Mini 1624: Joss Whedon Mafia: The Musical (Game Over)

[Murder of Crows]

I'm much less sure about Nacho though.

Who are you sure about?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

My thoughts were that the way Ffery pushed me earlier was so emotionally charged up it was beyond what I think she'd be able to fake as scum. The game makes the most sense if Nacho is scum manipulating town-Ffery because she's misreading me and taking her side to drive a mislynch on me. I townread Antihero and Metal Sonic. That leaves Boonskies and Egg who I'm not certain about.

VOTE: JesusBuddhaVrishnaTheBest

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

It is potentially Nacho/Boon or Nacho/Egg. I agree that the lack of pushing Egg when the IC was endorsing it felt scummy.

[Murder of Crows]

so basically you're not sure about any read? Or was that just a turn of phrase about nacho?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I'm not sure if you are trying to say I'm contradicting myself or something. At this point I think the scum is Nacho + Egg/Boon. If Nacho is not the strongman, it is pretty much Nacho/Egg with Egg as the strongman. If Nacho is the strongman, it could be either Egg or Boon. Metal is town. Anti is town. Serra is town. I'm town. If you are town, who's left?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I suppose it is possible Egg is the strongman and Boon is the other scum.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

But I feel just like I did in Tales wrt Nacho. This is not a gamestate that Nacho would allow to happen if he were town.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Well the obvious answer fypov is me but w/e. You are stuck on that read and have been on it since the point I replaced into the game.

[Murder of Crows]

I'm not sure if you are trying to say I'm contradicting myself or something. At this point I think the scum is Nacho + Egg/Boon. If Nacho is not the strongman, it is pretty much Nacho/Egg with Egg as the strongman. If Nacho is the strongman, it could be either Egg or Boon. Metal is town. Anti is town. Serra is town. I'm town. If you are town, who's left?

No I'm trying to figure you out. What you're doing doesn't make a lot of sense to me if you're scum. But, AP thinks there may be more appetite for a Jesus lynch than I"m seeing.

[Murder of Crows]

Well the obvious answer fypov is me but w/e. You are stuck on that read and have been on it since the point I replaced into the game.

This is not true. I've backed off over and over again. I keep thinking that if you're town our understanding of the game will eventually start to align.

Which is a dangerous way to think, and is easily manipulated. :/

AP is not seeing much in your play that reminds him of Tales-you.

And I really just can't fathom the tentativeness that you've approached this game with. It's like you're holding up a mirror. I feel like you've figured out some of the dimensions of the blind spots in my play that scum-Nacho likes to inhabit, but aren't nearly as smooth in settling into them.

[jesusbuddhavrishnathebest]

*steps forward*
For like the third time, that was Mara that had Egg as her top scumread.
*steps back*

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Who do you suspect to be my partner?

If I'm town, who's scum?

Your reads are difficult to describe. You have been wavering but honing in at the same time. Even though you seem to consider everyone, I can almost predict that you will come back to me whenever you re-evaluate the game. Also, demanding that I ought to have reads on Nacho and you is unreasonable considering the state of your own reads so far.

[Murder of Crows]

Who do you suspect to be my partner?

If I'm town, who's scum?

Your reads are difficult to describe. You have been wavering but honing in at the same time. Even though you seem to consider everyone, I can almost predict that you will come back to me whenever you re-evaluate the game. Also, demanding that I ought to have reads on Nacho and you is unreasonable considering the state of your own reads so far.

let's see. Dead players:

yonce town
regfan town
cabd town (eventually - he's probably the most paranoia inducing player I know)
mikuru scum (by mid-day 1 and in part due to Nacho's analysis of scum-AA9 in the FFX game)

Players we agree about (?):

Antihero-town (though I've had some nacho-induced wavers here at times.
boonskiies-who knows?
MS-slot (finally?)

Players we disagree about:

Egg
bodhi saatva

Players there's no argument to be had
serra


I'm going to try a reset and reread.

[serrapaladin]

I really think f16 is town... I should have some time to look at stuff tomorrow. I still think that egg is scum

[Murder of Crows]

I really think f16 is town... I should have some time to look at stuff tomorrow. I still think that egg is scum

We're at a crossroads. Ffery and I have found scum. You want to mislynch a town pr. If you had spent a fourth of the time we have figuring out the game, I might be patient. But I'm nit. Please vote for us or f16. I'm not going anywhere until we've lynched obvious scum. Please stop misreading try harding and fake paranoia as town.

I'm done waffling and I'm done being nice. Vote one of us.

[Murder of Crows]

Also if jesus could vote f16 already that'd be fantastic. I can't believe you trolls are still voting antihero.

[Murder of Crows]

I do feel the momentum shifts and I feel it is shifting against me. I've been feeling fatalistic all game because I felt like the town are moderately null-scum suspicious of me and you and Nacho kept the lynch away from me. Do you have any idea how much it feels like crap to think that the only reason I'm alive is because scum are keeping me alive? I wasn't ready to push hard because the entire vibe I've been getting from you was "if you push us, we will throw you to the wolves." Nacho is aware of this strategy. He showed me how to use it against Mina.

I don't understand how anything I've done this game prior to the last few hours has kept the lynch away from you.

I haven't actively pushed for your lynch most of the game. That's it.

[Metal Sonic]

i think that nachoslot is the scum in the equation and letting town eat itself alive with fferyslot vs f16 1v1

[Metal Sonic]

the scum PR that flipped is a mafia encryptor. good to know

[Metal Sonic]

Egg is one of my strongest candidates for scum. His interactions with flipped scum Mikiru is literally = HELLO I AM PROTECTING THE ENCRYPTOR



I read fferyslot's ISO to see her thoughts on Egg, apparently the only reason why they townread Egg is because of his claim. Roleblocker. Sounds a bit overpowered in a game with 3 scum, i think? Knock one scum and we have a semi-cop. What town utility does a role blocker have? Can't block the encryptor, probably not the strongman, so its only utility is a killstop, with a backfire if it hits a town PR. So negative town utility unless caught scum.


I haven't read the other ISOs yet, and I need to read Nachoslot in-depth. Mara is behaving a bit fishy on my initial skim.



uh, so anyway bottomline is Egg is really scummy, ignoring his claim

[Metal Sonic]

Players we disagree about:

Egg

okay, i need the explanation of this. The last page of your ISO gave me 73 results for Egg and all were them for "Egg town because claim"

[Murder of Crows]

Players we disagree about:

Egg

okay, i need the explanation of this. The last page of your ISO gave me 73 results for Egg and all were them for "Egg town because claim"

that was comparing my reads to f-16's reads. you missed some other reasons why I have townread him. one of the big reasons was his reaction to boonskiies lightning rod claim at the start of day 2.

I was going to reread f-16's iso tonight but I'm too tired. will do it in a few hours.

[serrapaladin]

Okay, let's lynch f16 today. When he flips town, we then lynch egg and murder.

[Metal Sonic]

Okay, let's lynch f16 today. When he flips town, we then lynch egg and murder.

The conftown has spoken

[Boonskiies]

I was under the impression that F-16 was super town...