Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[Nero Cain]

Alliance

[Ozgin]

VOTE: bankaikiller

To whoever replaces that slot I think it is scum after a quick read. Will do more later.

I think I am replacing bsnakiller so you scumread me before I even post.

Wait, wouldn't you get the same alignment as bankai, regardless of when you replace? So if bankai is scum, and you replace bankai, then you'd be scum -- He was probably scumreading bankai, you just happen to be the poor bastard who got the heated slot.

[acryon]

Sorry for the lack of activity. It's going to be a few days before I'm able to pop in as much as I can (although it won't be nearly as much as I like).st like normal, but I'll still try to jump in).

[kiwieagle]

I don't have much to add, sorry.

Scum is probably somewhere here.
math
ozigin
troubledtownie
acryon
titus

But I just feel bad with this list because those are just the people who have caught my attention.
Heres the ones who have not caught my attention:
TheFuzzylogic99
GGG
Xombie
eyestott

So maybe they have done something scummy. Maybe they are lurking . Maybe they are posting a lot and I am stupid.

Heres everyone else if someones curious:
Albert B. Rampage
Nero Cain
House

Damn. I am way too cynical.

House looks pretty towny. I can say the same for Albert.
For Nero...
I don't know.
I feel... empathy?
We both are getting attacked in a similar fashion.

Oh wait shit I have two votes.

DAMN SON I HAVE SHIT TO DO.
Ozigin, I have replied to your shitty points and terrible analysis. Come answer me bro.
Uhhh. TroubledTownie is voting me for the same reason as Ozigin.
That was disappointing. After their vote they have not answered to my defense nor called me scum again.
I was expecting more.






I am quite happy Elusive was replaced because then if Math calls me scum I can actually have a decent conversation without Math being immature and just ignoring what I write.
Same goes for Bankai and Titus

Umm.
Acryon tried to imply something here.

If I had to choose, then I would choose I never got emotional though.

You don't seem like the type that accepts others' projections on you.

... well yeah I do. I mean its not like its an insult or something negative... at least to me its not. I don't think I play emotionally but I am not going to fight semantics. Can someone please attack me for something else?

[Nero Cain]

Same goes for Bankai and Titus

you are in for one rude awakening.

If she's town.

[kiwieagle]

If.. Titus is town he will be as trolly as bankai?

[Nero Cain]

no, she'll scream and yell about her reads.

[TroubledTownie]

(1) Uhhh. TroubledTownie is voting me for the same reason as Ozigin.
(2)That was disappointing. After their vote they have not answered to my defense nor called me scum again. I was expecting more.

1 - I'm voting for you because you contradicted yourself on your own defense of yourself. Town has no reason to lie about their own actions.

2 - I answered your 'defense' which is as follows:

A - You didn't get emotional, you just said you did because other people were saying it
B - Emotion does not equal scum.

Now, A is just patently absurd. You shouldn't let people on the internet redefine your own reality... Either you did let internet people do that(unlikely), or you screwed up when trying to build a case against someone and forgot your own earlier lie(likely).

Your continued defense of 'it's ok to get emotional' doesn't mesh with point A, because if you didn't get emotional, you wouldn't be so worried about what the thing you didn't do means.

Lastly, point B ignores that my reason for voting you isn't that you showed emotion. Never has been.

[TroubledTownie]

House
can you be more specific as why you see play as scummy . What about his thought process do you see as bad, Also how do you equate his bad play as scummy,,,, what is the difference between just playing badly and playing bad in a scummy way

I can't expand on that read because it relies on information that can't be discussed at this time.

Soon though! Definitely before this game is done. Probably before tomorrow is.

Lol, I can't wait for your meta-analysis from a single point of data

[kiwieagle]

So by page 35 the only reason you are voting me because I said I am playing emotionally during a satirical restatement of a quote?
Damn.

[Nero Cain]

Just to clarify, this is about the time that Kiwi said he wasn't being emotional but was really being emotional?

[kiwieagle]

No, I personally believe I dont play emotionally. But when trying to understand elusives' case on me I was like "oh well I I play emotionally. how is repeating that 5 times a case?"

[TroubledTownie]

I love how you keep trying to minimize it. You used that point to ridicule someone else's read on you. Now you're acting like it wasn't a big deal.

Scum try to look town, it's not like every post they make is clearly scummy. You have to find when they slip up. You slipped up, and your defense of yourself has just made it worse.

Pedit:
@ Nero Cain
It's about the time he said:

C'mon really?
How the fuck is that a convincing case?
I don't see how that could convince anyone.
Oh boo hoo I got emotional. Its part of how I play.
How does that make me scum?

Trying to refute acryon's read of him by contradicting his earlier defense. Contradicting himself during a sad attempt at appealing to ridicule... scummy.

[kiwieagle]

I really am trying not to insult your intelligence. I really am.


I slipped up because I really could not give a flying fuck whether I am playing emotional or not?

[TroubledTownie]

I am not sure about Eusive and KIwii , I realy want to read through the events and see if either one pings my scumdar

This was a while ago, and you've posted a bit since then... any update Fuzzy?

[TroubledTownie]

I really am trying not to insult your intelligence. I really am.


I slipped up because I really could not give a flying fuck whether I am playing emotional or not?

I can read. I know what your defense of yourself is.

I just don't buy it.

[kiwieagle]

So your case boils down to:

"His defense used to be he does not play emotionally. But then he admitted he played emotionally to defend himself from Elusive."

