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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:02 pm

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copper223 wrote:I did the same in lucky star

Did I mention Lucky Star aside from the plain fact you drew scum? Ceph imposed the idea I was invoking meta for the read and I wasn't.
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:04 pm

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copper223 wrote:Your vote on me because I said the player I started the RVS on seemed scummy

Right, and the reasons you give for that range from him being scum to him being Jester (?) but don't include him just being awkward. There's a closed-mindedness about that which is scummy.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:07 pm

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CaskOfAmontillado wrote:How did you rule out him just being a a very awkward player just in general?

How are you not? I think he may be pretty awkward in general, but here you can clearly see he is leading us on, did you read ?

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And you know the post restriction is real... how?

I don't, I said it's not an element you should use to judge her alignment, what indicators do you have for telling me it's bullshit?

I have one that hints it is not, after I gave her a precise description of what her restriction is (facial expressions, especially eyes) she went ahead and used *nudges* which is neither of those, now if she is faking it don't you think she would have a strong incentive to conform to what is consistent with her prior posting and indirectly confirmed by me?
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:09 pm

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Krystal Bald wrote:*Waves*

This was the first thing she posted. It clearly wasn't facial expressions, copper.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:10 pm

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CaskOfAmontillado wrote:Right, and the reasons you give for that range from him being scum to him being Jester (?) but don't include him just being awkward. There's a closed-mindedness about that which is scummy.

He wants us to think he wants to get lynched, this is either a gambit as scum to make us think he is not or something to do with his win-con/utility of his role.

Once again read and tell me that is not design, he is saying he is not going to invest in fake claiming Jester, then he claims some sort of miller and finally he says he is insane.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:12 pm

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CaskOfAmontillado wrote:
Krystal Bald wrote:*Waves*

This was the first thing she posted. It clearly wasn't facial expressions, copper.

She is using facial expressions in the
post
, so don't be disingenuous TTH.

*Shakes head*


*Rolls eyes*
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:16 pm

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copper223 wrote:here you can clearly see he is leading us on,

But
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is he leading us on? There are town reasons and scum reasons for it, and I can think of both.

She is using facial expressions in the post, so don't be disingenuous TTH.

Is it still a post restriction at that point? Wouldn't they be strictly and uniformly enforced?
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:27 pm

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CaskOfAmontillado wrote:
copper223 wrote:here you can clearly see he is leading us on,

But
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is he leading us on? There are town reasons and scum reasons for it, and I can think of both.


Me too, that's why I said I'm not gunning for him yet (should I post a laughing robot as well now?). Read his scum qt's and the RVS part of the meta Ceph pointed out and come back to me with your thoughts.

CaskOfAmontillado wrote:
She is using facial expressions in the post, so don't be disingenuous TTH.

Is it still a post restriction at that point? Wouldn't they be strictly and uniformly enforced?

That's a good question and I have no idea as that modifier does not exists in RL mafia, it's also besides the point though because saying game mechanics are inherently scum or town indicative is bad and you are the first who normally says so too, so what's up?
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:33 pm

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copper223 wrote:saying game mechanics are inherently scum or town indicative is bad

This isn't my argument. I think they're faking the "mechanic."
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:34 pm

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Show me the evidence
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:39 pm

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On why it seems likely a true restriction to me; I had that tell (which if your interpretation of post consistency is correct is weaker than I believed), the setup which is about being stuck in a mad world and fake's idea about the silence poem which I interpreted as she may have chosen something from the silence poem to submit when asked for the three Poe connections.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:26 am

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Lynxkuroneko


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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:30 am

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I meant I was insane as part of general game flavor, and because I normally wouldn't want to be offed. I feel like my ability is mostly anti-town, therefore I'd be the best lynch D1 (and don't want to risk getting night killed, which ignores the better part of my ability). If you read my other games you'll see that I normally try to stay alive regardless.

Arguing whether we think a post restriction is real isn't going to solve problems right now. I'd rather we scrutinize whether that player is providing town support or not, pr or no.

If we have an investigative around its up to them to sort that out.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:33 am

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Pretty much, and getting lynched lets me be helpful.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:05 am

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@Lynx
Fair enough, so what's the upside of lynching you for town?
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:09 am

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Reconnaisance.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:30 am

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I'm not sure it's worth it if it's just for that kingdom by the sea?
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:54 am

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Oh, its worth it. No matter the outcome.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:08 am

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Fine I'll support you on this, the land of cats, Poe's grave and alien planets are all placed where it would be fun to roam.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:19 am

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<3 Anyone else have thoughts on this?
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:42 am

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Okay. I'm pretty meh on Lynx aside from a couple of things: Why, if we would regret lynching you, would it be to our advantage to lynch you? Both can't be true. Also, why are you "trying not to give off jester vibes?" Why would that be a thing?

Both vengeful and paranoid seem to be adjectives that could describe characters in Poe imo.

To me, the post restriction is not alignment-indicative and could be true, could be false. Krystal's overall level of contribution, however, might be a better indicator. I realised after I posted my question to her that she can obviously shake her head, so:

@Krystal: Do you have reasons to think we shouldn't be voting Lynx today? If you think we should, please nod. If not, please shake your head at me.

@TellTaleHeart/Cask of Amontillado: In a game that is full of hydras, do you think that Krystal's post restriction (real or faked) is especially distractive or annoying?
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:31 am

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I meant that scum would regret lynching me.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:59 am

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Is there a sample VT role pm?


Why did you want this, Faster than Light?

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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:25 am

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Bookitty wrote:
Faster Than Light wrote:
Is there a sample VT role pm?


Why did you want this, Faster than Light?

@Lynx: Do you think there are scum on your wagon? If so, who do you think they are?


my faction looked scummy but i knew I was town so i had to double check

orci's first post reconfirmed me but i had to triple check
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