Open 581: Making Friends and Enemies! (Game over)

[NJAC]

I know you're tired of empty promises but I think I'll finally have the time to fully catch up during this weekend. I thought of asking to be replaced but seeing all the replacements, and considering that I really want to play this game, I'll play to my best from now on.

[Whatisswag]

Five replacements, all at once. Amazing.

Which is why we should get rid (get riddle) of one of those slots before they gets replaced because 5 replacements are ...

[Armageddon]

Vote count
Day 1.10

Players alive: 13

Players needed to lynch: 7

CorpsesInEthanol

- 1 - Riddleton - (L-6)

elleheathen

- 2 - CorpsesInEthanol, Grib - (L-5)

Grib

- 1 - NJAC - (L-6)

I Love Fairies

- 1 - Green Crayons - (L-6)

Kaboose

- 1 - Lone Ranger - (L-6)

NJAC

- 1 - Kaboose - (L-6)

Riddleton

- 2 - Cheetory6, Whatisswag - (L-5)

Whatisswag

- 1 - I Love Fairies - (L-6)

Players not voting: Malakittens, davesaz, elleheathen

Mod notes:

Malakittens replaces awesomeusername.
Still looking for replacements for I Love Fairies and CorpsesInEthanol.
Riddleton has requested replacement.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2015-01-16 20:45:00)

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Deadline will be FROZEN for the duration of this weekend, essentially giving you a 2 day extension (Was 4 days, now 6) to allow the replacement to catch up, and hopefully find replacements for the other 3 slots requiring them. Normally I would not give an extension unless in extenuating circumstances, but due to the amount of replacements required I feel it would be unfair to not extend the deadline.

[Malakittens]

Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfect~

I'll definitely catch up on this game tomorrow, but one thing which I'm not understanding is why WiS is pushing for the riddle lynch when 4 replacements are needed. He's trying to get us into night and most likely stay in night.

I don't like that, but based on a bit that I skimmed of ISO this doesn't feel like the scum-WiS i played in his first newbie game.

[Grib]

Hey Mala, did you replace into a scumslot?

[Malakittens]

It's a townslot!

[Whatisswag]

Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfect~

I'll definitely catch up on this game tomorrow, but one thing which I'm not understanding is why WiS is pushing for the riddle lynch when 4 replacements are needed. He's trying to get us into night and most likely stay in night.

I don't like that, but based on a bit that I skimmed of ISO this doesn't feel like the scum-WiS i played in his first newbie game.

Correct!

[Whatisswag]

Of course, if riddle's slot is replaced, then I will unvote.

[Cheetory6]

*flops*
No energy to reread right now. Will try tomorrow.

[Kaboose]

We still need 3/4 replacements?

[Lone Ranger]

Prod dodge. Still waiting on those replacements.

[davesaz]

I know you're tired of empty promises but I think I'll finally have the time to fully catch up during this weekend. I thought of asking to be replaced but seeing all the replacements, and considering that I really want to play this game, I'll play to my best from now on.

Even if you have to do it in sections, anything with content would help.

[Malakittens]

Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfect~

I'll definitely catch up on this game tomorrow, but one thing which I'm not understanding is why WiS is pushing for the riddle lynch when 4 replacements are needed. He's trying to get us into night and most likely stay in night.

I don't like that, but based on a bit that I skimmed of ISO this doesn't feel like the scum-WiS i played in his first newbie game.

Correct!

Of course, if riddle's slot is replaced, then I will unvote.

do you know how anti-town this is.

First you're pushing a lynch on someone who can not claim because they aren't here when they get to L-1 and you could possibly have a mason. (Not saying this is the case, but could happen). Secondly, there's 6 freaking days on the deadline clock. I haven't caught up and I'd like to hear what replacements have to offer. pushing a lynch when we still need slots replaced is scummy as hell, even though I don't think you're scum. I'd like you to stop so I can first catch up and want to hear others thoughts.

[Whatisswag]

Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfect~

I'll definitely catch up on this game tomorrow, but one thing which I'm not understanding is why WiS is pushing for the riddle lynch when 4 replacements are needed. He's trying to get us into night and most likely stay in night.

I don't like that, but based on a bit that I skimmed of ISO this doesn't feel like the scum-WiS i played in his first newbie game.

Correct!

Of course, if riddle's slot is replaced, then I will unvote.

do you know how anti-town this is.