There are various flaws in how you think and connect dots.
1. Saying I don't play emotionally is not a fucking defense. Its a disagreement over how I play. It might have been Elusive's case but that just means Elusive had no clue what she was doing.
2. Not caring whether people believe I play emotionally or not is a not a contradiction.
3. I was satirizing a statement made by Elusive, and then saying that if she has a problem with how I play then that's her prerogative but she can't base a case on that.


I can't believe I am putting so much analysis into a statement I made in 3 seconds.
Jesus christ, Troubledtownie. You really are desperate.

[kiwieagle]

I am trying to be really diplomatic here.

[TroubledTownie]

So your case boils down to:

"His defense used to be he does not play emotionally. But then he admitted he played emotionally to defend himself from Elusive."

There are various flaws in how you think and connect dots.
1. Saying I don't play emotionally is not a fucking defense. Its a disagreement over how I play. It might have been Elusive's case but that just means Elusive had no clue what she was doing.
2. Not caring whether people believe I play emotionally or not is a not a contradiction.
3. I was satirizing a statement made by Elusive, and then saying that if she has a problem with how I play then that's her prerogative but she can't base a case on that.


I can't believe I am putting so much analysis into a statement I made in 3 seconds.
Jesus christ, Troubledtownie. You really are desperate.

What constitutes scummy behavior isn't an objective, factual standard. Therefore, claiming that my interpretation of your play is a flaw in how I think and connect dots is ridiculous. There's nothing logically wrong with my argument, you just agree with one of the premises.

Veiled insults don't improve my opinion of you either.

[Nero Cain]

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@ Nero Cain
It's about the time he said:

C'mon really?
How the fuck is that a convincing case?
I don't see how that could convince anyone.
Oh boo hoo I got emotional. Its part of how I play.
How does that make me scum?

Trying to refute acryon's read of him by contradicting his earlier defense. Contradicting himself during a sad attempt at appealing to ridicule... scummy.

I'm lazy can you give me the post numbers 'cause I want to read this convo in context

[kiwieagle]

Look I am trying to be nice here because you have played 1 month of mafia.

But if you want me to be honest:
I consider your case to come from either desperate scum looking for details to fuck someone around with or really fucking stupid town. I have said so much scummy things and you come with this bullshit? I can't even defend myself from this because I get a cerebral aneurysm trying to understand your though process here.

[kiwieagle]

So your case boils down to:

"His defense used to be he does not play emotionally. But then he admitted he played emotionally to defend himself from Elusive."

There are various flaws in how you think and connect dots.
1. Saying I don't play emotionally is not a fucking defense. Its a disagreement over how I play. It might have been Elusive's case but that just means Elusive had no clue what she was doing.
2. Not caring whether people believe I play emotionally or not is a not a contradiction.
3. I was satirizing a statement made by Elusive, and then saying that if she has a problem with how I play then that's her prerogative but she can't base a case on that.


I can't believe I am putting so much analysis into a statement I made in 3 seconds.
Jesus christ, Troubledtownie. You really are desperate.

What constitutes scummy behavior isn't an objective, factual standard. Therefore, claiming that my interpretation of your play is a flaw in how I think and connect dots is ridiculous. There's nothing logically wrong with my argument, you just agree with one of the premises.

Veiled insults don't improve my opinion of you either.

Like, look at this.
You are going to dismiss all of my points just because I used the phrase "various flaws in how you think and connect dots." which any other person would consider perfectly valid?

[TroubledTownie]

Look I am trying to be nice here because you have played 1 month of mafia.

But if you want me to be honest:
I consider your case to come from either desperate scum looking for details to fuck someone around with or really fucking stupid town. I have said so much scummy things and you come with this bullshit? I can't even defend myself from this because I get a cerebral aneurysm trying to understand your though process here.

Cool. I don't care. You disagree with me, and I'm new. To make such a big deal about how stupid you think that makes me serves no point.

And no you don't. My thought process is (simplified) town shouldn't lie, you lied. You understand that. There's no need to keep going over this, so just drop the insulting bullshit.

[Nero Cain]

I don't think him saying that he's not being emotional but getting emotional is a scumtell.

[TroubledTownie]

So your case boils down to:

"His defense used to be he does not play emotionally. But then he admitted he played emotionally to defend himself from Elusive."

There are various flaws in how you think and connect dots.
1. Saying I don't play emotionally is not a fucking defense. Its a disagreement over how I play. It might have been Elusive's case but that just means Elusive had no clue what she was doing.
2. Not caring whether people believe I play emotionally or not is a not a contradiction.
3. I was satirizing a statement made by Elusive, and then saying that if she has a problem with how I play then that's her prerogative but she can't base a case on that.


I can't believe I am putting so much analysis into a statement I made in 3 seconds.
Jesus christ, Troubledtownie. You really are desperate.

What constitutes scummy behavior isn't an objective, factual standard. Therefore, claiming that my interpretation of your play is a flaw in how I think and connect dots is ridiculous. There's nothing logically wrong with my argument, you just agree with one of the premises.

Veiled insults don't improve my opinion of you either.

Like, look at this.
You are going to dismiss all of my points just because I used the phrase "various flaws in how you think and connect dots." which any other person would consider perfectly valid?

Listen, if you want to discuss mafia theory, you'll probably wipe the floor with me. But if you want to discuss logic, I'll wipe the floor with you. You accusing my thought processes based on a subjective disagreement is nothing more than absurd.

Point 1 I've already addressed.
Point 2 is irrelevent. You only 'didn't care' after I pointed out your contradiction.
Point 3 I've already addressed.

I didn't dismiss anything, we've been over all this before.