Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ozgin - I don't bring this kind of passion to my scum game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's not the same when you know who the scum are.

[TroubledTownie]

But in the heat of the moment (or past few pages) it's been elusive.

Wrong. From page 23.

Nero Cain, top of my list of scum. Acryon second. I can't believe I'm saying this, but elusive seems just about as town as my top townread kiwi.

He also mentioned acryon being his second read on page 22.

Anyway, fine, we can do Tier 1 today, but if there's a cop, they should target acryon, if it's a watcher, they should watch me, now hammer elusive and let's go to night.

Hella-bad, lazy scumhunting.

VOTE: Ozgin

[Nero Cain]

Nero has been looking opportunistic as all under the sun during the time this was happening.

that makes a ton of sense. Me an experienced player knowing that any hammer on Elusive would garner a ton of unwanted attention. Son please.

[TroubledTownie]

(I can strongarm a lynch too )

Not right now you can't.

Your ISO doesn't look amazing right now. I don't agree with ABR's latest case against you, but you haven't really done much to help out... a few lines here and there about other players, but you just seem to be coasting on your ABR read and only superficially justifying it.

[Nero Cain]

I've found scum this game so..I'm one of the most helpful players right now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah, you've found ALL the scum...in your role pm lol

[kiwieagle]

Damn.

Okay.

Elusive's final posts look like generic flailing I would expect from both town and scum.
Don't see it as anything I should be convinced by.

BUT.

Acryon really fucked up with his defense of Elusive.
And that sucks because he can't defend himself.
But heres how I see it.

IF
Elusive is town.
Then Acyron is complete fucking scum.
And I am baffled Elusive thought he was town if she really is town
(oh look another reason why I dont think she is town).

Acyron looks like a scum who was finding an excuse to defend the townie being lynched to get them mad town credz and heres why

Ozgin, its a couple of things about him. I'm phone posting and will do a ISO case to tonight or whenever I can. Here's a quick summary to the best of my memory:
1. Bankai falls apart and kiwi eggs him on and gloats that Kiwi as scum could pull off an emotional gambit but bankai can't.
2. Kiwi claims he will decimate scum.
3. I put a vote on kiwi because of the gloat and something about the tone of that post felt smug, bankai had already erupted and kiwi chose him as a scum target after the fact. Also when someone boasts like that but doesn't pull through it pings me hard since what scum is is to talk without actual actions.
4. Kiwis reactions to my one single vote were ridiculously bad. Like I don't feel much pressure right now and I might be lynched toDay. Emotions are all steady, I've been tunneled pretty hard as town by town and scum so were still in the minor leagues.
5. Kiwi specifically mentions that he wasn't going to get emotional and gets really really emotional. For no reason which is why I called drama or theatrics. He just told a guy he's good at fake out frame then he does some totally crazy response to soft poke.
6. I refuse to answer his questions BC they are make a case on him and a parrot of my own questions. The answers he gave as I stated don't give any reads on his scum. I'm used to people making cases, if this is not the case in this game ya'll better lynch me quick because a person without cases...what is this Town of Salem?
7. Kiwi continues to get heated without reason. I may have poked hard but only after being called dumb ass scum which was part of the ongoing OMGUS. Oh and retard fight I didn't find that to be complimentary to me or bankai? Unclear who the second was.
8. His reaction to my deciding not to make a case, mostly because I was having technical issues makes him go off even more. Like patience.
9. His entire case on me is not answering questions and then going from small tiny posts to large ones. How does that make sense? What scum mindset can you figure out from those?

So therefore scummy acting scummy and petulant.

Oh and GGG, same thing for you. You find questions scummy, explain why. Then the post of yours that Ozgin quotes actually means that you can build a case on kiwi who believes that post lengths must conform or its scummy. Or at least take down his logic because thats what town does find areas where logic doesn't follow or where actions and words don't match up.

Rampage, what are you offering in return? The ability to spin straw into gold?

Yep, not voting elusive. That

is

a pretty convincing kiwi case however.

Let's see where this goes.

VOTE: kiwieagle

C'mon really?
How the fuck is that a convincing case?
I don't see how that could convince anyone.
Oh boo hoo I got emotional. Its part of how I play.
How does that make me scum?

I mean I personally don't believe Elusive was right on ANYTHING but of all things that suddenly convinced you? Just when she was going to get lynched?
Talk about scum taking advantage.