First you're pushing a lynch on someone who can not claim because they aren't here when they get to L-1 and you could possibly have a mason. (Not saying this is the case, but could happen). Secondly, there's 6 freaking days on the deadline clock. I haven't caught up and I'd like to hear what replacements have to offer. pushing a lynch when we still need slots replaced is scummy as hell, even though I don't think you're scum. I'd like you to stop so I can first catch up and want to hear others thoughts.

Whatever

[Malakittens]

wondeful that's exactly what I wanted to hear when I'm reaching out to you and asking you to work with me.

[Whatisswag]

I have nothing to add at this point until the inactives are replaced and I hear from the replacements in a way that will help me get reads on them.

The only thing I really want to comment on is how no one seems to have any issue with Green Crayons's analysis. Too many look at his walls, nod their heads in agreement and say "good point, I didn't notice that!" or similar things. It is lame as hell and moderately annoying. GC's analysis is shallow, surface level, and looks fake. Scum are perfectly capable of writing walls and posting comments and the easy townreads there suck. Unlike my previous concern about people townreading Cheetory, this one is more of I feel that GC is scum coasting by on surface level analysis that a whole bunch of town are buying hook, line, and sinker. What of GC's posts have felt town? Where has GC at any point felt genuine and like he was trying to solve the game? His analysis is skin-deep and lame as hell. And that's who I think people should look into.

Elle, if you are town, don't give up. Your lynch is far from a foregone conclusion. Who knows what the thoughts and opinions of the people replacing in are going to be? I sympathize with your feeling of being frustrated at trying to drive the game forward only to picked apart and its probably one of the reasons that all things being equal, I'd lynch someone who is contributing less.

At least Green Crayons is doing more things than those inactives. That is enough.

[Whatisswag]

And also, I think LR is more scummy than elle.

[Whatisswag]

The association between LR and other players seem unnatural to me. It seems like "I have a plan on how I should connect people to me"

[Green Crayons]

wondeful that's exactly what I wanted to hear when I'm reaching out to you and asking you to work with me.

Nobody is following swag on this.

[Armageddon]

CptPicard replaces I Love Fairies

[Whatisswag]

I revised my scum team analysis and the only possible scum team I can find among the people with 37+ posts is the team {Grib, elle, Lone Ranger}

[Whatisswag]

Give me a read on elle with reasoning, when you get the time. I know you were asked this recently:
She has almost 30 posts. Surely there's something in there that makes you think she's leaning town or scum?

Null leaning scum. At the point in time of my previous answer, she was null-town. Since then the only things she has posted have been to take my side in my push on swag. She even asked if I thought her defending me was town or scum. This doesn't seem very town to me, it's like she wanted to know if it was safe to continue or not.

1) It was never

your

push on swag. Telling someone to 'fuck off' isn't exactly a push on them.

2) Wanting to see if you'd actually commit to a read vs fence-sitting isn't town?

Eh. I'm too impatient. I don't like this post, and there's something else I want to look into.

VOTE: elleheathen

Hi elle. Could I trouble you for your current reads on Kaboose, davesaz, and Green Crayons?

Without warning, Grib bounces on the wagon.

You are so scum it is funny. I could make a case on you based just on what you posted since I replaced in:

VOTE: I Love Fairies

Elle is my second choice. Riddleton, Cheetory, Davesaz, Corpses and maybe GreenCrayons are townreads.

Why are ILF and I scum?

What made ILF more scum than me - enough to start a new wagon on her instead of joining mine for an L-4?

Why are Riddleton and Corpses town?

Loaded question. Who gives a damn how many votes are on you or on ILF at this stage of the game? Deadline is more than two weeks away. If a need to compromise arises, it can be done. The way you frame this question is intended to make me look bad for voting someone with no votes on them as opposed to you. It also shows you giving off an air of "I don't care if you vote me."

Soooo 'RVS' and no reason whatsoever for other reads. Noted.

A pretty clear misrep. I called a post scummy. Never said anything about RVS. You correct this later but I'm not sold on it.

You assume I have no reasons because I don't give them. Have you never played with people who don't divulge reasons for their reads? Have you never had gut reads?

The "noted" at the end is the icing on the cake. It carries a tone of "I have proved my case" and attempts to manipulate bystander's view of our argument.

No reason to.

Yeah, I suppose not - if you're scum.

The posturing here... my god. Do I need to explain this?

Why did you not even look through the first few posts of elle? Are you sure there is nothing scummy?

[Cheetory6]

VOTE: Grib
You're totes mcgotes scum, aren't you?

[Grib]

No.

Don't ever use "mcgotes."

[elleheathen]

Prod dodge. Still waiting on those replacements.

SCUBA.