Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[House]

Derp, ignore my last post.

[kiwieagle]

Huh?


pedit

yh I was confused

[Nero Cain]

Maybe no one is seeing what I see b/c I'm emotionally invested. I think that my point at the top is okay. I mean there is absolutely NO good reason for him to "sheep" Xombie and ignore Ac. I think its a good possibility that it poins to an Ac/ABR team.

so kiwi, what do you think of ABR being hardcore for an elusive lynch and then suddenly buddying her?

I mean I DO agree with you that there is a strong possibility that scum are sitting back on t1 to "look townie" but I kinda of think that scum can you know...take actual scummy stances.

[Nero Cain]

@Mod: Requesting replacement

Vote elusive

The leading wagon simultaneously self-voting and requesting replacement deserves a mod-kill, IMHO.

That goes far beyond the point of not playing to your own win con & simultaneously screws the poor sap that takes over your slot.

[elusive]

House, don't be silly.

Rampage's whole strategy was to sacrifice a town to figure out the scum team. I messed with this gambit with the self-vote. I'm helping my replace so that no one has to say to him or her, "Your predecessor claimed they would self-vote but didn't and so that makes you scum."

As I said, if anyone votes to hammer on the lead wagon that Rampage started and then hopped off of, that's your scum so it fulfills his plan. Unless you're now stating that his entire strategy is against win-con.

[kiwieagle]

I don't agree picking T3 or T2 is taking a scummy stance.
Heck, how the fuck is T2 scummy anyway?
Someone really has to explain that to me.


Yes, I think its ABR's 360 is odd. I personally thought it was a reaction test. I don't know what ABR was trying to achieve though.

[kiwieagle]

Elusive your self-vote did nothing to change my thoughts on your slot if that makes you feel better.
Who cares about self votes at L-2?

Also Elusive just curious.
You are saying ABR's plan was to use you to find scum? So you believe ABR is town?

[kiwieagle]

Is Elusive going to fall for it? Yep. She has consistently shown how she lets her emotions dictate how she plays. If I say Fuck Elusive she would consider it a scum tell.

Someone call MENSA.
We got a god damn genius here.

[elusive]

Who are you quoting, is that scum chat?

[elusive]

LOL, is that scum chat that he quoted?

[kiwieagle]

See, I was right.
You dont read anything I post.

[kiwieagle]

Or your playing stupid.

[Nero Cain]

I think t3 is a very scummy stance 'cause there is VERY LITTLE town motivation to have bullets. As stated earlier, 3 mislynches (assuming a nk each night) and we are in lylo. Yes we MAY hit scum but I there's a good chance to hit town. I much rather have the three days to spend scum hunting. And this is why a vig shot is pro-scum b/c it potentially speeds up the game and that does NOT help the town. Yes, you are right that there are prob scum on both sides of the debate but t3 is a scummy stance and I HIGHLY doubt all 4 pushing for it are town.

[Nero Cain]

I think t3 is a very scummy stance 'cause there is VERY LITTLE town motivation to have bullets. As stated earlier, 3 mislynches (assuming a nk each night) and we are in lylo. Yes we MAY hit scum but I there's a good chance to hit town. I much rather have the three days to spend scum hunting. And this is why a vig shot is pro-scum b/c it potentially speeds up the game and that does NOT help the town. Yes, you are right that there are prob scum on both sides of the debate but t3 is a scummy stance and I HIGHLY doubt all 4 pushing for it are town.

[kiwieagle]

How does someone even quote scum chat during the day?


(also "...you're* playing..". damn grammar)

[elusive]

Anything kiwi posted recently, I already rolled my eyes at since irrelevant.

But, I made no claims on not being emotional. You did. Then you backtracked then you went in a circle, then you made up a bunch of stuff.

House, the problem with Mod-kill things is you need to be clear about the rules.

"Playing against win-con" means purposefully helping the opposite faction. It doesn't mean "someone considers this a bad play" otherwise most of town in many games should be modkilled.

Threatening a modkill is really in poor taste by anyone and I don't do well with things like that.

[kiwieagle]

see now I am 100000% sure you don't read anything I write

why so mean

Also before anyone cries about how I used the word emotional.

There are two inherent differences.
People claim I play emotionally which means I get all hyped up like "Yeah well THIS right here show WHY YOU ARE FUCKING WRONG!"

What I am saying is playing based on emotion which is " he got me angry hes scummy because he doesn't treat me well but that guy is town because we have been bffss since forevaaa !"

[elusive]

Nero, I disagree on the T3 being the scummy stance. I can see now how T1 may make sense on the first day if only because we're being optimistic about getting the cop. 1/3 is still 1/3.

I think T2 is the scummiest stance to have on the first day. Let's assume everyone is an ungeared raider. How does having a doc or bodyguard first, without a role cop or jailer or someone of value to protect? That is the scummiest and most "safe" option for scum to hide under.

T3, especially the jailer is a great option since it gives a 2 for 1 (roleblock and doc so covering Tier 2) along with the Jailer actually being able to question the suspect and keep a record of actions\roles and maybe even direct some people. As for vigilante, having a vig in the game is great incentive for town to state "Don't lurk or the vig will get you" or "We get to lynch one and vig one today because both you have been scummy as fuck."

[elusive]

kiwi, you are contributing nothing to actual discussion but instead discussing yourself ad nauseum. Don't care.

[kiwieagle]

The fuck?
How is T2 safe?

I was alone in that damn spot.
No one even took me seriously.
I voted on that at the top of page 2.


The safe option is T1 which is where EVERYONE is.

Elusive by ignoring me you can't save yourself.
The way you try to argue with me is baffling.

You wrote gigantic posts with all type of bs on why I was scum (you never really were able to support any of your claims on me) but until recently you mention T2 which has BEEN THERE SINCE PAGE 2.
Hence, why its forced.
Looking for excuses to make it seem like you had a legitimate vote on me.
Which you have never had, and never will have.

[elusive]

You yourself stated that you didn't care which option was chosen which was why you picked T2....that in itself is so scum I can't even see why no one hasn't picked up on it. However, while Rampage protects you or ignores your massive scum slips or maybe tiny chance that you are town but inept but I rarely believe in things like that....I don't care.

Try discussing something relevant.

[kiwieagle]

If your best case on me is this

Why do people dismiss Tier 2???
We need the doctors and the bodyguards...

BUY TIER 2

Also, maybe I haven't understood but everyone who bought a tier rolls for that specific tier right?
Damn if true we need more Tier 2, we need to hide the protective role

Where I voted T2 because I though that everyone who voted for a tier got to roll that tier as in by the end those who voted T1 rolled for T1, those who voted T2 rolled for T2 etc.


Then you got a long way to go.
Since we are in page 30 and not page 3.

[kiwieagle]

How about you answer any of my questions? Or your scared you won't be able to defend your points?

[elusive]

Like Xombie, but only magnified, you've made posts that show you aren't going to state or ask anything relevant or worth my time. If someone else asks the same exact question, I'll respond to it. I've been in tunnels where I've responded to every post\every item but those players were of a caliber that made me respect them even when it turned out they were scum.

Let me help you though,
1. Is there anyone else in the whole wide world you want to ask questions of?
2. Is there anything in the game other than me that you think it's important to discuss?

If no, ergo scum.

[Nero Cain]

HERDING KITTENS!