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[Albert B. Rampage]

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Nacho, what are your thoughts on Titus?

[Pine]

Potentional targets to role leak.

That is NOT what that target list business was about. The purpose of that was so that, after a Town flip, you could see who I targeted. That's an enormous misrep, if you're trying to portray it otherwise

Nacho, I'm waiting to hear why the Farside read is "terrible"

[Iecerint]

SG has yet to explain why she tracked pine after claiming a town read on the spot as well

No, they explained it, and they referred me back to it again when I complained that they hadn't explained it.

[farside22]

Iec: all I found were these two post.

they claimed they tracked Pine of all players,

Well I'm out of the loop, why was Pine a bad track?

I would think scum are likely going to use a less suspected team member to actually do the kill in order to avoid detection from trackers, so it seemed like the best candidate for the action would be someone with a chance of being scum but doesn't draw too many scumreads in the thread.

Jan 3rd and Jan 5th

And how many real time days was that away from the end of the first game day?

Neither explain where the scum read came from

[farside22]

Potentional targets to role leak.

That is NOT what that target list business was about. The purpose of that was so that, after a Town flip, you could see who I targeted. That's an enormous misrep, if you're trying to portray it otherwise

Nacho, I'm waiting to hear why the Farside read is "terrible"

It also gives scum info.
You are not that dumb.

[farside22]

Nacho: don't say shit to pine till he explain the supposed scum read he has

[Iecerint]

Here it is, alone with my commentary upon finding it:

From his early troll-ish behavior and the gambit I thought it was likely he was either scum feigning it to maintain a persona or a town special who knew he could get away with it because he had a claim up his sleeve. Either would have been a beneficial outcome. We could either catch him as scum making the kill or possibly confirm what he did later in the game if he were a special. It seemed like a higher payoff than just following a lurker.

OK.

I think basically this would be a clear lie if it weren't for the possibility of hydra dissonance, but OK!

[Pine]

Potentional targets to role leak.

That is NOT what that target list business was about. The purpose of that was so that, after a Town flip, you could see who I targeted. That's an enormous misrep, if you're trying to portray it otherwise

Nacho, I'm waiting to hear why the Farside read is "terrible"

It also gives scum info.
You are not that dumb.

It doesn't give anyone ANY info. You heard Southern Gothic. I didn't go anywhere. So exactly what information was I giving scum, except to participate in the shielding of actual PR actions?

It's misdirection aimed at scum, not at Town.

Nacho: don't say shit to pine till he explain the supposed scum read he has

I've explained all I care to. You're really hard to read, and it's taken a full day phase for me to develop a weak gut scumread on you. I've said this several times.

Your reaction to my scumread, however, reeks of fake outrage, and your every post makes me more comfortable with it. Additionally, Town!Farside would have been curious about my assertion that I can prove that I'm Town, and pursued it instead of ignoring at pushing an entirely reactive scum case against me.

Add to that your efforts to disrupt pro-Town information sharing like Townreads and potential PR targetlists, and it's a very suspicious pattern

[Pine]

That's not even mentioning the absolute shit amount of scumhunting I've seen coming from Farside this game

[farside22]

So what if I'm
Hard to read for you. I've done more scum hunting then you've implied.
I sure as shit called your bs case on four so why would I still not look at you.
If you could prove yourself, knock yourself out.
Lording over people's head as fact doesn't sway me till I see proof.

Giving town reads while asking for targets.
Hold on let's go ask a players who's been a doc before why that is a stupid fucking thing to do while soft claiming.
Abr: I'll turn that one to you since you've done it before.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What?

[farside22]

And no I'm not claiming a protective role FTR im making a point why I find it suspect

[farside22]

What?

Do you think soft claiming roles and giving town reads is a good idea?

[Shadowmod]

—VOTE COUNT—

Andrius

(1/6)

— farside22

farside22

(0/6) —

Pine

Albert B. Rampage

(2/6)

— Andrius, VictorDeAngelo

Southern Gothic

(4/6)

— Nachomamma8, Pine, Iecerint, Albert B. Rampage

All is Who

(1/6)

— PeregrineV

Not Voting (3/11): Southern Gothic, All is Who, Titus

With 11 players still alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch, 6 to force no lynch.

Day 2 deadline is (expired on 2015-01-27 18:00:00)

[Pine]

"My bullshit case on 4T?" You mean the one I back pedaled on and pushed a different lynch? Is that the best example you've got? You went with the Who wagon, which was always bullshit. Today you're voting Andy (without explanation) instead of your vote from yesterday while pushing an OMGUS case on me

[Albert B. Rampage]

What?

Do you think soft claiming roles and giving town reads is a good idea?

No, I think it gives scum information to manipulate night actions in their favor.

[Pine]

C Southern Gothic (pirate mollie + telltaleheart hydra)
D All is Who (Who + Jingle hydra)
J PeregrineV
B Gilgamesh King Of Heroes Flames682
I farside22
L: Andrius
R VictorDeAngelo
F Albert B. Rampage
M Iecerint
T Nachomamma8
S Pine
H Titus Konowa
K FourTrouble

The first letter, second word of my flavor name given a flip will correspond to my target, should I choose to target anyone.

Not to mention, you did it too. So clearly, you didn't misunderstand the purpose, or think it was giving scum information they could use against us.

The Townie way to object was to refuse to do it, like Who did

[farside22]

Right now, Who is the only other option, so if you have a 100% town-tell, this might be the time to explain.

No

And it's not an "I think maybe" 100%, I'm totally positive

Let's talk options

My crystal ball is saying Andrius. No, I don't have a solid case, at this point I'm reduced to moderately strong pure-gut reads. Anyone vigorously object?

Unvote
Vote Andrius

Your calling this a push?
No seriously. Are you?

Oh and I had Andy scum all fucking day 1 with who so what is your point pine?
How is my naked vote on Andy day 2 a surprised based on my day one thought?

[farside22]

C Southern Gothic (pirate mollie + telltaleheart hydra)
D All is Who (Who + Jingle hydra)
J PeregrineV
B Gilgamesh King Of Heroes Flames682
I farside22
L: Andrius
R VictorDeAngelo
F Albert B. Rampage
M Iecerint
T Nachomamma8
S Pine
H Titus Konowa
K FourTrouble

The first letter, second word of my flavor name given a flip will correspond to my target, should I choose to target anyone.

Not to mention, you did it too. So clearly, you didn't misunderstand the purpose, or think it was giving scum information they could use against us.

The Townie way to object was to refuse to do it, like Who did

I refused to give town reads after soft claiming, which your calling scummy.

[farside22]

Fars scum reads at the end of day 1
Someone lying about reading my ISO
Still needs to explain things better.

Well 4 scum reads at the end of day 1. I'll take it.

Just for fun moment:
Andy/who/titus. Victor is on that list too.

[farside22]

"My bullshit case on 4T?" You mean the one I back pedaled on and pushed a different lynch? Is that the best example you've got? You went with the Who wagon, which was always bullshit. Today you're voting Andy (without explanation) instead of your vote from yesterday while pushing an OMGUS case on me

Someone is a hypocrite about votes from day 1 not matching votes at the start of day 2

Did I miss the reason you changed reads on Andy.

Looks

Nope

[Pine]

I changed my read on Andy for a very good reason that I don't feel like sharing

[Albert B. Rampage]

Farside seems consistent with her previous posts to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pine, are you a neighbor?

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's been twice in two days that you said you have town reads on Who and Andrius and you don't want to say why.