Mini 1644: DOUBLE TROUBLE (Day 5) - IS THE GAME OVER YET?!?

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Yay pagetop lol! Ill get an update here somewhen

Official Votecount #8

SEVEN VOTES FOR LYNCH

• Crabalocker: (1)
  
  The Light.
  
• Fault: (0)
  
  
  
• Aneninen: (1)
  
  INAUFTA
  
• Gutenberg: (0)
  
  
  
• INAUFTA: (0)
  
  
  
• Vertigo: (1)
  
  Whompin Willow.
  
• Whompng Willow: (4)
  
  Vertigo, Heads And Tails, MarshawnLynch24, Mr Unlucky.
  
• The Light: (2)
  
  Fault, Crabalocker.
  
• HeadsAndTails: (0)
  
  
  
• MarshawnLynch24: (2)
  
  Aneninen, Kagamine.
  
• Cursive: (0)
  
  
  
• Mr Unlucky: (1)
  
  Gutenberg
  
• Kagamine: (0)
  
  
  
  
  
  
• No Lynch: (0)
  
  
  
• Not Voting: (1)
  
  Cursive

Mod Notes:
1. Deadline is now changed to be in:

(expired on 2015-02-13 01:13:13)

2. Kagamine has been prodded.

[MarshawnLynch24]

Whomping Willow is Pine.

Pine, Jackel, and 4nixty have all altslipped.

If you're going to vote Unlucky, why not just vote Kagamine with me? They're doing the same thing, Kagamine's just worse imo.

[Fault]

VOTE: Vertigo

Lazy to explain on mobile, basically gut and I don't like his posts because he sounds really jumpy and pushes seem superficial

[INAUFTA]

Whomping Willow is Pine.

Wrong, unless Pine had two alts playing this game.

If we're basing that case on that assumed connection, can we look harder, I don't believe anyone should be based on who people are assuming the alts belong to, especially when there are other ones which can accurately be associated with on stuff that isn't tree = tree.

[HeadsAndTails]

@Cursive 240: yes I'm backing him up. As far as I can tell, he is the most townie persona in the game, and his push on willow is completely legitimate, ISO willow.

@Aneninen 245: why would you be dead?

@Gutenbeeg 249: how can you ask me for content when a person like WW exists, AND vote neutger of us nearing deadline, in favor of a nonexistent wagon?

[Kagamine]

I kinda got multiprodded. I'll be good now

Look, this game isn't really going anywhere, so let's get a flip. That will give this game a kick in the ass and a jumping-off point for analysis

I don't like this.

Crap crap crap crap crap. Crap.
That was L-1, btw. It'd be nice to say that before you lynch the Town Doctor. Yeah, that's a claim.
I'm sticking with my reads, reading the game after I forgot that this was a game.

I don't know what to think about this.
Also

what reads even

? I certainly don't remember any.

Aneninen replaces TheBastard effective immediately.

Welcome and thanks!

I don't know whether having a known factor makes him more or less likely to be Town.

Vaguely concerned by the fact that his catchup doesn't seem that original of thought.

You're a main

And you're useless.

So, anyone on the wagon on crabalocker wants to explain how and why that wagon happened, and why we practically made the town doctor claim still in RVS?

This aches of "oh you silly fools, you were on a townie wagon but

I

wasn't on that wagon because I am MAGIC and so

obviously

not Scum"
Like, I would totally join an H&T wagon.

A crab lynch is just fine with me.

VOTE: Crabalocker

This is a votable vote. He didn't even say it was L-1.

Not everyone's going to count votes before they place one; I usually don't. That's a really weak reason.

As it happens, I agree that it's votable, but not for that reason.

Scumalocker
Crabascum

useless willow

Don't like: Kagamine's Marshawn vote, Marshawn's reaction to that vote, Vertigo's joining the Kagamine wagon.

Fault and Cursive are both so Town at this point that if either of them is Scum they deserve the win BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTUALLY TRYING

Apparently, you don't know lots of things. You happen not to like many things as well, won't you tell us why? You appear to be like a five-year-old who doesn't know lots of stuff and doesn't like lots of stuff either.

