Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[acryon]

Let's keep in mind we don't get to pick which role is purchased in the tier, it's random. We probably

won't

get cop if we buy Tier 1.

Buy: Tier 3

True story. Tier 3 gets us either a Vig or a JK. And Tier 1 gets us a 1/3 chance of a cop and a 2/3 chance of a crappy cop.

[kiwieagle]

Why do people dismiss Tier 2???
We need the doctors and the bodyguards...

BUY TIER 2

Also, maybe I haven't understood but everyone who bought a tier rolls for that specific tier right?
Damn if true we need more Tier 2, we need to hide the protective role

[kiwieagle]

Also


Bankai and ABR.

[House]

And we won't necessarily get vig if we vote tier 3, so...

[acryon]

And we won't necessarily get vig if we vote tier 3, so...

JK is also quite good.

Why do people dismiss Tier 2???
We need the doctors and the bodyguards...

BUY TIER 2

Also, maybe I haven't understood but everyone who bought a tier rolls for that specific tier right?
Damn if true we need more Tier 2, we need to hide the protective role

From what I understand it just goes to the person who has the highest roll. Regardless of what they voted for, it is up to what the town collectively votes for.

And you don't catch scum with protective roles.

[elusive]

My question is that is it possible for scum to get the gear? Since it states randomly chosen based on a roll, does that mean an ungeared scum could get the item\power? Or did I miss something?

Also, vigilante always better than cop. Scum can mess with cop powers if they have abilities whereas there's something beautiful about that lone vigilante making a hard choice and taking someone down.

Buy: Tier 3

[acryon]

My question is that is it possible for scum to get the gear? Since it states randomly chosen based on a roll, does that mean an ungeared scum could get the item\power? Or did I miss something?

I think they can, although I'm not sure. But given the odds, I think we just have to choose what's best for town either way.

[elusive]

Oh and Jailor is awesome too and can seriously help win a game. Does jailor in this version have a "execute" function?

[elusive]

Vote: Nero Cain

Dangerous to whom?

[TroubledTownie]

My question is that is it possible for scum to get the gear? Since it states randomly chosen based on a roll, does that mean an ungeared scum could get the item\power? Or did I miss something?

No, it will only go to an Ungeared Raider, which is pro-town.

When gear has been bought it will go to the Ungeared Raider with the highest-roll on a d100 loot system.

Scum might start with gear(raid bosses or something like that), or have a similar loot-buying system that takes place at night. The latter would have some interesting implications on scumhunting when you review someone's early behavior.

[acryon]

Oh and Jailor is awesome too and can seriously help win a game. Does jailor in this version have a "execute" function?

My understanding is that it's functionally a jailkeeper.

@Mod: Could we get working definitions of the roles we can roll on?

[House]

My question is that is it possible for scum to get the gear? Since it states randomly chosen based on a roll, does that mean an ungeared scum could get the item\power? Or did I miss something?

Also, vigilante always better than cop. Scum can mess with cop powers if they have abilities whereas there's something beautiful about that lone vigilante making a hard choice and taking someone down.

Buy: Tier 3

And if scum gets the vig shot?

[House]

My question is that is it possible for scum to get the gear? Since it states randomly chosen based on a roll, does that mean an ungeared scum could get the item\power? Or did I miss something?

No, it will only go to an Ungeared Raider, which is pro-town.

When gear has been bought it will go to the Ungeared Raider with the highest-roll on a d100 loot system.

Scum might start with gear(raid bosses or something like that), or have a similar loot-buying system that takes place at night. The latter would have some interesting implications on scumhunting when you review someone's early behavior.

Where do you get this idea?

Unless the mod specifically states scum can't get gear, that's a dangerous assumption to make.

We're all in the same "guild", so from the way I see it the gear could go to any one of us.

[TroubledTownie]

I'm assuming the scum roles have a different name than the town roles.

[acryon]

I'm assuming the scum roles have a different name than the town roles.

That's an interesting assumption.

[Nero Cain]

JK is also quite good.

and why is that better than an investigation?

[acryon]

JK is also quite good.

and why is that better than an investigation?

I don't necessarily think it's better than an investigation, but I definitely think a 50/50 JK/Vig is better than a 1/3 chance at a cop or the others.

[TroubledTownie]

I'm assuming the scum roles have a different name than the town roles.

That's an interesting assumption.

This is my first theme game, but isn't that always the case? I've never played a game where the opposing alignments had the same role title.

[acryon]

I'm assuming the scum roles have a different name than the town roles.

That's an interesting assumption.

This is my first theme game, but isn't that always the case? I've never played a game where the opposing alignments had the same role title.

Well mod said we were all in the same guild, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to think even scum would be "ungeared raiders" that were scum-sided.

[Nero Cain]

Vote: Nero Cain

vig is more likely to hit to than scum. I just feel as if town is better served with investigations early on.

[acryon]

Vote: Nero Cain

vig is more likely to hit to than scum. I just feel as if town is better served with investigations early on.

That's not unreasonable, but do you think a 1/3 chance at cop is better than a 50/50 chance of Vig/JK?

[Xombie]

Buy: Tier 3

Everything else is boring

[Nero Cain]

no but that's also a stupid question. Obviously 50/50 are better odds than 33% but the question is which kind of powers serve town the best.

[TroubledTownie]

Well mod said we were all in the same guild, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to think even scum would be "ungeared raiders" that were scum-sided.

Alright, I obviously hadn't considered that, thanks to you and House for pointing it out.

[acryon]

no but that's also a stupid question. Obviously 50/50 are better odds than 33% but the question is which kind of powers serve town the best.

That's not a stupid question. 50/50 odds might as well be a 0% chance if it's something you don't want. It's the probability combined with the power/usefulness of the role. It's a legitimate question.