Open 581: Making Friends and Enemies! (Game over)

[Green Crayons]

I disagree with both of you. The people who were online voted. I can't see how it is alignment indicative at all.

Except for Mala, eh?

Follow up: and Picard.

[Green Crayons]

^^^ Oh, and elle.

Final Vote count
Day 1.13

Players alive: 13

Players needed to lynch: 7

CorpsesInEthanol

- 1 - Riddleton - (L-6)

elleheathen

- 1 - CorpsesInEthanol - (L-6)

Grib

- 1 -

NJAC

- (L-6)

NJAC

- 7 - Kaboose,

Cheetory6

, Green Crayons, Lone Ranger, Grib, davesaz, Whatisswag - (L-0) (LYNCH!)

Whatisswag

- 1 - CptPicard - (L-6)

Players not voting: elleheathen, MalaKittens

Mod notes:

Still looking for replacements for CorpsesInEthanol and Riddleton.
Cheetory6 is V/LA.
Green Crayons is V/LA

- Non-NJAC voters: Riddle/Titus, Corpses/Heartless, NJAC, Picard, elle, Mala.
- Non-NJAC voters who are confirmed town: NJAC
- Non-NJAC voters who were not being replaced and therefore could have voted NJAC: Picard, elle, Mala.

Out of those three, Mala is most suspicious for the slot's hedging/fencesitting. If scum didn't want to be on a D1 town lynch, I think it would be her.

[Green Crayons]

@elle:

were you still voting me at the time of the deadline? Skimming your ISO, I see your vote, no unvote, but you're marked as not voting.

[Green Crayons]

^^^ Nevermind, just read the entire end of the day. I wanted to see your reasons for not voting anyone in your unvote post, but I see that you were in fact voting me and Armageddon just never caught it.

[Whatisswag]

Ok I just solved the game using wagon analysis, mason analysis and scum analysis.

Kaboose, Green Crayons and

Lone ranger is town, cptpicard is town, dave is town, I am town, Grib is town, Heartless is town

Mala, titus, elle are the possible left candidates for the final scum.

So I believe it is Kaboose, Green Crayons and elle.

VOTE: Kaboose

it was quite nice playing in this game.

[Whatisswag]

I bet my lynch on the fact that there is at least one scum within Kaboose and Green.

[Whatisswag]

Actually it should be kaboose, green crayons and mala. I think that is kind of more suitable.

[Whatisswag]

I am happy with kaboose being lynched on this page.

[Heartless]

D'awwww... Yeah, I was mean.

I'm sorry, Gribby. Sometimes I just kind of say things and they don't really come out right. Either that, or it's that really I'm kind of a bitch and I just don't filter myself when I should. I haven't figured it out yet. :S

STAHP

your not a bitch, and grib COMPLETELY has a stick up his ass

i missed the thing you quoted though........ that actually does kind of explain things

[Heartless]

greencrayon's "who was on anyway?" shtick is actually really frickin' scummy b/c it's a good way to look busy while not actually accomplishing jack shit

[Green Crayons]

Other than the conclusion.

[Heartless]

@Heartless:

why is Kaboose scum?

^^^^^^also, there's no follow up to this^^^^^^^

tth bothered to give him the write up and he didn't say shit and opted to go for the red herring conversation elle was having about the last second wagon, which more has to do w/ scumhunting philosophy anyway not alignment

[Green Crayons]

Has Kaboose responded to TTH's case and I missed it?

[Heartless]

Other than the conclusion.

the conclusion being what? that scum were actually off the wagon? how self-serving

and this is based on the presmise scum would town mislynch for them at deadline? you could argue with just as much validity that scum would take the zero accountability mislynch b/c of this site's aversion to no-lynches. it cuts both ways.

[Green Crayons]

Do you mean to say

That scum would be both off and on the deadline wagon

Like I said?

[Heartless]

Has Kaboose responded to TTH's case and I missed it?

lol there has to be a response before you evaluate a case?

