@Wicked
↑ Wickedestjr wrote:I REALLY don’t like this. Blaming Heartless for not being able to read you when you deliberately alter your play? I would expect someone to scum read you for playing scummy on purpose. There’s another hole in your plan: “play scummy enough” and “survive to lylo” - those don’t go together. I think you should know that drastically altering your play as a pr is usually a bad thing. I don’t buy this.
And the crumb is ridiculous too. The phrases “have a good shot” and “gun to head” are both perfectly ordinary.
Vengeful is a good claim for scum because it’s not at all testable. Also, at this point in the game, even if you are town, your power has no benefit. It doesn’t increase the number of kills that town has control over - a vengekill would simply replace our day 2 lynch. But I’d much rather have a day 2 lynch.
TTH only has completed games with me as scum and this is not how I play it, so I did not alter my scum meta as far as she knows, I have played in what can superfically be classified as a scummy fashion by voting a lot of players and wagon hopping, did you see how many players I have been scumreading this game, basically everyone minus Beast, Tean and Vettrock, and those because of lack of content, and you because the way you have been analysing this game is pretty pro town so likely coming from a town as well, this is going to change right about now because I am on the same page as mastin with a team of:
Tean/Vettrock and my personal favourite Eyestott.
For your enjoyment this is my latest scumgame, where I have a 100% score:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=60122
Does that look in any way comparable to you?
As for your wagon comment on Eyestott, your point is I did not see the same, or worse, wagon dynamics going on with Eyes, I'm telling you I did not notice the same lack of resistance in his wagon that I got from Dave, if your interpretation is correct, likely because when Dave was getting driven to L-2 nothing else was going on, during the Eyestott wagon period we had other reads floating about like Heartless saying he liked Aneninen and Killa as scum, the absence of a vote count also made it harder to see how quickly Eyes was driven to L-2 the first time, after I left the wagon my main concern moved to TTH's case on Mastin and if she was onto something, until Killa erroneously put Eyes to L-1 and I went back to check on the Eyes play and found he was actively lurking, that sums it up for me.
As for the VCA being useless to you, it may be now, but once you get a flip on one of us please don't forget to check back on it, I also have the advantage of knowing my own alignment so it's more meaningful for me and I think it's unlikely all 3 wagons were on townies.
@All
If Eyestott is scum you should revisit Wicked as well, from his play alone he looks pretty town but he is defending him pretty strongly.