Vote: HeadsAndTails

Gutenberg is dead on about H&T's post
You got a similar statement earlier about Y VOTE CRAB
while inbetween both posts is a post preparing to join wagon with, "So I think that crab fucking off when his wagon grows is telling."
Putting the blame on a group of people instead going after a specific person on the wagon
Including a VOTEPARK on NotMastin with no followup or explanation

The point about Vertigo surface playing is good too
Questions that aren't umm Amazing and quoting other ppl's posts like it's his own reasoning

Rightnow my group of scum theoryish is H&T, Hodor, and Vertigo
with some form of Kagamine, Crabalocker depending on how things play out, what happens to be right
(Kagamine needs to start

adding

to the game like it is 2nd grade math class and you're about to be held back if you fail the final test)

NotMastin and Marshawn aren't

really

in my town pool atm
But I still think that early paranoia about being tied comes from a town mindset
And I am fine with the recent stuff Marshawn's posted

Cursive is very town. His scumhunting is evident from his ISO, for example the above quoted post, and his reads are transparent and well-explained. If anybody is as close to mason-town status, Cursive is.

[Kagamine]

Unfortunately, Marshawn is still my top scumread. His posts are fickle and exhibit a form of childish immaturity. He pushes low-hanging fruit and is shooting from the peanut gallery; that is, he's low content yet attempts to stay under the radar by taking potshots at other slots.

I especially dislike his push on myself with his weak reasoning and pitiful appeals. There is a sense of scum trying to deflect the suspicion off himself and attempt to get a free mislynch due to the sluggish nature of the game.

[Vertigo]

So does this make you think he's town or scum? this can be taken either way.

decent = townlean

obvious as they may be, are they wrong? or are you just sayin he's obvscum?

mhmm probably wrong

WW looks to be trying a gimmicky playstyle or maybe has a post restriction
that after being pressured for more WW responds with something like "Don't feel like it" and continues onelining points to townstubborness
like scum would want to blend in more, be somewhat appeasing

I think your "OMGUS", "Talking out of your butt", "You're making this too easy for me" is rhetoric geared towards pushing a lynch rather than figuring out alignments

Side Note you going on the aggressive on WW after being pinged out by Gutenberg, me, and INAUFTA is strange to me

Unvote: H&T

thinking...
not sure if HT back ups Vertigo here if they're scum together
and

really

think vertigo is scum at this point

well he proved he does not have a post restriction. how comes it is town stubborness? how does that benefit town?

I wanted to quote you and say just 'no' and see how you react. how would you have reacted? probably you'd have voted me, right? this is practically the same as WW is doing. except he is not even trying, not at all, to work towards anything. not determining any alignment, role, no scumhunting, just ignoring the shit out the game until the day is over, it seems.
My rhetoric gear is not aimed at 'just pushing a lynch'. it is aimed at getting his reaction, getting something to work with. seriously ISO him like I did. you can't say I'm wrong because I'm right. All of his posts are one liners with not a titbit of scumhunting. ALL OF THEM. this reeks of scum lurking through day one.

Also, me going aggressive after what? being pinged by you? where did that happen?
And you think I am scum - why would that be? what reason would I have to start being so loud all of a sudden. there was a 4-people wagon on NM at the time. I coulda just lurked away; deadline was within just one prod. lurk 2 days, post once, lurk till day end.

[Vertigo]

Anyway Marshawn showed a tiny tiny bit of re-evalution on Crabalocker

going from Claim = ConfirmedScum to MaybeClaimTooBad MaybeUnvote

Which is decent Shows doubt in your read

So does this make you think he's town or scum? this can be taken either way.

Knowing about Whomping Willow's main, I can tell this: I've already seen his scumplay and it was very different. Contentless, yes, but with less frequent posts and more content-looking objects.

mark to self: if WW is scum, lynch aneninen. This is an unrefutable and unprovable claim in this game, and well really that ISO is really bad.

I'll join this one actually. WW doesn't look like he's trying to do anything but piss vertigo, and it's 2 days to deadline. Town wouldn't do that.

I would and am

And Vertigo is going after obvious angles on Willow

obvious as they may be, are they wrong? or are you just sayin he's obvscum?

It is you sir! Who is obvscum

You're making this too easy for me bud bud

Your post was counterfactual

oh is it? I dunno, I just said that you're doing shit and you answerd me with 'yeah'

Yes it is. No I didn't.

I mean COME ON JUST LOOK AT THIS
this is the most content he got all game.
"I am not scum, you are! lol!"

and for reference:

WW, you have 23 posts, all are one-liners, the longest is 11 words, and the only mention of me is "N0 guilty on vertigo" when there wasn't even a N0.

you are basically talking out of your butt

Nope

[Vertigo]

I may be pretty much dead Tomorrow if WhompingWillow flips scum but this vote above was opportunistic as sick.

Scum found.

VOTE: Anenienen

Also that post means WW is likely town, I will not be supporting that wagon while Aneninen lives.

how on earth does this mean WW is town

[Vertigo]

Whomping Willow is Pine.

Pine, Jackel, and 4nixty have all altslipped.

