Open 581: Making Friends and Enemies! (Game over)

[Jingle]

I'd still like you to answer the question from a theory standpoint, Titus.

[Whatisswag]

I reread Kaboose's ISO and I found two people whom he does not talk to: Titus and Mala. Ok guys, this game is over.

[Jingle]

But seriously, let's lynch swag despite him scumreading two people I could definitely see as scum.

[Heartless]

Jingle. Head out of ass, please.

[Titus]

I'd still like you to answer the question from a theory standpoint, Titus.

I am. I stand by what I said before, but I am confused because Kaboose is scum.

[Titus]

I reread Kaboose's ISO and I found two people whom he does not talk to: Titus and Mala. Ok guys, this game is over.

Our interaction in part has already been quoted.

Also Dave hasn't spoken to me either.

Finally, Kaboose would not speak to me if I am defending him outof fear of creeping me out.

[Whatisswag]

It is highly possible that Kaboose is one of those people who are afraid to talk to their scum partners.

[Titus]

It is highly possible that Kaboose is one of those people who are afraid to talk to their scum partners.

Anything's possible.

Dave read. Go.

[Whatisswag]

Dave is town. It is not that useful to distract myself from you.

[davesaz]

Also Dave hasn't spoken to me either.

I'm fairly certain that I have, though I'd have to ISO dive to confirm.

[davesaz]

Hmm, it's more than zero but not much more.

[Jingle]

Jingle. Head out of ass, please.

Nope. I believe that swag did a shitty fake guilty. Thus I believe that my win condition will be easier to fulfill if swag is dead. More to the point, I'm a vindictive asshole and I'm more than willing to Lynch town who fakeclaims guilties because that shit is unacceptable. It is damaging to both the game and the site, and it deserves punishment wherever it exists.

No offense swag, but your fake guilty is possibly the most offensive thing that you could have done and i want to lynch you because of it.

[Whatisswag]

No offense swag, but your fake guilty is possibly the most offensive thing that you could have done and i want to lynch you because of it.

No it is not. I have gotten modkilled before.

[Whatisswag]

I have thought about getting modkilled too.

It happens.

We could lynch outside of Kaboose and Whatisswag and see if the scumteam takes the possible bait.

No. I die, or Kaboose die. Of course I prefer the latter one. If neither is going to die, I will find a way to die.(How about requesting to get modkilled?)

[Armageddon]

Vote Count Day 3.2

Players alive: 9

Players needed to lynch: 5

Green Crayons

- 2 - Titus, MalaKittens - (L-3)

MalaKittens

- 2 - davesaz, Whatisswag - (L-3)

Titus

- 2 - Green Crayons, Heartless - (L-3)

Players not voting: Grib, Jingle, Lone Ranger

Mod notes:
Malakittens has been prodded.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2015-02-18 23:01:00)

[Heartless]

jingle, swag, lone

vote titus

[Grib]

Hi, I was skimming and I just wanted to pop in because this is annoying:

Jingle. Head out of ass, please.

Nope. I believe that swag did a shitty fake guilty. Thus I believe that my win condition will be easier to fulfill if swag is dead. More to the point, I'm a vindictive asshole and I'm more than willing to Lynch town who fakeclaims guilties because that shit is unacceptable. It is damaging to both the game and the site, and it deserves punishment wherever it exists.

No offense swag, but your fake guilty is possibly the most offensive thing that you could have done and i want to lynch you because of it.

You yourself are sabotaging your chances of achieving your wincon by lynching those you read as town. It is up to the mod to decide if Swag should be punished for his actions. And seeing as how he managed to get scum lynched, I can't say I really give a flying fuck about the means in this particular instance.

Is it something he should do in future games? Not at all. But is it against the rules to lie in order to push a lynch? I certainly don't think so. Town fakeclaiming a PR is shitty, but not against any rules. You're free to feel any way you want about it, though.

That's all. See you guys on Tuesday.

[Heartless]

Jingle. Head out of ass, please.

Nope. I believe that swag did a shitty fake guilty. Thus I believe that my win condition will be easier to fulfill if swag is dead. More to the point, I'm a vindictive asshole and I'm more than willing to Lynch town who fakeclaims guilties because that shit is unacceptable. It is damaging to both the game and the site, and it deserves punishment wherever it exists.

No offense swag, but your fake guilty is possibly the most offensive thing that you could have done and i want to lynch you because of it.

You can berate him after the game, I'm sure Anti will join you. You should vote Titus.

[Green Crayons]

Did anyone vote Kaboose because of swag's fakeclaim?

I think Grib is giving swag too much credit.

[Heartless]

Guys, you can get out the ruler after the game's over! X\

[davesaz]

So I don't have to go back and find it, can you post a Titus case please?

[Heartless]

The Kaboose paper trail goes right back to Titus; the associative tells are emanations of events occurring from the fallout of Post 996 and Post 1073.

The reads evolution on Kaboose throughout the game makes less sense as a natural progression and more sense as putting up the Phalanx once the serious attacks loomed. The first thing Titus posts about Kaboose is found in Post 1002 when she notes how Kaboose wasn't voting even though he was scum reading elle. From then on, though, she grabbed onto Post 1051 and never let go even though the reaction wasn't particularly town. For funsies, we even get a little revisionist history in Post 1074 when we hear Kaboose's ISO is "dripping with town motivation to crack the game," doubling down on a read that had evidence of showing cracks in the foundation.

She then has the incredibly strained angle in Post 1104 in the wake of Swag's obviously fake claim. Even if you

didn't

think the claim was obviously fake, the argument about how the mason claim should be lynched before the claimed guilty is terrible and doesn't hold up to even the mildest application of logic. We've been getting pushback from Titus every step of the way on the Kaboose read. I can just rattle off posts: Post 1053, Post 1074, Post 1180, Post 1521, Post 1603, and Post 1612. There's also the last moment move to try to get us to rejoin the Green Crayons wagon in Post 1689 by taking this strained "GC is scum if Kaboose is scum... or not" angle.

It's also apparent from how she talks about Anti that she's playing to his apparent meta experience with her. Anti will listen to me, though, so she's out of luck there.

[Lone Ranger]

I have quite a problem with the way titus went out of her way to protect Kaboose and a lot of the stuff she said didn't make sense. I have a few conflicting thoughts on Malakittens but this is the way to go today.

VOTE: Titus

[Heartless]

thank you

2 more to go

[Grib]

Did anyone vote Kaboose because of swag's fakeclaim?

I think Grib is giving swag too much credit.

Okay, it was mostly due to Heartless. I think I'm just in awe that such a bad town move worked out for the better.