Mini 1630: Edgar Allan Poe uPick GAME OVER!

[CaskOfAmontillado]

Still, I'm doing a write-up on Ghatokaca and I need a little time. I'll take it.

[copper223]

My instincts are screaming that he is genuine

[copper223]

Plus if he tried that play at least some time to think about it out of respect is owed

[Bookitty]

Here is the reason I don't believe kthxbye at all.

Here are our living claims prior to Krystal's info post:

We have an X-shot vig. FTL never said he expended all his shots.
We have a jailkeeper.
We have an even night investigative.
We have a role that provides flip info after a death.

Why on earth would Krystal scum ever choose the last one to kamikaze? That would be LAST on my priority list in this game if I were scum.

Regardless of the drama presented by kthxbye, these are facts known to us. We can't know that the claims are true (though Brantz is in essence confirming FTL and vice versa). FTL seems like the most obvious target for this play by scum, but that's not how it went down.

The only person I can think of who could engineer something like this to confuse the town is copper. I don't think copper is scum here, so I'm going to call shenanigans on kthxbye for scum theater.

[CaskOfAmontillado]

My instincts are screaming that he is genuine

Tune it out. My instincts tell me stupid things all the time.
For instance, right now my instincts are screaming at me to stop drinking NyQuil and wine, but you don't see me listening to them.

[copper223]

fair enough.

[copper223]

VOTE: Kthx
It was still a great play!

[CaskOfAmontillado]

I hope I can finish this post before I keel over.

This writing is not going to be any good. Be warned, everyone.

[copper223]

^^

[Kthxbye]

I have to think about this because if you pulled the fake hammer as scum I want to shake your hand.

It obviously wasn't a hammer. There's a vote count on this page.

^^this

Though, copper, I'd love to be scum right now in order to take your compliment.

Why on earth would Krystal scum ever choose the last one to kamikaze?

Because it was fabricated last night. Also because getting such a 'minor' PR such as enabler is waaaay more simple (obviously) than getting a stronger claimed town PR lynched. Really Boo, you aren't even attempting to open up that closed mind. Not even a little. You are confirmation bias'ed and if you're town, you can apologize tomorrow, in dead QT, or at the end of the game.

My instincts are screaming that he is genuine

You should trust your instincts more. Talk to you more in dead QT.

[CaskOfAmontillado]

I think there's a better than good chance that Ghatokaca is scum.

First, I'd like to remind everyone of Post 246 where they refer to a previous game and say that they'll be laying off the posting for the beginning of the game. I'd also like to point out that it doesn't look like their activity has picked up recently. In fact, it's done the opposite, and supposedly they're now neighbors with Lynx who I could only imagine has

something

to say about the recent goings on. So there's that. They're not using their role in the way they claimed they would and they've got this power to relay what confirmed town has to say but we haven't heard the first word out of Lynx who

very likely

has something to say about the results from his own power.

You can say what you want about what kind of style Ghatokaca is going for here, but the early contributions are very splotchy and take swipes at little things whilst not really furthering the overall efforts. Post 301 is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. We see these devils advocate, snippy responses such as "Calling people jester can be scummy for a multitude of reasons, but saying that it's "discrediting lynch and blaming the wagon on him" isn't even close to one of them, unless you'd be happy explaining this a little bit." and "Bookitty is town, yes. This isn't why she's town." and "This post sucks." that are argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative and my best guess is that he wants to argue things in order to avoid setting off alarm bells by looking too agreeable. Because otherwise, there's really no explanation for his behavior as it really doesn't work towards clearer or more refined reads.

The people they end up pushing is also bad. I'm talking about the push on us and the push on BRantz in Post 304. From the consistency of the writing style, I'm guessing it's actually only one of the heads that authoring the vast majority of the posts and, further, I'm guessing it's Nachomamma8, but that's not really relevant. Anyway, moving right along. The pushes are bad and have a distinct stiff, rigid, clenched anus feel about them that usually emanates from scum pushes. It's qualified with the disclaimer about how he could be town for the read on TierShift, but it doesn't really make any sense given they were kind of scumreading TierShift at the time. Post 305 was a swipe at my Bookitty scumread but while he spent most of the real estate in the post negging on the weakest part of my case, he

agreed

with the strongest part which was that, in the general trend of Bookitty's ISO, her reads remained fairly undeveloped despite consistent activity.

The response to Lynx's reveal of his power was also terribly anti-town. He pretty much stayed on the sidelines taking potshots at everyone else while not giving any constructive feedback on who should be on the wagon or how to determine who should be on the wagon. In Post 508, he criticized my idea of making it random and then he proceeds to ... not give any suggests for how to guide who should be on the wagon, and therefore

it might as well have been random.

It's all philosophical lip service and being a contrarian just for the sake of it.

Then we get to the three today's posts. The worst one was Post 711 which, aside from only serving to shut down a perfectly legitimate discussion, is blatantly untrue. ffery did

not

explicitly say there was exactly one scum on the wagon and Catastrophe was right to worry about the precision of the language in the mod flip. That's not something to be glossed over and them acting like it is does not serve a pro-town agenda.

I think Ghatokaca is closed-minded, makes himself scarce, and chooses not to devote energy in discussions of much importance because he's scum.

Before anyone hammers, I actually want to hear what Lynx has to say about anything, if nothing else to force Ghatokaca to at least make something up.

[CaskOfAmontillado]

Actually, copper, could you be a dear and unvote until Ghato shows up? I'd really appreciate that. ^_^

[copper223]

UNVOTE:
after you shamed me into re-voting? Your manipulation of me is outrageous TTH!

[copper223]

@Mod
prod request on Ghato if they don't post today, thanks!

[CaskOfAmontillado]

I also would like to hear from Medea while we're at it because I think they've had a similar "stick up the ass" approach to the game that I associate with scum.

Hi guys, cabd head of medea here letting you know that fevers suck, and not to expect real content out of either of us until our fevers come down. It's been a rough weekend, and with AP here as our guest, he takes priority until he flies out tomorrow afternoon.

(Completely jealous that you got to meet AP.)

[CaskOfAmontillado]

UNVOTE:
after you shamed me into re-voting? Your manipulation of me is outrageous TTH!

Oh shush you! >:|

I really

want

to look over TSO but I might fall out of my chair and fall asleep on the floor before then.

[copper223]

His ISO is not going anywhere, have a nap.

[CaskOfAmontillado]

v_v

*keels over*
*hits the floor*

[Faster Than Light]

I'm going to be flying in a few planes tomorrow, so if I'm not around it's because of infinite delays OR the plane crashed and I am dead. Or scavenging off the remains of other people in the jungle we crashed in. Something like that.
-V

[fferyllt]

Ghatokaca has been prodded.

[Ghatokaca]

Responding to the prod. I'm a behind on this game and will likely find a block of time to catch up tomorrow so will post my thoughts then unless there's something to address right away.

[copper223]

See 1085

[TierShift]

I think some of the points coa makes are weak but I agree with the general concensus of the post.

[Bookitty]

I'm going to be out for all of this morning and possibly the whole day. I'm not ignoring this thread; I just won't be near a computer.

I'm not setting V/LA for one day (I don't even know if I can) but please consider it that way for now.

Interested to see what Ghato has to say.

[CaskOfAmontillado]

Responding to the prod. I'm a behind on this game and will likely find a block of time to catch up tomorrow so will post my thoughts then unless there's something to address right away.

Updates from Lynx. It should only take a few minutes to paraphrase.