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[Albert B. Rampage]

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Victor has produced nothing all day and we won't miss him. We can't let that slot live deep into the game, we all know that. Four is steadily contributing and we can analyze his thoughts as event progress in the game. Let’s lynch Victor instead, surely nobody could deny he’s useless.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Peregrine, farside, SG, gogogo.

[FourTrouble]

I was just thinking Victor was scum via process of elimination, so yea I'm down for that.

Vote: Victor

[Iecerint]

Victor would not be a tragic lynch.

[FourTrouble]

Also, Andrius isn't burnt out - he had a break, right? - so his level of investment isn't very telling. More telling is who he votes for, when, and why. That stuff suggests he's scum.

see now I think you made a vague attempt to catch up.

no1 said andy was "burnt out". <---- that is a misrep.

VOTE: 4 trouble

Is this "misrep" why you're so confident I'm scum?

[Southern Gothic]

Also, Andrius isn't burnt out - he had a break, right? - so his level of investment isn't very telling. More telling is who he votes for, when, and why. That stuff suggests he's scum.

see now I think you made a vague attempt to catch up.

no1 said andy was "burnt out". <---- that is a misrep.

VOTE: 4 trouble

Is this "misrep" why you're so confident I'm scum?

it is 1 of the reasons I think you are scum!

[FourTrouble]

What are the others?

[Andrius]

I was just thinking Victor was scum via process of elimination, so yea I'm down for that.

Vote: Victor

Please explain how you got from having five reads to narrowing Victor down by 'process of elimination'.
There is no progression of your reads.

Futhermore, I do not think that Victor should be the lynch today with ABR and FourTrouble around. ABR, do you not think I am scum? FourTrouble? I see the reasoning for lynching Victor, don't get me wrong, and it makes complete sense to do so if we have no other options or we are AT deadline. The fact that a number of people posted in the last two hours attests that people are here and people should be able to arrive at a lynch. We are not at deadline. We are approaching deadline.

FourTrouble abandoning their only scumread (me) and ABR abandoning one of his (!) are suspect.
If FourTrouble and ABR actually think that I am scum they, as town, should hold out and actually try and vote scum and return to Victor, who has been absent for reasons (I believe he said he was sick?), only at deadline.

Nacho, I need you. If I am doing wrong please correct me.

[Shadowmod]

—VOTE COUNT—

farside22

(0/7) —

Pine

,

Andrius

,

Nachomamma8

,

Konowa

Southern Gothic

(0/7) —

Nachomamma8

,

FourTrouble

,

Albert B. Rampage

Iecerint

(2/7)

— Gilgamesh King Of Heroes,

All is Who

,

Pine,

Albert B. Rampage

FourTrouble

(4/7)

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farside22

,

Andrius, Southern Gothic, PeregrineV, Iecerint

Pine

(0/7) —

Iecerint

,

Albert B. Rampage

,

Albert B. Rampage

Albert B. Rampage

(2/7)

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Pine

,

Nachomamma8,

Konowa

,

All is Who

Titus

Konowa

(0/7) —

farside22

,

Southern Gothic

,

Albert B. Rampage

Andrius

(1/7)

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FourTrouble

,

Iecerint

,

farside22,

Albert B. Rampage

,

Albert B. Rampage

,

All is Who

(0/7) —

Albert B. Rampage

VictorDeAngelo

(2/7)

— Albert B. Rampage, FourTrouble

Not Voting (2/13): VictorDeAngelo, Titus

With 13 players still alive, 7 votes are required for a lynch, 7 to force no lynch.

Day 1 deadline is (expired on 2015-01-12 17:00:00)

[FourTrouble]

Please explain how you got from having five reads to narrowing Victor down by 'process of elimination'.

Iece, ABR, far, and Pine are strong townreads. PereV leans town. Nacho is probably town but needs to post more. Southern was town but I'm currently reevaluating that. Their confidence that I'm scum doesn't seem to match their given reason (a supposed "misrep"), so we'll see. I also don't like their opposition to the votes on you.

