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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:55 pm

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GGG wrote:@elusive

The colour seems like a look at how cheery i am i could never be scum ATE type thing. Do you have other games on site that you do this regardless of role

The main problem i have is the fluff questions that distract. How would the answers to any of those questions help you find scum


GGG, why did you vote elusive for distracting comments and using color(I mean, really? That's worse than handwriting-analysis scammers. It's just a color.) over the one person you've mentioned as acting scummy?
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:00 pm

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elusive wrote:

Secondly, I intuit. I'm actually learning some logic now hence the probability interest but its not my natural thing. I like vibes and knowing people helps me idk "vibe" them out. I am trying not to rely on this but its the more natural thing for me to do.


Intuition gets a bad rap sometimes. The subconscious mind is very powerful, it should neither be ignored nor blindly followed. (When the intuition is about something that is information-based, that is. If it's based on something that there is no information for, then it's always exactly as accurate as guessing).

Along those lines, I'm getting good vibes from you.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:10 pm

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I think Bankai killer is emotional because that seems to be a part of his last game (I heard ABR mention it I believe) where he *apparently* got train-wrecked early and freaked out and spilled the beans on a fellow scum.

So I think the most likely players to be scum are:

ABR (I'm sticking to my analysis)
Bankai (I find it hard to trust someone who is an easy-to-press snitch)
GGG (It may sound weird, but I would expect someone who distrusts me so much to vote for me and not someone seemingly random)


Everyone else seems a lot closer to the null in this early stage. The first round of lynching will explain a lot, and if I survive I can continue to construct more detailed analyses.

Also, I agree with the above post on intuition. I start all of my analyses on my gut and try to rationalize. I like elusive too, the positive attitude is welcoming. However, my over-skeptic attitude makes me kinda wary about that -- Realistically speaking, if you are nervous about everyone around you, you don't typically become their "buddies" and be a friend figure. I mean, it's a stretch, and I know everyone likes a nice person, but this isn't a nice person group, considering some people are trying to kill us!
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:14 pm

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Ozgin wrote:I think Bankai killer is emotional because that seems to be a part of his last game (I heard ABR mention it I believe) where he *apparently* got train-wrecked early and freaked out and spilled the beans on a fellow scum.


Why are you emphasizing apparently? It is fact. Your attempt at discrediting me is scummy as anything I've ever seen. Everything about you is smarmy and the town should rally to vote you.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:15 pm

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Lynch me next if Ozgin flips town. GO.
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:16 pm

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ABR, what is your case on me?
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:17 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Ozgin wrote:I think Bankai killer is emotional because that seems to be a part of his last game (I heard ABR mention it I believe) where he *apparently* got train-wrecked early and freaked out and spilled the beans on a fellow scum.


Why are you emphasizing apparently? It is fact. Your attempt at discrediting me is scummy as anything I've ever seen. Everything about you is smarmy and the town should rally to vote you.



I'm emphasizing the word apparently because I WASN'T THERE AND I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

Everything is an alarm for suspicion with you. You wonder why I accuse you at the top of my list.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:18 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Lynch me next if Ozgin flips town

I *might* consider a OZ lynch if you flip town.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:22 pm

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I'm also pretty excited that this game is happening right when I got back into SWTOR
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:24 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Lynch me next if Ozgin flips town. GO.


I see you've resorted to bargaining.

Typical of scum. I'm almost at a 75% confidence interval that you really are scum..
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:26 pm

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At the
least
he's detrimental, anti-town but

UNVOTE: bankai

I think ABR may be calling it right. That, or I'm just falling for a 'too obvious to be scum' thing.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:26 pm

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Also,
Unvote: Tier 3


Because recent events pretty much just sealed the whole 'vig in the wrong hands' argument.

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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:27 pm

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what event?
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:29 pm

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I'm interested in lynching Nero or Ozgin today.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:35 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:what event?


Really? That should be obvious given my previous posts.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:38 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm interested in lynching Nero or Ozgin today.

3rd times a charm, what is your case son?
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:45 pm

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You received a scum role pm.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:55 pm

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LIES!!!

I am envoking the
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:19 pm

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Thank you TroubledTownie, I think the difficult part is putting "intuition" with a case. In previous games, I've vibed a person as scum out but haven't been able to convince town to lynch them based on that so def. needing to find the solid evidence from posts.

Ozgin, you missed some of my interactions this game if you assumed I am being nice. Although, its funny to be accused of being nice for once instead of sassy or salty or otherwise Moody. In terms of your style or voice, I would state "artificial" or "somewhat patronizing."

Also, how does his bargaining make him seem scum? If anything it makes him seem town. He's so certain of his reads that he's willing to die for them tomorrow if they don't pan out. And I, for one, would hold a player to that kind of bargain.

Nero, what are you reads on other players. Who are your three scumspects? Particular things Rampage has stated or done feel town even if he's also got this Weirdness. I still want to see what others have to say about his meta. Does Rampage usually play like this? Still, I don't think he's a good lynch for today.
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Umm, Xombie, I see your point although it would be hilarious.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:31 pm

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Umm, Xombie, I see your point although it would be hilarious.


Funny, but a loss. lol
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:06 pm

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I really don't like the push on elusive because fluff is scum? Or even worse, color? Seriously?
Nero Cain wrote:
elusive wrote:1. Where is your avatar from and why did you choose it?

2. Where is your user name from and why did you choose it?

3. What is your mafia experience?

4. Highest accomplishment or most proud moment for you in a mafia game?

5. Saddest moment for you in a mafia game?

:igmeou:

We are in the midst of the game, why are you asking irrelevant questions here?

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Also I refuse to answer those questions.
Heres a tip.
They only serve to distract and are pointless.

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Nero Cain wrote:Why are you asking them NOW? Like my point is that if you wanted to get to know ppl you could have asked those same questions early game. But we are now getting into the thick of the game so I feel like you asking some questions that have nothing to do with the game is sort of a derailment.

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Dont like elusive color or his distracting from the task at hand

I don't know which I like worse here. The tentative push. The backup. The clarification. The sheeping. Yuck.

Painting a slot as scummy and accusations of derailment because they're trying to enjoy a game? It would be one thing if that was all elusive has done up until now but it isn't.

It's also scummy because you can see that elusive actually uses it in the context of the game to relate to actions she may take based on how people answer these, as per her response to me.

And it's also singling elusive out as if they're the only player who has posted fluff, when I know just from my own posting how untrue that is.

At least elusive's questions got people talking as opposed to useless posts like:
Nero Cain wrote:I'm also pretty excited that this game is happening right when I got back into SWTOR

kiwieagle wrote:man I hope Fate is still playing he was a fun guy

or Sylvanas forbid, arguments about COLORS.

Like.

Might as well just lynch crayon because he could be any color.

Or no color because he's really acryon. :eek:
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:27 pm

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Zombie, talk to me about your ABR read?
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:34 pm

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TroubledTownie wrote:
GGG wrote:@elusive

The colour seems like a look at how cheery i am i could never be scum ATE type thing. Do you have other games on site that you do this regardless of role

The main problem i have is the fluff questions that distract. How would the answers to any of those questions help you find scum


GGG, why did you vote elusive for distracting comments and using color(I mean, really? That's worse than handwriting-analysis scammers. It's just a color.) over the one person you've mentioned as acting scummy?


Umm did you read the second part. Her line of questioning does nothing to help us find scum but makes it look like she's participating that is scummy.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:43 pm

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All fluff is scummy, as long as it's in an innocent color. Got it.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:50 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:Zombie, talk to me about your ABR read?


Abrasive town using votes and comments to sort by reaction.
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