And thats why I can understand an Acyron lynch but it depends on if Elusive is town.
Which after all the flat-out bad attacks shes done makes it a BIG if.

[TroubledTownie]

If you want to talk about opportunistic, let's talk about Fuzzy. He's been active, posting during the elusive wagon, but he hasn't done any scumhunting or committed himself to any reads. Mostly talking about gear instead of players and motives.

[Nero Cain]

Yeah, you've found ALL the scum...in your role pm lol

^
ABR trying to setup me up as a mislynch when Ac/House flips scum.

[kiwieagle]

Fuzzy and scott are both being pretty damn inactive but alas thats a battle for another day.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Which is why...it's good to have a vig.

[TroubledTownie]

Damn.

Okay.

...

I mean I personally don't believe Elusive was right on ANYTHING but of all things that suddenly convinced you? Just when she was going to get lynched?
Talk about scum taking advantage.

And thats why I can understand an Acyron lynch but it depends on if Elusive is town.
Which after all the flat-out bad attacks shes done makes it a BIG if.

This is scummy, and for more than just what I put below, I want to focus on this first.

You contradicted yourself. You have been

VERY

insistent that you didn't get emotional(naturally, because your seemingly-emotional response was a big part of the case against you)... but in this post:

Oh boo hoo I got emotional. Its part of how I play.

earlier in the game:

Also, I have never gotten emotional.

and

Also I am telling you thats how I play its not emotional

So you're lying about something. You were either lying about being emotional, trying to defend yourself against that accusation...

or

You're lying now, trying to make acryon's vote on you look more unfounded than it really was.

Which is it?

[Nero Cain]

Which is why...it's good to have a vig.

We basically have 3 lynches before we are in lylo. The ONLY purpose a vig would serve is give us less days.

[kiwieagle]

I personally don't feel I have ever gotten emotional but after like 5 people told me I was getting emotional then I came to accept thats how I play.

If I had to choose, then I would choose I never got emotional though.

[kiwieagle]

Why are people making such a big deal out of this?
Can someone quote where I got emotional ?

[Ozgin]

UNVOTE: ABR

So I've given it a decent amount of thought, and I genuinely believe elusive is town. For now.

That being said, with ABR leaving elusive alone, it doesn't make sense to not just push for a hammer on her.

I'm going to switch my sights, for this round at least, to

VOTE: acryon

I agree with kiwieagle that if elusive is town, acryon is scum. Since I believe that elusive is town, then acryon has to be scum, for just about the same reasons. Which makes me like kiwieagles thought patterns, and fear them all the same.

[kiwieagle]

Yo Ozgin you called me emotional.
Quote me.

I am curious how I got "emotional" in such a way where thats everthing people mention.
I honestly believe I have been pretty consistent all game on my "emotionality".

[Nero Cain]

vote:acryon

come ABR

[Ozgin]

Highly suspicious? Cmon really?
That seems forced as fuck.

Vindictive,

Look at least answer this
What was so hard of answering my legitimate questions?
Are you genuinely apalled I tried to find reason to your vote?

Pedit
So now the real reason is the t2 vote?
What if I told you that I voted t2 because I do not give a flying fuck what is chosen?
I really am happy with anything
To say voting t2 in the first pages makes me scum is just downright stupid.

Bargaining, followed by apathy,

So you think I am town and are voting me?
Thats worse than voting me for no reason.
Damn its like dumb and dumber here

Anger in response to confusion, and,

Acryon just fucking left the scene and once again no one wants to answer me.
Acryon did like a 720 in a span of minutes

Frustration.


You're a pretty emotional player, kiwi.

[TroubledTownie]

I personally don't feel I have ever gotten emotional but after like 5 people told me I was getting emotional then I came to accept thats how I play.

If I had to choose, then I would choose I never got emotional though.

Oh no. You're going to let other people in an online game determine your own reality? Not buying it. If you weren't emotional, you weren't emotional, and you would have no reason to concede that you were.

You slipped, in your eagerness to paint acryon in a bad light, you forgot one of your own pillars of defense.

VOTE: kiwieagle

[TroubledTownie]

vote:acryon

come ABR

Why are you voting acryon?

[kiwieagle]

I really dont know how I can defend myself from this. Its part of how I play mafia lol thats all I can say.


I really dont want to get into another bullshit war lol.
"Yeah well you are EMOTIONAL. GET FUCKED."

[Nero Cain]

he's ABR's buddy

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nero is scum, first on my list, he surpassed acryon in the last two pages.