Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[Nero Cain]

like I know ABR's been around and him sitting on the sidelines during the whole House/Math/Nero debate is quite startling.

[Titus]

Xombie's finding of House's meta either clears House or scumfirms them together. My concern there us the wording is too perfect.

So yeah, I got no desire to lynch House.

[MathBlade]

Very limited posting today and tomorrow is why I did that. People will probably want to poke me and then when I don't respond oh it is Math lurking it out. Today company over tomorrow friend hangout.

So yeah do what you will I said my reads and oddly enough when listened to it seems like GMTA from Nero. /shocked Not!

[TroubledTownie]

Oh okay so if I play exactly like my town games (which is what I am supposed do to as mafia anyway) then TroubledTownie will consider me conftown!
Damn, its that easy?!

IF

all your town games you are abrasive, and

IF

all your scum games you are complacent

THEN

yes, playing abrasive makes you pretty much conftown.

If you manipulate your meta even once, and play abrasive as scum, then your meta becomes worthless.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Well if he is blocked etc than he get lynched tommorow so he better hope tnat there is no roleblockers...

Again Xombie we do not know if there are any assigned role or not, We can not just assume that every townie is an ungeared raider nor can we assume that there is assigned roles. We should not try to guess the set up at this point.Trying to lynch someone on that logic is bad

I am not 100 percent sold on a Mathblade lynch, however if we get down to -24 hours and there is no lynch I will vote Math.

[Albert B. Rampage]

like I know ABR's been around and him sitting on the sidelines during the whole House/Math/Nero debate is quite startling.

Math is town, House I don't know, you're scum

[Titus]

Why is Math town ABR?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

ABR seems to be quiet in general.His post count is low. This is not a scumtell. However he was agressive / almost bully like on first lynch push and now he is absolutly quiet on the House/ Mathblade push. I dont know exactly what to make of this

Xombies reasoning for a House lynch is bad. I am not sure if he is scum jumping on the bsndwagon bc he sees an easy lynch or if he just a misguided townie.

I think Titus and House are town and that Math is more likely than not is town.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

My Math read is more guts than anything just in case someone decides to ask me

[TheFuzzylogic99]

ABR why do you think House is likely scum????

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why is Math town ABR?

Because elusive is town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR why do you think House is likely scum????

He's contrarian, I don't know if he's scum, maybe he is.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

ABR You said House has been contrarian. Can you show some example where he has been such.
you also said that Elusive self vote was not scum like....What makes you come to this conclusion since scum implode and self vote. Also in that light what do you think of Houses self vote

[Nero Cain]

Xombie's finding of House's meta either clears House or scumfirms them together. My concern there us the wording is too perfect.

Why is Xombie's use of meta on House "scummier" than TT's use of meta on House?

oddly enough when listened to it seems like GMTA from Nero

GMTA?

This is not a scumtell. However he was agressive / almost bully like on first lynch push and now he is absolutly quiet on the House/ Mathblade push. I dont know exactly what to make of this

I very much disagree. I think ABR all the sudden not posting during the Math/House/Nero convo points to him being scum.

[Nero Cain]

Like sometimes I worry that Math is whiteknighting me but House is pretty much conf scum and TT is likely his buddy for using a null tell to call him town with. I don't really like ABR lurking all the sudden. Titus can be honorary scum (and somewhat potential).

[Xombie]

Like sometimes I worry that Math is whiteknighting me but House is pretty much conf scum and TT is likely his buddy for using a null tell to call him town with. I don't really like ABR lurking all the sudden. Titus can be honorary scum (and somewhat potential).

Yep.

House is confscum.
I could see TT/Titus/fuzzy with their defenses on House. Trying to sort which I could feel coming more from town than not.
Can't see ABR at all.

The important part:

House. Is. Scum.

[TroubledTownie]

Like sometimes I worry that Math is whiteknighting me but House is pretty much conf scum and TT is likely his buddy for using a null tell to call him town with. I don't really like ABR lurking all the sudden. Titus can be honorary scum (and somewhat potential).

Yep.

House is confscum.
I could see TT/Titus/fuzzy with their defenses on House. Trying to sort which I could feel coming more from town than not.
Can't see ABR at all.

