Mini 1637- Pokemon Generation I uPick (Game Over)

[Wisdom]

any last reads?

[Bert]

I'm not sure what you want me to say. I didnt have a good grasp on this game from the get-go. Every attempt I made to get involved lead to me being attacked. I wasnt confident enough in anything to defend myself, and when I got last minute notice that I was traveling over the weekend I decided this wasn't worth spending time on. I feel like ive left a fairly analyzable wagon, and id encourage you all not to forget about it in the endgame.

Good news is that i can offer notty some backup mod help now, cause i think he needs it.

If you're town, then considering the mod isn't here and hasn't for a few days, it's likely twilight is prolonged

So you could have let everyone know what you're flipping

Etc. etc.

Considering most players in past Nat games had powers/abilities that aren't revealed in full detail at death

[Bert]

Also letting your flip and alignment barring trolling be known, more discussion can begin with the assumption you aren't trolling

[Micc]

You might have been right about Not Mafia. Dont forget about Egg. Like seriously, someone please pressure Egg tomorrow because his vote on me sucked.

Please remember to policy lynch metal sonic for unlynchable claim before LyLo. If hes unlynchable treat as confirmed town.

And stop letting Marquis get away with doing nothing.

And if Wisdom hardcore tunnel leads another mislynch it means hes probably scum.

[Micc]

III) Full role PMs will be revealed on lynch.

Why doesn't anyone read setup specific game rules? This happens way too often.

[Micc]

Im town. I dont really believe you need any more info than that to continue discussion.

[Bert]

Okay

wow so then that would make it two games with you now (1 past game), both times you got lynched day 1 and flipped town

[Micc]

...and if nacho replaces in, lynch him cause hes always scum in my games.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Still awful modding.

WTF is going on here. Hope you're around to help out Micc because I'm considering replacing out.

VCA is worth fuck all in this game with lack of VC's.

[Not_Mafia]

I'll PM Natirasha, don't know if she had mod powers though

[Metal Sonic]

Still awful modding.

WTF is going on here. Hope you're around to help out Micc because I'm considering replacing out.

VCA is worth fuck all in this game with lack of VC's.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

3 full days after lynch.

This is a joke. I apologize to all players but I cba with this game.

Mod, replace me.

[Metal Sonic]

Why replace you? Replace the mod!

[Keybladewielder]

Bert:
ISO 6 - Not claiming his pokemon is probably null itself. But his reasoning of not knowing what info scum has seems like a legitimate worry unless he is scum with specific info that tells him knowing everyone's pokemon will help. I can't think of what that info might be, so I lean towards the town side of this.
10- he saw what I saw regarding Keyblade. I tend to townread these situations because it shows his head is probably in a town mindset looking for scum.
12 - reasonable conclusion for the above.
13-16 good questions and feels like a natural pregression on the Seo scum read. I'd like to know how strong this read is now though.
24/25 don't get the Not Mafia hate. "Tossing questions" doesn't seem scummy to me.
29 lurker lynch thing, I can go either way on. Town who wants more activity or scum testing waters. What I can conclude from this for sure is that if Bert flips scum later, he had at least one buddy who was active in the thread at that time. He wouldn't make that post with two lurking scumbuddies.
31-45 bert came out of his exchange with me looking town in my opinion. He felt very open and genuine. I don't get the feeling he was trying to decieve me or hide anything at all. His reads list wasn't the best, but the conversation felt pretty real.
46 I like the BBT call out but would like to know why he was singled out over other lurkers.
49 BBT kind of asked the same thing I wondered above, but Bert's answer references a post that came after 46 so that doesn't help me much.
53 good points to when talking to BBT, but it's more about optimal play than it is about BBT's alignment.
Overall - I like Bert for town right now.

BBT:
9 questioning town reads on one's self is one of my favorite town tells
10 this keyblade vote is hard to judge without knowing keyblade's alignment.
13/14 keyblade vote got easier to judge. I don't like it now.
15/16 would like to know why BBT naked voted flames for exactly one post before returning back to Keyblade.
18: tier scum read feels genuine. The keyblade one not so much. Mixed feelings. Theory: BBT is frustrated with Keyblade's play and wants him to be scum.

People read better through post links than quote walls IMO.

