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[All is Who]

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Am willing to move to ABR, though I think FourTrouble is more likely scum.

Huh. This but in reverse. We've been talking and we may just jump to 4Tomatoes because the company is so sexy.

Pine, Icy, thoughts?

All is who is weird but town. I basically called him an asshole in my head during the 5 year old comment.

I <3 you too Farside.

[Titus]

So difficult to get into this.

[Iecerint]

I think Pine's fakeclaim is maybe a good place to start if you want an "event."

[Titus]

Link?

[Iecerint]

Here.

[Titus]

What does it mean to be a suicidal day cop? Is that a desperado?

[Titus]

Why doesn't pine just day cop our lynch of choice? If it's scum we lynch. If not we get a lot of information for the next lynch.

[Iecerint]

1. Suicidal is a role modifier that dies passively when a certain condition is met, typically N1. I had to check the wiki. I don't know what a desperado is.

2. He fakeclaimed. That is not his real role or result.

[Shadowmod]

—VOTE COUNT—

farside22

(0/7) —

Pine

,

Andrius

,

Nachomamma8

,

Konowa

Southern Gothic

(0/7) —

Nachomamma8

,

FourTrouble

,

Albert B. Rampage

Iecerint

(2/7)

— Gilgamesh King Of Heroes,

All is Who

,

Pine,

Albert B. Rampage

FourTrouble

(2/7)

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farside22

,

Andrius, Southern Gothic

Pine

(0/7) —

Iecerint

,

Albert B. Rampage

,

Albert B. Rampage

Albert B. Rampage

(2/7)

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Pine

,

Nachomamma8,

Konowa

,

All is Who

Titus

Konowa

(0/7) —

farside22

,

Southern Gothic

,

Albert B. Rampage

Andrius

(3/7)

— FourTrouble, Iecerint, farside22,

Albert B. Rampage

All is Who

(1/7)

— Albert B. Rampage

Not Voting (3/13): PeregrineV, VictorDeAngelo, Titus

With 13 players still alive, 7 votes are required for a lynch, 7 to force no lynch.

Day 1 deadline is (expired on 2015-01-12 17:00:00)

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—Announcement—

Gilgamesh King Of Heroes

replaces

Flames682

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[Titus]

Why can't we force him to wagon our lynch wagon that isn't him? If he's full of shit, he still has to confirm said players alignment. If he's telling the truth, we get more information. So what's the harm if we dictate the second use?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Do we really need to wait or can we just hammer Titus.

[PeregrineV]

Why can't we force him to wagon our lynch wagon that isn't him? If he's full of shit, he still has to confirm said players alignment. If he's telling the truth, we get more information. So what's the harm if we dictate the second use?

2. He fakeclaimed. That is not his real role or result.

[PeregrineV]

Do we really need to wait or can we just hammer Titus.

We can wait.

Vote: Fourtrouble

[Titus]

@ABR/PV, that's obviously wrong game. I have 0 votes here.

[PeregrineV]

@ABR/PV, that's obviously wrong game. I have 0 votes here.

He was saying hammer you as in vote you up to L-1 and then hammer, not that the next vote on you would be the actual Hammer.

Did you see Iec say that Pine was fake claiming? If so, what's the point of 534?

[FourTrouble]

far, why do you think Who is town?

[Albert B. Rampage]

wrong game lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not going to vote for FourTrouble today.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Titus are you going to be fully caught up soon?

[Gilgamesh King Of Heroes]

Greetings, mongrels.

It seems the gods have decided that my duty is to grace you all with my presence in this laughable excuse for entertainment you call a "mafia game".

Very well. I shall allow you all to entertain me.

For the night is dark and full of terror.

Spurn not the Old Food Gods, and they will forget thee not, my son. Remember that the Great Smoked Halibut in the Sky sees your pain and will reward his loyal faithful sons.

In the great Halibut's eyes, only the chosen may thrive.

Hmph. You filthy lowlifes dare worship this "halibut" as opposed to your one true king?!

The Great Smoked Halibut does not shirk when the enemy so willingly presents itself.

Oh... I see. You claim to be a god of some kind. Only a mongrel would delude himself with such grandeur.

This mollie person has done nothing of significance in mafiascum history.

Well, well, well... This is

quite

interesting. Someone who knows not to concern themselves with the insignificant. I think I can overlook some of your transgressions.

Take note, Iecerint and Nacho are historically some of my closest allies and favorite players, and Pine has quickly reached the same status in the few games I've been with him this year.

It appears I was mistaken. One as revered as yourself need not associate themselves with mongrels. You disappoint me, ABR.

ABR who gives a shit what people think of us, he's scum

I am inclined to agree. Perhaps not a member of the mafia per se, but scum indeed.

Gentlemen, let's be reasonable. Voting for me for being complimentary and expressing my approval of you is like feeding your dog when he's begging for food while you're eating. You're not reinforcing the behavior you want to elicit here.

Comparing yourself to a dog... how trite. I grow bored of you.


While I consider sex one of the great pleasures of this world, I find the attempts at erotic literature devoid of any effort or imagination. This is no way to entertain your king. Play the fool correctly or dismiss yourselves from my presence.

I also grow weary of Southern Gothic's concern with her own well-being (123). Only someone with the unholiest confessions fears the priest. Farside acting as the sinner (130) interests me, however.

It has more to do with when you tunnel you can't see the Holy Grail past the carrot on the end of the stick your blinders are so narrow.

Hah! Mongrel, you know nothing of the Grail.