That leaves Andrius, Who, Victor, Gilgamesh and Titus. Who's case on ABR was fucking terrible, but I don't know them that well, so I'm not sure if that means they're scum or shitty townies. far says they're town; ABR says they're scum. I lean town based on their effort and tone but I'm still working on that read too (similar to Southern).

Titus and Gilgamesh both haven't said much, but Gilgamesh's self-importance feels town. I also liked a couple posts from Flames (his "lynch me if I don't post soon" post felt town), so that slot leans town. Titus looks clueless, which is what I've seen from him as town, so I'm not worried him either. I'm more curious about Southern's view on Titus (especially given their suspicion of Konowa earlier). We'll see how that pans out.

At bottom, that leaves you and Victor, plus maybe Titus or Who or Southern. I also doubt that Who or Southern are scum together, so I'm ruling that possibility out in the analysis.

[farside22]

far, why do you think Who is town?

I like his attitude mostly.

Andy: explain one thing. Why are you voting four, whom no one else seems to be voting and not abr? I ask this as a very simple reason.

[farside22]

Look. Andrius reads are what scum would have you believe they think. FourTrouble, me, and Peregrine. Take a peek at that list. I'm already under fire by Who and Icerint. Peregrine has been absent. And FourTrouble is already under fire too. No, I just don't buy it.

I like this to an extend and noted Andy attacked four after I did, using my view.

Who had farside as scum.

Funny enough the guy that followed me onto four says I "should be looked at if/when four flips scum"

I'd hate to be lynched by my townreads...

Why is Pere a town read?

[Pine]

Who would you lynch besides Andrius?

Who? Who. That's who.

ABR

No

I thought we talked about this

I'd hate to be lynched by my townreads...

Didn't buy into the FourTrouble case until now. This woe is me act can eat rope

I like Gilgamesh for town btw.

Agreed 100%

Using logic, sorting reads, orderly thought process

Also, is apparently a king

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Sigh

I need to fill this game's meds. Lurker lynches are uninformative. Don't abandon actual scumreads for them

Unvote
Vote FourTrouble

[farside22]

I'm so not lynching four at all.

[farside22]

Pine vote and reasoning is crap too.

[FourTrouble]

Pine, "woe is me" acts aren't scummy per se (context matters) and that's not even what my "hate to be lynched by townreads" post was. I was voicing frustration/disappointment with Iece's vote and was hoping he'd look into my meta (i.e. I don't want to be lynched by you, so if I'm gonna be lynched, at least take the time and do some research).

[Pine]

Pine vote and reasoning is crap too.

Disagree

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why is Pere a town read?

If Pere were scum, let me quote you exactly what he would not have posted as soon as the wind was blowing against me:

VIII. Albert B. Rampage
XI. Pine
Strong tendency to read as scum every game. Usually wrong, as the odds have it, but that doesn't make me not do it.
Somewhat gut, not feeling ABR scum. When we day1 lynched him in the Magic mafia, I was feeling he was town by day's end, but it took a while to get there. Would like to see more of play like that, but like I said so far, gut read for now.

Why would he close the door for my mislynch instead of being consistent with his town paranoia of me? He would have either been all over me as soon as Who made a push in my direction, or he would have let things play out and either run up somebody else or wait until a deadline lynch on me was viable. I don't think Pere is scum.

[FourTrouble]

Why is Pere a town read?

I liked his early posts. 210 felt like clueless town, and I like the sequence in 508 and 509, explaining what he thinks about certain players to solidifying a few townreads. The "no comment" on Southern to calling Southern town felt very natural. I think scum would have said something about someone they're about to townread. I'm not sure why he voted me but the "we can wait" stuff on Titus also felt town.

[FourTrouble]

far, please vote Victor.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Victor is the best lynch for today.

[Gilgamesh King Of Heroes]

Iec saw something I missed in his 252. Perhaps I was wrong about him. In fact, I believed there may be some sort of connection between farside and Gothic when their similar posts (123 / 130) caught my eye and this strengthens that read.