^for the record, I rarely click links.
19-23: I like most of BBT's reasoning. Not a strong town tell or anything, but he's using his head. He's probably capable of faking all of these stances though. Wouldn't be hard.
25. Apology for lurking and "shit attempt to play" reads like he feels bad. Not sure scum would do this. Or at least it would sound forced from scum.
27 goodposting and explains the Micc town read.
31-35 getting that same good reasoning vibe.
39-42 weird reads but he seems to back them up pretty well.
43-66 shows he believes in his read and looks more confident in his play than before. Not something I expect from scum who is being discussed for a lynch.
67-current reads town regardless of Micc's flip. He'd have hammered a buddy sooner and BBT just didn't read like he wanted to lynch his town read. Perfectly fair.
Overall : BBT is probtown.

Espeonage:
0 Bert vote seems ok. Claim seems legit. I don't really see scum doing this unless they think their actual role seems like a town role which I haven't ruled out
1-12 fluff, unexplained reads, discussing his claim, and a hint of setup spec.
13: In hindsight, it's funny that he thought he'd draw doc protection. Scum aren't gonna kill him the way he's played.
14-31 useless and obnoxious
32: actually a pretty decent vote
33-35 useless and fluffy
36: I like that he questions town reads on him.
Overall: his play is shit regardless of alignment. The hints of actually playing the game look town though and I believe his sort of claim. I've basically stashed Espeonage to the back of my mind, but consider him a town read.

Flames:
0: the lastman read is weird as hell because that post was null as fuck. BBT vote is decent though.
2: I feel like I get what he is saying but I'm coming to the opposite conclusion even just using his reasoning.
3-8: the Keyblade callout is good. I get slight town vibes from referencing his own role so early. Not sure I like how much time he spends talking about flavor claims.
9-22 pretty fluffy here. Not saying a whole lot.
23-26 Not sure why but that whole catch up felt forced to me. See my last post for a couple of specific issues.
29 not so sure scum would take this stance on Metal Sonic, actually, unless he had a buddy being wagoned or specifically wanted no lynch. He seems to actually disbelieve the claim and think Sonic is scum. Of course, Micc could be Flames' buddy, but then why not just vote BBT?
35 lol there's that BBT vote. Maybe Flames IS scum with Micc.
Overall: Honestly, I came out of this less confident in Flames being scum than I expected. I definitely have issues with his play and wouldn't call him a town read, but his ISO didn't look as scummy as I expected it to if that makes sense.

Keyblade:
0-2 doing jack shit
3 says he has nothing to say. Now he's actively choosing to do jack shit.
4/5 jack shit
6 says no one is scummy. We're all town. Town wins. Game over. That was fun.
8 still no scum and says we are in RVS. This feels like a lie. RVS ended five pages before this post when things started happening.
9 confirms that he believes Espeonage's claim was a joke.
11 points out he is L-2
11-14 says he'll re-read
15/16 lists a few scum reads. No reasons.
17-20 jack shit
21: now we have Keyblade's first reason for a read.
Overall - there isn't much here but I don't like the little bit that I see. Still scum reading this.

Lastman/Metal Sonic:
Lastman:
0-3 I feel like he's taunting/trolling BBT and Keyblade. Probably not scum with Keyblade.
4-7 there is nothing here.
Metal Sonic:
0 opens with the unkillable claim. Reserving judgement.
2-5 reads with no reasons and fluff.
6 I actually don't get the impression that Wisdom is concerned with his image. I think he just plays mafia to troll because he thinks it's funny to act like a stubborn child in a game that people take seriously. I don't think he plays to a win condition. He plays to frustrate people.
8-24 a lot of fluff and instigating the Wisdom hate seemingly for the sake of it. what is going on here
25 naked vote on Keyblade. Last I knew, Metal was kiwi wa baka reading Keyblade or something. What does that mean? Was that a scum read? Any reasons?
27-40 tier is scum and micc is town and as far as I can tell the reasoning is pretty much just because.
41 can you elaborate on this? Who is scum with keyblade and why?
53 sonic is townreading BBT. Also appears to be just because
Overall- not impressed. Not sure what to make of it.

Marquis:
0-17 all I see here is Marquis is scumreading Bert and we don't get to know why
18 here's the post I commented on before.
Overall - there is nothing here except the slight town tell in 18.

I'm catching myself skimming and losing interest. I still have to do Not Mafia, seo, Tier, and Wisdom. My initial reads on those players are town, wavering, town, weak scum respectively. Those could change.

