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[Andrius]

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If mollie is actually a Food Tracker, that sounds like flavor for a Werewolf who tracks Food tbf. If anything it's worse because "Food the Tracker" (possibly) sounds like Mollie can't read rather than that she is claiming her scum flavorname.

Bloodhound makes sense. I like it, at least.

Granted, it doesn't really focus on the Food and the things Food create, but. Flavor only goes so far.

[VictorDeAngelo]

Andrius, Southern Gothic, PeregrineV, Iecerint, Pine, All is Who, VictorDeAngelo, Titus, Albert B. Rampage

^ We should lynch in there. While I suspect there's probably scum on and off the wagon, wagon analysis is more helpful.

So there was probably scum on the Day 1 wagon and probably some off the wagon. Explain to me again how this is helpful analysis?

I don't like how quickly Mollie claimed but I do not like how fast this SG wagon has formed either, especially since I can't see where she actually claimed "Food the Tracker" as Nacho claimed she did.

@Ice, ABR

- Other than the claim, do you have any other reasons for voting SG?

[Nachomamma8]

Dogs famous for tracking humans tracking werewolves instead?

[Nachomamma8]

Victor, gun to your head: Mollie-slot scum or town?

[VictorDeAngelo]

Gun to head - null.

I haven't seen anything particularly town, but I don't see what your getting at.

[Andrius]

Andrius, Southern Gothic, PeregrineV, Iecerint, Pine, All is Who, VictorDeAngelo, Titus, Albert B. Rampage

^ We should lynch in there. While I suspect there's probably scum on and off the wagon, wagon analysis is more helpful.

So there was probably scum on the Day 1 wagon and probably some off the wagon. Explain to me again how this is helpful analysis?

What I wanted to say, in fewer words.

Victor, that's not a town/scum response.

[Nachomamma8]

Gun to head - null.

I haven't seen anything particularly town, but I don't see what your getting at.

You don't need to see what I'm getting at to have an opinion.

[Iecerint]

I am not great at reading mollie, but I don't particularly think she's town. That plus the claim was sufficient for me to vote her.

Why did you target Pine?

[Southern Gothic]

Dogs famous for tracking humans tracking werewolves instead?

Why isn't she posting right now?

It appears rationality has gone out the window and the only thing that seems to matter here is something about 100% accuracy and mollie looked at you funny.

You asked me for my read, I gave my first impression because I'll have to find a few hours to do a write up. So what do you have to say about either of those reads?

[Southern Gothic]

Why did you target Pine?

I've already said this. Are you not reading?

[Iecerint]

Like, I just ctrl+f Pine'd your iso and all you do is call Pine town and criticize me for going along with Pine's claim (which, not clear why that's scummy, but, etc.).

[Iecerint]

From his early troll-ish behavior and the gambit I thought it was likely he was either scum feigning it to maintain a persona or a town special who knew he could get away with it because he had a claim up his sleeve. Either would have been a beneficial outcome. We could either catch him as scum making the kill or possibly confirm what he did later in the game if he were a special. It seemed like a higher payoff than just following a lurker.

OK.

I think basically this would be a clear lie if it weren't for the possibility of hydra dissonance, but OK!

[Southern Gothic]

Like, I just ctrl+f Pine'd your iso and all you do is call Pine town and criticize me for going along with Pine's claim (which, not clear why that's scummy, but, etc.).

Would you care to say when I said those things? As in, the date.

[VictorDeAngelo]

You don't need to see what I'm getting at to have an opinion.

But other than the premature claim, I don't see where your getting the rest of your case (Mollie not responding, the claim flavour being scummy) and the speed of the wagon gives me a bad feeling, but that in itself isn't really enough to find SG town.

[Iecerint]

Jan 3rd and Jan 5th

I am still waiting on konowa and flames!

cos the prod dodges when THAT IS WHO WE ARE LOOKING AT leave me uninspired.

pine is town for my own reasons.

I've been marathoning all of the avatar the last airbender episodes, will report back as a new man when I finish Season 3. I think Iec is a pretty horrible vote!