Gothic's reaction to Iec's 252 (in 261) also concerns me: "I feel good about you and andy did feel good about iceyrent up until the last but eh.", especially in tandem with my theory. If my theory proves to be correct, we can certainly end this game in a swift fashion.

More useless drivel in 270 from Nacho. Disgusting.

Pine's claim does not concern me - and of course, the claim was false. I find Iec looking better after that slew of mindless blathering, and All Is Who's vote in 321 looks worse as a result. Pine and ABR jumping on Iec is... odd, as I am currently townreading all of them.

As for why I find Iec more town - it comes across as "panicked" town (for lack of a better word) trying to confirm details. It does not feel like something town could fake.

All is Who's 416 is abysmal. It doesn't feel natural. The lack of feeling is what I would expect from a mongrel; it's a shame, I had high hopes from your earlier performance.

I don't see what's so scummy about ABR. I'd much rather lynch Andrius or one of the folks opposing his lynch.

The irony in this statement alone is palpable.

Pine's 466 gives me an odd feeling. I dislike players who dismiss arguments as 'town versus town'.

Victor has finally decided to make an appearance. (492).

86 - I find this vote over explained, almost trying too hard to go beyond the reasons Pine voted for ABR.

87 - This defense of ABR is worth noting if he's scum.

What is it with you mongrels and your incredibly

obvious

irony?

I skimmed from this point to catch up, as I began to become increasingly bored.

Willing to tolerate - Iec, Titus, ABR, Andrius
Players of interest - Pine, farside, Victor
Mongrels - Southern Gothic, All is Who
??? - Peregrine, Nacho, 4Trouble

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Depending on how much you're skimming, you may have misread my first one. The "grounds" I am referring to were what I perceived to be Konowa's, not mine.

My point was that your post read "I will not lynch farside on the grounds that X", implying "I will lynch farside on the grounds that Y". Do you lack reading comprehension, mongrel? Consider yourself lucky that I am willing to ignore you for now.

Greetings, mongrels.

It seems the gods have decided that my duty is to grace you all with my presence in this laughable excuse for entertainment you call a "mafia game".

Very well. I shall allow you all to entertain me.

The join date of yesterday explains the odd behavior. Welcome, Gilgamesh. I don't understand your self-elevated posting style.

Oh... I see. You claim to be a god of some kind. Only a mongrel would delude himself with such grandeur.

To mean that would be blasphemy.
I serve the one true higher power and am blessed with his graces.

I await your interpretation of the intetions of these players gathered here, myself least of these.
Though I think your attitude is unbecoming, and somewhat annoying.

Know your place, mongrel. The next time you address me in such a tone, I will take your head.

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VOTE: Southern Gothic - this is the player not worthy to remain in my presence. I will accept no others.

[FourTrouble]

Gilgamesh, can you explain your read on Titus and vote on Southern.

[Gilgamesh King Of Heroes]

EBWOP

As for why I find Iec more town - it comes across as "panicked" town (for lack of a better word) trying to confirm details. It does not feel like something

scum

could fake.

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My read on Titus stems from Konowa's actions in that slot.

My read on Southern Belles has been laid out in my posts thus far fairly clearly. In addition, a king shall never bend the knee to his servants; the other wagons do not interest me enough to sway my opinion. I shall join one of them if it comes to deadline, but no sooner.

[Southern Gothic]

EBWOP

As for why I find Iec more town - it comes across as "panicked" town (for lack of a better word) trying to confirm details. It does not feel like something

scum

could fake.

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My read on Titus stems from Konowa's actions in that slot.

My read on Southern Belles has been laid out in my posts thus far fairly clearly. In addition, a king shall never bend the knee to his servants; the other wagons do not interest me enough to sway my opinion. I shall join one of them if it comes to deadline, but no sooner.

this isn't southern belles.

looks like some1 has an axe to grind.