Town to scum as of right now:
BBT
Bert
Tier
Not Mafia
Espeonage
Marquis
Metal
Seo
Wisdom
Flames
Keyblade

Ok, I'll do the other four on Day 2 if they are all still alive

And I'm scum why? I've been extremely busy lately.

[Wisdom]

game looks dead

[TierShift]

This is really preposterous. Wasn't prof oak a hydra modding account? Can someone take over? Shall we contact a listmod?

[Micc]

I'll shoot Equinox a PM. I'm assuming N_M's attempt to get in touch with Natirasha wasn't successful, and notscience is being flaky site-wide.

[Not_Mafia]

I forgot to PM Natirasha, don't want her being blamed for anything. NS has been on site yesterday so I think we'll be getting a new mod

[Micc]

ok. i just sent Equinox a PM so that is taken care of.

[Natirasha]

I'm sorry, guys, the semi-unwritten tacit agreement for this game was that notscience would handle the bulk of the front-end moderation, I had not been paying attention the gamestate. Getting everything in-order now.

[Prof Oak]

Vote Count 1.2.1

Welcome to Silph Co Maf--oh wait.

Flames682(1):

Marquis

Bert(0):

Marquis(0):

Seohyun(0):

Metal Sonic(1):

Micc

Wisdom(1):

Espeonage

Espeonage(0):

Micc(7):

Egg, Seohyun, Bert, BlueBloodedToffee, Wisdom, Tiershift, Not_Mafia

Egg(0):

BlueBloodedToffee(2):

Flames682, Keybladewielder

Keybladewielder(0):

Not_Mafia(0):

TierShift(1):

Metal Sonic

No Lynch(0):

Not Voting(0):

With thirteen alive, it takes seven to lynch.

[Prof Oak]

Micc was lynched day one.

He was the ever-lovable

Snorlax

. Back in Oak's college days, Oak liked to toke up with Prof Rowan at the PPUU(PokeProfessor Unova University). One day, as they traveled to the nearest pokemart to stock up on snacks, they saw a weird shape in the garbage outside.

It was a Munchlax. This was the first time a Munchlax had ever been seen(mostly due to the fact that Snorlax's breeding method, which inexplicably involved having a specific manmade scent being present during the copulation ritual) and the two had a fight, because whoever presented this mysterious new pokemon to the PPUU board of trusties would surely go on to greatness in the grad program. To settle it, the two young professors sent out there pokemon to fight--Oak's Charmander vs Rowan's Pinplup. Sadly for Rowan, though, Oak had travelled back to Kanto and walked down the Cinnabar coastline during spring break and something strange happened...his Charmander had been Grass/Thunder type ever since.

With his new Munchlax, Prof Oak eventually went on to become an international icon. The two haven't spoke since. Rowan got the last laugh, though, becaue years later, when Munchlax evolved, it didn't become some cool new pokemon--it became Snorlax, and that was Oak's problem ever since.

Spoiler: Snorlax

Snorlax

Snorlax

The Sleeping Pokémon

Normal

Pokédex information

Very lazy. Just eats and sleeps. As its rotund bulk builds, it becomes steadily more slothful.

Moves

Rest

- You fall asleep the next day, losing your vote.

Snore

- You snore loudly, giving you a second vote.

Oak's Notes

- This Snorlax only seems to be able to use

Snore

once for every time it uses

Rest

, however it can

Rest

for several turns in a row to

Snore

for the same.

Alignment

You are one of

Oak's Pokémon.

You win when all threats to

Oak's Pokémon

are dead.

This is going to be a protracted night as I figure out who all i need to replace and what's going on. I'll set a deadline in the next day or two(sorry).

[Prof Oak]

I'd write something funny, but, like...it's Muk.

Espeonage, Muk

was knocked out night one.

Spoiler: Muk

Muk

Muk

The Sludge Pokémon

Poison

Pokédex information

Thickly covered with a filthy, vile sludge. It is so toxic, even its footprints contain poison.

Moves

Disable

- You submit a guess on what move the target is using. If your guess is correct, the target's move fails.

Alignment

You are one of

Oak's Pokémon.

You win when all threats to

Oak's Pokémon

are dead.

It's now day two. I'll set a deadline at some point I dunno.

If I missed your night action, pm both this account and my main(Natirasha) immediately!!!

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: BBT

[Wisdom]

VOTE: not_mafia