Iecerint's choice of language interests me. 137 - "not interested in lynching her on the grounds that..."; 142 - "now that I have been directed to look at it". This feels... unnatural.

It seems this game is finally beginning to provide me with sufficient entertainment.

That's not why I think she is Scum at all?

I am quite actually confused as to WHY you think she is scum!

cos I don't see how she is avoiding us when she is asking for tth. and I find it strange that you are saying that she is voting not trying to sort motivation when I think that albert's posts are way the fuck more indicative of that.

selective scumhunting is selective scumhunting.

How amusing - one sinner defending another. I don't see why you would change your vote considering your past comments on ABR.

Konowa seems to mean well. I am willing to take his side in this matter.

All is Who is causing me great joy in his antics. Take note, mongrels - this is how you play the fool. Aside from that, he appears to be relatively unimportant.

I think Flames has a good chance of being scum.

Post 87, Post 90, and Post 92 all discuss forming reads from the first few pages, specifically Nacho's read on ABR and Andrius' read on Iecerint. On the surface it mimics the group dynamic in form and subject, but the questioning is awkward and stilted because it's very static. The contrarianism in the posts doesn't really leave anywhere for the conversation to go because Flames never bothers to talk about specifics or pinpoint what

exact

problems he has with the reads. As such, it's very unlikely these posts would elicit a productive response. There's also not much critical evaluation of the reads going on, evidenced by the fact he misstated Nacho's argument ("I don't find explaining something indicative of alignment."). This leads me to the conclusion that the posts are for the purpose of looking participatory and trying not to set off any alarm bells.

Could you please develop your scum read on Iecerint a little more, Flames?

Well, well. You seem to take issue with my predecessor. He states quite clearly that he doesn't have a townread on Iecerint - but this does not imply he holds a scumread. I'm concerned with the fact that Southern Gothic is so hung up on minute details (including 207 on this page alone) and their attempt at misrepresenting Flames. Perhaps it is because of my subconscious bias to my game slot, but I'm not comfortable with their actions here.

Here is Iec's entrance post, which I believe the explanation comment is referring to:

I had to clarify something with the mod before I was comfortable posting. The flavor had thrown me off a little. This is not a crumb for anything.

211 is useless drivel. Do not waste my time with such arrogant posting in the future.

I have read ten pages of the game and have come to the following conclusions:
Southern Gothic - scum
Iecerint - scum
farside - interesting
Konowa (now Titus?) - town
ABR - town
Andrius - town
All Is Who, Peregrine, Victor, Nacho, Pine, 4Trouble - null

[Iecerint]

Depending on how much you're skimming, you may have misread my first one. The "grounds" I am referring to were what I perceived to be Konowa's, not mine.

Not sure how the other one could be construed as weird, really. Andy pointed out Peregrine's thing in a way that you'll get to more discussion on later, which is why I was directed to look at something.

[Andrius]

Me being the only one around makes some sense.

I did the same thing last night with friends - asking two questions when one would suffice. Instead of going straight for "would you like to go out for pie?" I went "What are your thoughts on pie?" and then "Do you want to go out for pie?"

The line that you focused on from PV is not something I had noticed, but you noticed it, so there might have been a reason for that. Your information here that it's a read you like could also explain you having noticed it. My thinking was that you might have been worried that someone would notice your scumfriend's error and tried to link it to another player (i.e., hence the oddly specific decision -- explained by you above as me being the only one around around -- to ask me about it and the decision to reveal that it was PereV indirectly).

I'm glad we understand another. The tell comes from Storm of Swords Mafia, where Mikujin, some pages into the game, said he had no scum-reads. I found it highly suspect and single-handedly defined my read on him. You shouldn't get this far into a game without scumreads. (Granted, when I replaced in he was already dead by the time I arrived).

Farside, from reading FourTrouble's 25 posts and ignoring the first one since he didn't explain how serious of a vote his RVS-stage vote was, he has (apparently) the following reads:
ABR Town
Iece Town
Andy Scum
SG Town
far Town

5/12 is not sufficient this far in. He also has one scumread. Granted, he did ask you why you thought Who was town, implying of course he is either in disagreement with you or merely curious.
But don't tell me that that is 'figuring people out'. At most, he is figuring one person out. Me. Who voted him right before he voted me.

ABR has not gone unnoticed. Iece was merely a departure from his trend and ABR continues to be trying and perplexing.

I saw it as baiting you, asking about the behavior prior to pointing out the behavior.

The latter part of this makes good sense.
Asking about the behavior before pointing out the behavior.

Greetings, mongrels.

It seems the gods have decided that my duty is to grace you all with my presence in this laughable excuse for entertainment you call a "mafia game".

Very well. I shall allow you all to entertain me.

The join date of yesterday explains the odd behavior. Welcome, Gilgamesh. I don't understand your self-elevated posting style.

Oh... I see. You claim to be a god of some kind. Only a mongrel would delude himself with such grandeur.

To mean that would be blasphemy.
I serve the one true higher power and am blessed with his graces.

I await your interpretation of the intetions of these players gathered here, myself least of these.
Though I think your attitude is unbecoming, and somewhat annoying.


Deadline is in ~3 days.
We should not tarry.
I will move to ABR if Nacho and Who will not move.

[Iecerint]

Unvote; Vote: FourTrouble

[Iecerint]

I had not noticed the deadline. No more time for goofing around.

I like Andy's most recent post. FourTrouble seems content to sit on the outside and ask what player A thinks about player B ad nauseum, which I find not particularly effective at best and scummy in a sideliny way at first. I know nothing about FT's meta either way.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nope.

Unvote, vote Andrius