And would love to know why that's the best you could manage to come up with, actually.

I'm interested in talking about this because I thought the reaction was off myself.

There's a naiveté in Iec's posts in the wake of Pine's claim that I doubt he actually has. Pine's far and away the most trollish player here and he actually dropped some hints himself that the claim was fake (the hashtag in Post 299 for example). The lack of skepticism on Iec's part when he's otherwise proven to be fairly thoughtful stands out.

Also interested in why there's an Andrius wagon. I'll have to look into that.

Mollie did into a hissy fit with Pine re: Nacho in a later post, and you ask for his basis for believing something in one post.

[Southern Gothic]

the speed of the wagon gives me a bad feeling,

The traction the wagon gained based on a very specific and personal dynamic between Nacho and mollie and the inclusion of an excessive "the" in the claim is indeed odd. And I think Iec and Pine are the most likely scum taking advantage of it.

[Southern Gothic]

Jan 3rd and Jan 5th

And how many real time days was that away from the end of the first game day?

[VictorDeAngelo]

the speed of the wagon gives me a bad feeling,

The traction the wagon gained based on a very specific and personal dynamic between Nacho and mollie and the inclusion of an excessive "the" in the claim is indeed odd. And I think Iec and Pine are the most likely scum taking advantage of it.

I take that is the TTH head. TTH what do you think of Nacho?

[Iecerint]

It has nothing to do with the word "the" for me. <_<

My flavor name is more flavorful than something like "Food Tracker," which informs my not thinking it is very likely to be the flavor name.

Mollie is a player who I do not think would be very thoughtful about how she structures her fakeclaim, so I can see her making an error related to this kind of thing.

Like, for example, my inference would be, regardless of your alignment, that mollie simply remembered that she was a tracker and claimed as much without thinking about the details. So it's the doubling-down on it being in fact the flavor name that's relatively scummy.

The addition of "the" is similarly more consistent with the "mollie careless" explanation for the error, so that's definitely not the basis of voting you.

[Nachomamma8]

Dogs famous for tracking humans tracking werewolves instead?

Why isn't she posting right now?

It appears rationality has gone out the window and the only thing that seems to matter here is something about 100% accuracy and mollie looked at you funny.

You asked me for my read, I gave my first impression because I'll have to find a few hours to do a write up. So what do you have to say about either of those reads?

Didn't Mollie explain our dynamic to you already? What did she say about it?

[Iecerint]

Since Andy has already claimed to be some kind of PR, he should probably indicate whether his flavor name has the same implication as mine re: the likelihood of "Food Tracker" to mean simply "Food-aligned tracker."

That way, we won't get 5 players all soft-claiming PR by accident.

[Nachomamma8]

I brought those reads up because they aren't well defined in my mind and I'd like to see you to bring clarity to them. I hate hate hate Victor's "oh they're just null!" read on you + abr push earlier in the day so he's currently looking like a scumread as well.

[Nachomamma8]

You don't need to see what I'm getting at to have an opinion.

But other than the premature claim, I don't see where your getting the rest of your case (Mollie not responding, the claim flavour being scummy) and the speed of the wagon gives me a bad feeling, but that in itself isn't really enough to find SG town.

Do you think Iecerint is scum?

[Pine]

Victor dodging the question about Southern Gothic sounds like a scumbuddy waffling when they're not sure if their buddy is a sinking ship

[Southern Gothic]

Dogs famous for tracking humans tracking werewolves instead?

Why isn't she posting right now?

It appears rationality has gone out the window and the only thing that seems to matter here is something about 100% accuracy and mollie looked at you funny.

You asked me for my read, I gave my first impression because I'll have to find a few hours to do a write up. So what do you have to say about either of those reads?

Didn't Mollie explain our dynamic to you already? What did she say about it?

She did say that you can read each other with near perfect accuracy due to knowing each other fairly well. To me, involving ego's to the point of making 100% accuracy claims is deleterious to logic, though.