If you're going to vote Unlucky, why not just vote Kagamine with me? They're doing the same thing, Kagamine's just worse imo.

how can you tell who is who? last I checked, all the altslips have not identified themselves in the slip, and it was not something you could learn from reading them.

VOTE: Vertigo

Lazy to explain on mobile, basically gut and I don't like his posts because he sounds really jumpy and pushes seem superficial

aaaand another scum found

[Vertigo]

@Cursive 240: yes I'm backing him up. As far as I can tell, he is the most townie persona in the game, and his push on willow is completely legitimate, ISO willow.

@Aneninen 245: why would you be dead?

@Gutenbeeg 249: how can you ask me for content when a person like WW exists, AND vote neutger of us nearing deadline, in favor of a nonexistent wagon?

why am I town, and why am I the "most townie persona in the game"? and 100% agreed for the last line.

I find it suspicious that Kagamine did not cast a vote.
{Kagamine, Fault, Whomping Willow} for scumteam, remember I called it first

[Vertigo]

oh sorry you're already voting marshawn.

winter

Deadline is coming.

[Aronis]

Whomping Willow is Pine.

Pine, Jackel, and 4nixty have all altslipped.

If you're going to vote Unlucky, why not just vote Kagamine with me? They're doing the same thing, Kagamine's just worse imo.

how can you tell who is who? last I checked, all the altslips have not identified themselves in the slip, and it was not something you could learn from reading them.

VOTE: Vertigo

Lazy to explain on mobile, basically gut and I don't like his posts because he sounds really jumpy and pushes seem superficial

aaaand another scum found

Pine is obv willow. Cursive admitted she slipped. Jackel, I'm not sure about yet.

[Aronis]

And I just altslipped, dammit.

[MarshawnLynch24]

Unfortunately, Marshawn is still my top scumread. His posts are fickle and exhibit a form of childish immaturity. He pushes low-hanging fruit and is shooting from the peanut gallery; that is, he's low content yet attempts to stay under the radar by taking potshots at other slots.

I especially dislike his push on myself with his weak reasoning and pitiful appeals. There is a sense of scum trying to deflect the suspicion off himself and attempt to get a free mislynch due to the sluggish nature of the game.

Well my push on you paid off.

[Whomping Willow]

@Cursive 240: yes I'm backing him up. As far as I can tell, he is the most townie persona in the game, and his push on willow is completely legitimate, ISO willow.

@Aneninen 245: why would you be dead?

@Gutenbeeg 249: how can you ask me for content when a person like WW exists, AND vote neutger of us nearing deadline, in favor of a nonexistent wagon?

why am I town, and why am I the "most townie persona in the game"? and 100% agreed for the last line.

I find it suspicious that Kagamine did not cast a vote.
{Kagamine, Fault, Whomping Willow} for scumteam, remember I called it first

Scum scum interaction

[HeadsAndTails]

Soooo I get the omgus on Vert but what made you think *I* am scum?

[Whomping Willow]

I just said why. And it wasn't omgus, I was already scumreading him, I already explained this.

[INAUFTA]

I may be pretty much dead Tomorrow if WhompingWillow flips scum but this vote above was opportunistic as sick.

Scum found.

VOTE: Anenienen

Also that post means WW is likely town, I will not be supporting that wagon while Aneninen lives.

how on earth does this mean WW is town

Aneninen went the the if they flip scum approach, and when someone goes with an if like that, I think it's generally from scum. Especially when talking about they possibility of themselves dying.

I realize I'm currently pushing a global scum tell, but at this stage of the game I can't see reason for town to be seriously thinking along those lines.

[Cursive]

vote: Vertigo

@Cursive 240: yes I'm backing him up. As far as I can tell, he is the most townie persona in the game, and his push on willow is completely legitimate, ISO willow.

mmm eh I disagree
I mean I get how onelining can appear scummy
similar to how lurking always appears scummy (doesn't mean it is always legitmate)
Vertigo is taking advantage of that

recent string of posts by Vertigo look like an attempt to appear pro-town "LOOK how Active I AM Near DEADLINE"
the 'why am I town?' to HT = "Scum would never question someone for townreading them" angle

[Vertigo]

Eh fuck it. you deal with it. Not posting till DL.

[Vertigo]

From now on, this shall be called, "to pull a WW"

[Cursive]

Also, me going aggressive after what? being pinged by you? where did that happen?

Gutenburg saying you might be trying too hard and surface playing
Me agreeing with guten and adding the way you quote others when voting
And INAUFTA pointing out a feeling about the way you've been voting

[Whomping Willow]

Vertigo and Whomping Willow are the only viable lynches, anyone not voting one of them should be.

Hint: Vote Vertigo he's scum