I’m back. Catching up now. Page 12 responses/thoughts/questions.
@eyestott - Buddying point has been dropped. Thank you.
↑ davesaz wrote: ↑ Wickedestjr wrote:Phone post
You've misinterpreted my question. I wasn't questioning you for the shortness of the reads list (OBVIOUSLY there are players who have provided even less than you have). I am fine with that. I was questioning your inclusion of the null reads in your reads post. Why did you specifically include mastin and Anen in your reads list (as opposed to... say... eye and beast) when you literally had nothing interesting to say about them? E.g. Did I miss a post where someone asked you for your reads on those players? If you weren't going to post a reads list for all the players then why did you specifically include just those few null reads (because I assume you also null read all the players not mentioned). I was wondering if the unhelpful null reads we're added simply for filler. Does that make sense?
1: Well, the point of my bringing up that post was that you asked if it was "filler" and quoted the post right after TS also mentioned "filler", but without noting that.
2: I make a distinction between someone I've tried to read and came up null, vs one I haven't even attempted.
The players not listed in that post were ones who don't even warrant a "null" mention because I literally had no opinion whatsoever on them.
1: I read Tean’s post, I just didn’t feel like I had any reason to reference it. Tean called your whole post filler whereas I thought only 40% of it was. Also, Tean asked you why you didn’t include everyone else in your reads post. I was more interested in why you included the null reads. Similar, but not similar enough for me. Not sure how my ignorance of Tean’s question is telling…
2: The bolded is exactly what I am confused about. You say that you excluded people from the list because you had no opinion whatsoever on them. But you had literally no opinion to provide on Mastin or Aneninen either. You said: “Mastin — null, need more input.” and “Aneninen — null, insufficient content”. You say those are players that you tried to read, but I don’t see why you would choose Aneninen (the player with ‘insufficient content’) specifically instead of players that had contributed more.
↑ mastin2 wrote:No comment on Tean, but I'll tip my hand slightly further and tell you beast's town.
Can you please explain? (if you haven’t already)
I explained in post 159. You’re either scum or insane if you think your extreme lack of contributions is evidence of a town role pm.
↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Wicked, how exactly is 'paying close attention to what's going on' a town-tell? I have noticed you used the same reasoning (Dave not paying attention) for Dave!Scum. Expand on this please.
Town’s goal is to figure out who scum are. Scum’s goal is just to appear like they’re trying to figure things out. Sure, all players have motivation to read the thread, but I think town have more incentive to be thorough in reading. I know that, personally, I pay much closer attention as town and I’m sure I miss more things when I am scum - I assume other players are similar. I get the impression that dodgy is town because he doesn’t have to be so thorough if mafia - he seems consistently interested and pointing out relevant things that I’ve noticed/agreed with. I have issue with dave’s lack of attention because paying close attention is how you find scum - it’s weird that dave would miss obvious things if he was really a townie on the case.
BBT wrote:What do you think of my thoughts on dodgy so far?
The only thoughts I see are in response to posts 94 and 122. Please let me know if I missed anything.
94: I disagree with your thoughts here. You thought his question was really scummy, I didn’t find it telling either way. I can see the town motivation for his question (curiosity regarding the setup mechanics and how to scum hunt in this specific setup) and really didn’t read it the same way you did.
122: I agree with your thoughts on this. This is a scummy thing for dodgy to say. Feels like he wants to join the bandwagon, BUT he also wants solid justification for joining, BUT he wants to leave himself the option not to join too. Curious how he defends this.
↑ copper223 wrote:@Wicked
Don't you think it's strange for Scum_Dave to antagonize players like Beast or Vettrock, currently not voting for him?
Where is he antagonizing Vettrock? I can’t find/remember it.
W.r.t. beast. I don’t think it’s strange for dave to antagonize beast. He had still been sitting on his random vote right before he voted beast. So he had to vote somebody. And while beast is suspicious, voting him is low risk at this point because, even if beast is town, he hasn’t been around. There’s also the possibility that dave and beast are partners, which I am currently considering. The vote presents very little danger to dave in that case too.
dodgy
, can you describe your amount of mafia experience prior to this game?
BBT
, you town read Tean. What do you think of
my
points against them?
Three more pages to go.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky"
-Wickedestjr
