Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[eyestott]

Is this your first game here, bankai? How much experience do you have?

[House]

All of the tier two abilities can prevent their target being nightkilled.
Trouble is, how do we knew Theyre confirmed town?

Bang bang or copfirm.

[bankaikiller]

Is this your first game here, bankai? How much experience do you have?

A bit from other forums.

[GGG]

I think those wanting vig shot are tunnel-visioned on the best case scenario... it landing on a player equipped to use it.

But then, what if it doesn't? I can think of a couple people (myself included) that I wouldn't want to have the vig shot, especially in the early game.

It's a double-edged sword, but it seems some folks only want to look at possible benefits without considering the drawbacks of a bad vig.

It's not like the vig can out themselves and ask for advice & protection... there's no doctor!

Regardless of whether we buy T1 or T3, T2 should be tomorrow's vote. If we luck out and land a doctor, our first PR can out themselves for conf town & ask for protection. Though how we'd know without exposing the doc, I'm fuzzy on. =/

From what I can tell only the person who gets equipped finds out what we got so a follow the cop strategy doesn't work.

[acryon]

I would have fun with t3 but night 1 vig idiot es no bueno

I agree with the last part, it's risky

But so is a 1/3 for a decent role as opposed to a 2/2 on great roles

Agreed.

buy tier 1

Until we flip a goon we don't want to risk the Vig.

I don't like eyestott early. He seems to be fishing both in his gnome post and in his follow up.

VOTE: eyestot

Part of me wants to agree, but the other part feels like this is a reach.

Oh and eyestott are you a Sylar fan or also a Zachary Quinto fan?

Asking the important questions.

Regardless of whether we buy T1 or T3, T2 should be tomorrow's vote. If we luck out and land a doctor, our first PR can out themselves for conf town & ask for protection. Though how we'd know without exposing the doc, I'm fuzzy on. =/

I was going through a similar scenario in my head, but it just doesn't work. The randomness of the rolls is interesting to work around, but ultimately it means we can't really plan for anything like that. I think we have to assume worst-case scenario for each tier and decide based on that.

[House]

Regardless of whether we buy T1 or T3, T2 should be tomorrow's vote. If we luck out and land a doctor, our first PR can out themselves for conf town & ask for protection. Though how we'd know without exposing the doc, I'm fuzzy on. =/

I was going through a similar scenario in my head, but it just doesn't work. The randomness of the rolls is interesting to work around, but ultimately it means we can't really plan for anything like that. I think we have to assume worst-case scenario for each tier and decide based on that.

This makes sense.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The only meaningful PR is the vig.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Tangible results that we can immediately see.

[acryon]

The only meaningful PR is the vig.

I'm assuming this is hyperbolic, but we do seem to agree on its usefulness more than most others.

[elusive]

Rampage's single-mindedness sort of freaks me out a bit.

Unvote Tier Thing

acronym, my usual approach is to ask a ton of questions, some game related and some not, and get a "voice" for each player to intuit off but you're lucky I've decided to try being more analytic this game.

What are you an acronym for or of?

[elusive]

oh wow I totally say acronym instead of acryon, revised question: what does your user name stand for?

[acryon]

Rampage's single-mindedness sort of freaks me out a bit.

Unvote Tier Thing

acronym, my usual approach is to ask a ton of questions, some game related and some not, and get a "voice" for each player to intuit off but you're lucky I've decided to try being more analytic this game.

What are you an acronym for or of?

Lol, it's "acryon", not "acronym." And Acryon was just my first and main WoW character's name, and I just it because I thought it sounded like a cool fantasy name. Turns out no one can spell it or pronounce, and instead I get called acronym and crayon.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm just like that elusive, what do you expect of me?

[acryon]

Edit: It's okay. I have seen no less than 10 misspellings of my username on MS.

[House]

Rampage's single-mindedness sort of freaks me out a bit.

Unvote Tier Thing

acronym, my usual approach is to ask a ton of questions, some game related and some not, and get a "voice" for each player to intuit off but you're lucky I've decided to try being more analytic this game.

What are you an acronym for or of?

Lol, it's "acryon", not "acronym." And Acryon was just my first and main WoW character's name, and I just it because I thought it sounded like a cool fantasy name. Turns out no one can spell it or pronounce, and instead I get called acronym and

crayon

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Crayon. I like it.

[acryon]

Crayon. I like it.

Noooooo. That's what one of my previous raid guilds always called me.

[elusive]

Crayon. I like it.

Noooooo. That's what one of my previous raid guilds always called me.

Acryon ( we can do this properly although "a crayon" is kind of cute with all the puns and stuff you could make) Do you agree with Rampage on the Tier thing and if so why?

Rampage, I expect nothing and everything. If the scum can get geared from town or if their tokens depend on town tokens then do you have any thoughts on that aspect? In a world where irony happens I imagine you being the first person to be vig killed.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If the scum can get geared from town or if their tokens depend on town tokens then do you have any thoughts on that aspect?

I doubt the former would happen. The latter is equally doubtful and can be applicable to any role.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Having a cop investigate a godfather is far more destructive to town than having a vig shoot a bulletproof mafia. Hence tier 3 is the safest bet and the most productive to get right away.

[acryon]

Crayon. I like it.

Noooooo. That's what one of my previous raid guilds always called me.

Acryon ( we can do this properly although "a crayon" is kind of cute with all the puns and stuff you could make) Do you agree with Rampage on the Tier thing and if so why?

I believe that Tier 3 is the best option. I think that a 50% chance of either JK or Vig is overall better for the town than a 33% chance of Doc or the weaker alternatives. Yes, vig is risky, but it is also very powerful. I don't necessarily agree with the apparent sentiment that the other roles are useless in comparison to Vig, or even that Vig is multiple leagues better, but I do think given the options, Tier 3 is the best for town.

[elusive]

In all likelihood I still vote for Tier 3 for reasons already outlined, just want to think about scum side stuff that other people mentioned. I don't like Tier 2, requires too much guesswork and chance. Also, 1/3 chance of doc means how would you even confirm that there was a doc so that a cop could come forward? I guess the other two could sort of protect the cop but idk seems iffy. Maybe as a 3rd-4th day thing. Tier 1, maybe but 1/3 chance for cop doesn't seem as good as 1/2 for jailer or vig. I guess we could do Tier 1 and Tier 3 or vice versa.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Scum fear the vig. That's why they don't want to buy it.

[acryon]

Scum fear the vig. That's why they don't want to buy it.

There's obviously some of this coming from town as well, but I wouldn't be shocked if there were at least a couple scum among those against it.

[Nero Cain]

an infinitive shot vig is p cool and yes, it will have seeable results but no way are we vigging each night. An investigation we WILL be using each night and therefore I think its the best one to have early. And honestly? Its not like we don't get to buy again so we can buy a potential vig if we want tomorrow. This whole "we have to buy it TODAY!" seems quite silly. Between ABR and elusive I can't tell if they are trigger happy town or scum that wants a vig to help them. Even if they don't control the vig it produces dead bodies and that's what scum need. dead bodies. But I actually like a few things that elusive has said so ABR is our d1 lynch you guys.

vote:ABR

[elusive]

Oh a fun question for all players, town. Scum don't have to answer if they don't want to but I'd love town to respond:

If you could vigilante kill anyone in the game right now, who would you day murder and why?