Mini 1634 - English Premier League Mafia (Game over)

[Guyett]

I meant Bro not BBT lol

[BROseidon]

lol

My role is pretty straightforward. I target someone at night, if we're both alive the next day we're the only 2 lynch options.

[Guyett]

I understand that, are you allowed to use it at any point of the game?

[BROseidon]

Yeah.

[Guyett]

ok

[Guyett]

I'm pretty sure bro is town

[Guyett]

Second of all, who is Man U?

This makes me 90% sure bro is town

[Guyett]

Votecount 1.5:

Kaboose

(6)-

BROseidon, Guyett,

BlueBloodedToffee, Scripten, deathfisaro, 4burner

Whiskers (2)-

Red Arrow,

Kaboose

Guyett (1)-

Whiskers

BlueBloodedToffee

(1)-

Yiley

Red Arrow (1)-

massive

Scripten

(1)-

theelkspeaks

Not voting (1)-

Zombeh

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline will be in 14 days, at 7pm (GMT) on Wednesday 7th January 2015.

Ok I take back my bro town read for now

[theelkspeaks]

Wow, that vote count looks very problematic for BRO and Guyett. L-1 on day 1 with no scum is somewhat rare, but probably at least possible.

I'd abandoned my Guyett suspicions before, or at least put them on the back burner, but damn.

[Guyett]

Votecount 1.1:

BlueBloodedToffee

(5)-

4burner, Yiley, Kaboose, Scripten

, Guyett,

Guyett (2)-

deathfisaro

, BROseidon

Kaboose

(1)-

BlueBloodedToffee

theelkspeaks (1)-

massive

Not voting (4)-

Red Arrow, Whiskers, theelkspeaks,

Zombeh

So the BBT wagon (from my perspective) was all town on town. Why was there no scum on it?
Perhaps they were effectively inactive which is backed up by this post by flipped scum:

Not tolerating inactivity in this game. People with less posts than me & the dead guys need to get involved...

[Guyett]

Why no lynch?

It's the "technically" correct play in MyLo, but I'm trying to figure out why we don't have a kill last night. Nobody claimed a protective/defensive PR, so the next explanation would be a NK gambit. I don't see who as scum would benefit from that.

If anybody is a defensive PR who landed a block/protect, it might be worth claiming.

NK gambit or perhaps scum forgot to submit a kill

[theelkspeaks]

Votecount 1.1:

BlueBloodedToffee

(5)-

4burner, Yiley, Kaboose, Scripten

, Guyett,

Guyett (2)-

deathfisaro

, BROseidon

Kaboose

(1)-

BlueBloodedToffee

theelkspeaks (1)-

massive

Not voting (4)-

Red Arrow, Whiskers, theelkspeaks,

Zombeh

So the BBT wagon (from my perspective) was all town on town. Why was there no scum on it?
Perhaps they were effectively inactive which is backed up by this post by flipped scum:

Not tolerating inactivity in this game. People with less posts than me & the dead guys need to get involved...

There are 3 "inactive" people in that screencap: Kaboose, Scripten, and myself. The other two already flipped town.

Even if they hadn't that's a pretty shitty case, given that the player who pointed out the inactivity has already flipped scum. If you're scum, you don't draw attention to your own inactive partner; that'd be idiotic.

[Guyett]

I think he's talking about Massive and you here.
I amn't sure if you're scum based on Ollies vote on you

[theelkspeaks]

I think he's talking about Massive and you here.
I amn't sure if you're scum based on Ollies vote on you

That's a fair counterargument, without looking at the post in original context and just looking at the screencap, I was mentally sorting by time since last posted rather than number of posts. The other two were in fact dead then.

I still think that Ollie's play would've been poor if we were scumbuddies, and that he was more likely trying to use it to get an easy mislynch on me, but WIFOM and all, so that's not very conclusive.

[BROseidon]

Why no lynch?

It's the "technically" correct play in MyLo, but I'm trying to figure out why we don't have a kill last night. Nobody claimed a protective/defensive PR, so the next explanation would be a NK gambit. I don't see who as scum would benefit from that.

If anybody is a defensive PR who landed a block/protect, it might be worth claiming.

NK gambit or perhaps scum forgot to submit a kill

Maybe. I think the correct response to a NK gambit is to no-lynch.

That said, I want explicit claims from everyone that they couldn't be responsible for there not being a kill.

[Guyett]

My claim has been proven

[massive]

Same here.

So the BBT wagon (from my perspective) was all town on town. Why was there no scum on it?

Do you think Red Arrow would be justified in voting you based solely on the initial BBT train?

[Guyett]

That depends on if RA is scum reading me or town reading me. I think everyone needs to reread with an unbiased mind tbh.

Part of me is wondering if there's no scum on that wagon because ut was a fast wagon and scum werent on site due to inactivity or if scum purposefully kept off the wagon and then pushed for lynches on the wagon.

Option 1 is appealing because ollie did highlight inactivity, if theres no day chat he could have been sending a message to scum to oncrease activity.

Option 2 has merit due to the odd choices of night kills. It looks to me like scum were dangling apples infront of the VCA people like me to push through that wagon as VCA logic says there had to be scum on it (either on wagon or being wagoned). Each town flip pn the wagon increased the odds of catching the scum on the wagon

I need to look back at the whiskers D2 wagon next :/

[Guyett]

This is the VC as of 216

Whiskers

(4): Guyett,

BlueBloodedToffee

, Red Arrow,

Yiley

Guyett

(1):

Ollie

Not voting (7)-

massive,

4burner, deathfisaro

, Whiskers, theelkspeaks, BROseidon,

I think that either RA or Whiskers has to be scum here.

There is also that really odd RVS from Whiskers in the back of my mind

[Guyett]

Err, uh, "Crikey!"
<_<

Vote 'em anyway.

Scummy question.

Have a vote.

VOTE: Kaboose

Whoa, harsh. More like, it's a nooby question, as Kabs is a huge noob. Be civil.

And I'd vote for you here, but

Early town reads on Guyett and BBT.

VOTE: Kaboose

No no jo its xmas eve n I'm pissrf. Yhis isnt alignment indicative

Drunkposting is

always

an instant scumtell, only scum do it to seem like regular joes.

Vote: Guyett

(P.S.: if it weren't for massive, I'd be the oldest member playing this game. *shakefist.* Damn you, massive!)

This post is just weird and awkward.

[Guyett]

@Massive why didn't you govern massive?

[Guyett]

@Massive and RA

What is the name of your role?

[Guyett]

Right now I'm leaning Bro and RA scum.

Bro from VCA amongst other smaller things
RA for pushing the BBT wagon and also claim (Thinking on it I don't see town having 2 bulletproofs)

[Guyett]

Right now the person I'm most confident in being town is Elk tbh and that just from Ollies push on him

[Guyett]

I'm Newcastle

I'm a "vote loan shark" - I can give a player of my choice a doublevote for one day, but the following day, I control their vote. This ability is one-shot and not used yet.

If Elk was scum surely they would have killed to bring the game to LyLo and he could have given his partner another vote to auto win? (this is assuming the claim is legit)