The important part:

House. Is. Scum.

So... you're going to join Nero on the derp train, ignore House's meta, and think that anybody who knows his meta is scum defending him?

Come on, that's incredibly lazy and shallow, and you know it.

[Xombie]

Like sometimes I worry that Math is whiteknighting me but House is pretty much conf scum and TT is likely his buddy for using a null tell to call him town with. I don't really like ABR lurking all the sudden. Titus can be honorary scum (and somewhat potential).

Yep.

House is confscum.
I could see TT/Titus/fuzzy with their defenses on House. Trying to sort which I could feel coming more from town than not.
Can't see ABR at all.

The important part:

House. Is. Scum.

So... you're going to join Nero on the derp train, ignore House's meta, and think that anybody who knows his meta is scum defending him?

Come on, that's incredibly lazy and shallow, and you know it.

No, I'm ignoring

your

'meta' of House.

Townhouse voting townhouse cause people ignore his meta. He's most likely town, so put your vote to use somewhere else.

Pedit Mathblade, he's done exactly this before. Townhouse will go from "I will fight to the very last post to prevent my mislynch" to "Screw it, *self-vote*" very quickly.

I've seen him do exactly that as scumHouse, too. And so have you.

Which is why I find it odd that you're defending it.

Even more odd that you're amounting my thoughts on House being scum solely on meta, which is not the case at all.

I think House is scum not just because of what

I

think of his meta:

VOTE: House

Engaged? Explaining things? Giving reasons for your votes? Making cases?
So very town of you, House.

Get used to it.

Changing meta or scumclaim?
Decisions!

If you've read enough of my games to know my meta, you should have also ran across the fact I've restarted playing FFXI & spend considerably less time & focus here as a result of it.

I did see that too
But you not playing/being as active is not alignment indicative
Whereas
You towning it up in a game is more indicative of your scum play, as your town game is scummy as hell

But also because as I've stated, I don't believe anyone here has roles yet. I think that we all start out as

ungeared

raiders and we use the Tier buys to get PR's. I don't believe any of us were given them as roles.

[TroubledTownie]

No, I'm ignoring

your

'meta' of House.

Townhouse voting townhouse cause people ignore his meta. He's most likely town, so put your vote to use somewhere else.

Pedit Mathblade, he's done exactly this before. Townhouse will go from "I will fight to the very last post to prevent my mislynch" to "Screw it, *self-vote*" very quickly.

I've seen him do exactly that as scumHouse, too. And so have you.

What game?

[House]

Xombie, you can continue playing outguess the mod, or you can put your big boy pants on and lynch scum.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Xombie is a blind townie or a over eager scum IMHO....
Basing someone's guilt on a set up we are not sure of is naïve at best. His meta read on House is hard to understand since apparently scum house and townhouse self votes, I am not sure how than House self voting is a tell for either side. If you think I defending House somehow than you are wrong/ I believe the best plan is to use Houses ability tonight and if he cant we quick lynch him tomorrow. Since he seems to be a 1x vig at worst tomorrow we lynch a reg townie. I think this is the best plan and I am sticking to it.

Okay Xombie suppose I help lynch House and you are wrong.... should we quick lynch you than???

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Also Titus is solid town imho... She can be seriously messing with me but I am not getting anything but town vibes from her

Also Also using associations at this point of the game is dumb and also anti town.....

[House]

X

Okay Xombie suppose I help lynch House and you are wrong.... should we quick lynch you than???

Hands off Xombie, he's my strongest townread.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Stay out of this House.....

I want to know what Xombie has to say about that.

[Xombie]

@TT - If I could link it, I would.

@House - I am. You.
I'm taking the information that we have been given for the setup and its design (ungeared raiders with a tier system in order to gain PR's through 'raiding') and saying you're lying to say you're already geared.
I think the only way you might be geared right now is if you're scum.

His meta read on House is hard to understand since apparently scum house and townhouse self votes, I am not sure how than House self voting is a tell for either side.

That's TT trying to say that his meta is to do it as town.
That's me pointing out that House does it as both alignments so that it's null.

Okay Xombie suppose I help lynch House and you are wrong.... should we quick lynch you than???

Sure. I don't think I'm wrong.