[Green Crayons]

^^^ Oh, and elle.

Final Vote count
Day 1.13

Players alive: 13

Players needed to lynch: 7

CorpsesInEthanol

- 1 - Riddleton - (L-6)

elleheathen

- 1 - CorpsesInEthanol - (L-6)

Grib

- 1 -

NJAC

- (L-6)

NJAC

- 7 - Kaboose,

Cheetory6

, Green Crayons, Lone Ranger, Grib, davesaz, Whatisswag - (L-0) (LYNCH!)

Whatisswag

- 1 - CptPicard - (L-6)

Players not voting: elleheathen, MalaKittens

Mod notes:

Still looking for replacements for CorpsesInEthanol and Riddleton.
Cheetory6 is V/LA.
Green Crayons is V/LA

- Non-NJAC voters: Riddle/Titus, Corpses/Heartless, NJAC, Picard, elle, Mala.
- Non-NJAC voters who are confirmed town: NJAC
- Non-NJAC voters who were not being replaced and therefore could have voted NJAC: Picard, elle, Mala.

Out of those three, Mala is most suspicious for the slot's hedging/fencesitting. If scum didn't want to be on a D1 town lynch, I think it would be her.

This conclusion.

[Heartless]

Do you mean to say

That scum would be both off and on the deadline wagon

Like I said?

probably, but it's still an arbitrary way to judge as the distribution is likely random (who was on at deadline is p close to random)

i could see them all being on the wagon just as easily as all of them being off. scumhunting from a particular group because of this assertion there's X-number of them in such-and-such group is a bad approach

[Green Crayons]

Has Kaboose responded to TTH's case and I missed it?

lol there has to be a response before you evaluate a case?

lol I like to see how someone responds to a case before voicing judgement.

[Green Crayons]

Do you mean to say

That scum would be both off and on the deadline wagon

Like I said?

probably, but it's still an arbitrary way to judge as the distribution is likely random (who was on at deadline is p close to random)

i could see them all being on the wagon just as easily as all of them being off. scumhunting from a particular group because of this assertion there's X-number of them in such-and-such group is a bad approach

Not disagreeing.

That's why I'm not saying Mala is scum because she wasn't on the NJAC wagon.

[Heartless]

Boys, stop this. Get along.

[Heartless]

alright, read the kaboose case and i think it might be accounted for by style (though the backpedal she was talking about is really fucking weird and the pointedness in his responses to scumreads reads like butthurt caught scum)

tth is a lot smarter than i am and she has a knack for catching scum in my blind spot so vote stays

[Titus]

@GC/Heartless, you determine where precisely scum are by determining their actions at the time. You'd have to break it down supposing that Elle is scum and Elle is town.

Given the fact I read Elle as town as well, I'm thinking the group has a case of groupthink led by scum. That's why I want to focus on the four that flipped over to vote Elle.

Swag has provided no content that makes any reasonable sense. He just posted 5+ posts right now but they contain nothing. He solved the game using wagon analysis... that's just not possible. Nor does he say how he did it because its obviously shit. He says a bunch of baseless townreads (Hellooo buddying...) but yet had zero. It's day 2, we ain't PoEing this shit. His townreads also make no logical sense. He's postulating that the scum had little to no influence on a deadline flashwagon on town. That doesn't jive at all.

He claims Elle was town because of mysterious vague actions, that he said he'd get to later. Most players state what they see as town and then back it up later. Look at his so called reason.. "scum wouldn't be careful", are you kidding me? This sounds like scum desperately trying to fake their own content rather than an actual belief. He just labels 850 town because of a theory observation. Again, totally stretching. Anyone can do an if then else statement.

Elle is town but #1023 is a huge fucking whiteknight.

@GC, Was Mala VLA at deadline? I know she's been at Disney but I haven't really been keeping track.

[Heartless]

i'm gonna' go do some pleasure reading of old kaboose games, see ya' in a little bit

[Heartless]

i didn't learn jack shit