
He won't say if it's possible, but I currently have no action available. My assumption is red herring troll and there's no such thing as reloading it.

You really think I hadn't tried to ask?

[Marquis]

Although I guess there isn't really a reason for boonskies to forget about his powers really? It just seems weird

This is a big red flag for me too.
If hes actually an inventor, he should be able to remember his inventions.
Hes lying, about either what inventions he has, or his role.
I cant see him as town. Even if he is town, we cant afford to have him if we ever get to lylo.

Medea: Does your kill have to be used today? Can you save it?

Actually, Medea, you might want to hold off on using it. When the death ray was used in Dr.Horrible, it backfired. It could possibly be faulty. Just a theory.

maybe cabd just doesnt want to use the gun.

if it's real he can just post a

kill: f16

or something inthread.

[Egg]

I kinda want medea to prove it doesn't work...

[Marquis]

The thing with Murder/Yonce is they make so, so, so much sense as partners together and if it is some sort of weird multiball with limited kills, that's who I would be worried about. And Regfan's analysis of that matched with my suspicions almost exactly. And then he died.

problem is,

1) regfan's arguments about this were horribly flawed
a) "yonce and murder voted the exact same person the exact same way in adjacent posts i'm worried they're sneaky scum trying to make a counterwagon"

...yeah basically that

maybe it's a perspective thing, but other than me having an early scumread on murder and then starting to think i was probably wrong around the time ankamius/regfan appeared scummier to me, i really don't see how i could be scum claimwise much less a scumpartner of murder!scum playwise

[Medea the Alien]

I kinda want medea to prove it doesn't work...

Kill: Egg

[Marquis]

@Murder, the last 5 pages- mainly ffery? Any AP posts?

[Murder of Crows]

2360 and 2361 were AP.

[Marquis]

okay.

since you're here ffery, ctrl+f'ing "anti" in your iso leads to mostly a lot of replying to people talking about him. i know you said he's a poe scumread, but is there anything you can do to help me get a better sense of your stance and opinions on him? this is one of the key relationships between slots i've been wanting to sort this game and now that i'm out from behind the alt, i'm just asking directly now.

[Murder of Crows]

You are missing context here. This entire game so far has revolved around you. Your alignment is crucial for figuring out the game. It has started to become a Tales-Mastin type thing.

You didn't spend nearly this much time interacting with or otherwise trying to sort mastin.

[Murder of Crows]

okay.

since you're here ffery, ctrl+f'ing "anti" in your iso leads to mostly a lot of replying to people talking about him. i know you said he's a poe scumread, but is there anything you can do to help me get a better sense of your stance and opinions on him? this is one of the key relationships between slots i've been wanting to sort this game and now that i'm out from behind the alt, i'm just asking directly now.

I think you are overlooking some direct interactions with him on day 1 and 2.

Day 1, AP and I were scumreading him. I didn't like that he was declaring a scumread on us but doing nothing whatsoever to push it or to clarify it.

Day 2, I felt like there was some "posting what I'm thinking when I'm thinking it", and I identified with his expressions of apathy about the game. And, I weighted Mara's read pretty heavily because of their experience playing together.

But, learning more about the basis of her read, I'm less sanguine. I know that Antihero as scum sees lurking as a strategy, and I feel like as the game has progressed he's fallen into that mode.

That's not the basis for a strong scumread, but I have better reasons to think other nullish players are town.

Though the whole boonskiies/medea thing at this point is a little beyond my grasp. What I've come away with is that Medea isn't scum with boonskiies, and likely isn't scum at all because scum-cabd gambits are elegant, supremely confident, daring and carefully tended, and that doesn't at all describe what he's done here.