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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:54 am

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meh
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:55 am

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Vote ABR


AP why are you voting for me?
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:56 am

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the next person to post that doesn't vote TT gets my vote
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:02 am

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Nero
so you are going to waste a vote to try to bully people into voting who you want them to vote for..... (ugh)

so we going to ignore the fact that ABR lied to get someone mislynched. Also that at the end of the day he flipp flopped trying to get a lynch. ABR just reeks of scum imho...
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:06 am

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House flipping 3rd party isn't exactly a mislynch bro.

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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:13 am

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I see it as such since we did not kill scum or anything threatning to the town such as a SK.. Again its how we view 3rd partys. I dont see them as nessarily bad especially early in the game. Also that doesnt change the fact of what ABR did which was to lie and manipulate the town into voting house.At best this is anti town at worst its straight up scummy
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:16 am

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I also see his Titus vote being weak as anything. Plus Titus is town.
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:20 am

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how can House set up his scum buddies when he flipped 3rd party. I am very confused on why you are saying House was scum
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:57 am

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So Nero has gone back to RVS...

Math is still scummy(You don't get town-cred for flip-flopping and only doing the pro-town thing once a wagon starts on you for doing the anti-town thing. I'm sorry, that was
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I think there's a good chance ABR is scum. His drop-off in intensity and activity seems uncharacteristic to his true scumhunting. I also
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have a hard time believing he would completely clear a strong scum-read based on one post, his own wiki page says that you need to focus on the few times scum slips up, not when they sound like town. Lastly, his re-entrance and push against House seemed off as well.

@Oz, I'd like to hear your response to 1607...
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:58 am

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TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Oz
how can House set up his scum buddies when he flipped 3rd party. I am very confused on why you are saying House was scum


Well he was non-town, he was obviously against us.

But I thought the Hackers were the scum equivalent in this theme? Am I mistaken? o_O
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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:59 am

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VOTE: Mathblade
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:04 am

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TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:
Vote ABR


AP why are you voting for me?

1597 looks fake to me. You are just shotgunning a lot of ideas out there and it doesn't look like you are trying to find scum, rather blend in.
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:08 am

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TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I see it as such since we did not kill scum or anything threatning to the town such as a SK.. Again its how we view 3rd partys. I dont see them as nessarily bad especially early in the game. Also that doesnt change the fact of what ABR did which was to lie and manipulate the town into voting house.At best this is anti town at worst its straight up scummy

I've been pretty deflated in my recent games, but I'm like 99% sure this is just flatly a scum mindset about ABR and House and nothing else.
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:37 am

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TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Nero
so you are going to waste a vote to try to bully people into voting who you want them to vote for..... (ugh)

so we going to ignore the fact that ABR lied to get someone mislynched. Also that at the end of the day he flipp flopped trying to get a lynch. ABR just reeks of scum imho...

A vote on TT is a waste .. because Nero is trying to get people to vote for him? uh....ok? TT is town if TFL flips scum based on this.

Right and ABR putting himself out there to get NOT TOWN lynched is clearly scum motivated.

TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Oz
how can House set up his scum buddies when he flipped 3rd party. I am very confused on why you are saying House was scum

Well house WAS scum so?

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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:10 am

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AP

House was 3rd party. 3rd parties are not scum. How in the world are you pushing House as scum ... I am baffled by your logic here. You also seem to be defending ABR for some reason. ABR is a big boy, I think he can defend himself. Your vote on me is just terrible. It also seems you are attacking me merely based on the fact I voted ABR.

As far as shotgunning I have targetted ABR for specific reasons. Unless I am misunderstanding you mean I dont see how I am shotgunning
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House was a third party... thus he was neither town or scum.
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:42 am

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Mod: Was House Third Party or Scum?


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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:54 am

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I am of the opinion that anyone who isn't town is scum, except maybe survivors and even then grey area.

I don't care though, you tryingto paint ABR scummy for lynching someone who wasn't town is terrible in a scummy way. I think you see House as 'not scum' becasue he isnt on your scum team.
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:09 pm

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Or you are trying to paint House as scum in order to mislynch me.....
I am still debating wether you are a town coming from a different POV or scum trying to get a mislynch. Right now I am starting to lean scum.
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:17 pm

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Reread the death thing and you might be right....hackers might be the scum.... if House is scum than I have to rethink things. If the mod can clear that up that would be great. I think I might be eating humble pie.....

if I am wrong than I owe AP an apology
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:20 pm

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That is if house is scum and not a third party
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:42 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm not a jailkeeper, I fakeclaimed because the town was buying into House's claim and I had to take the spotlight off of that to get him lynched.


Then why vote him at all? You were one of the ones voting him. If you honestly thought he was town and were fake claiming for that reason you should never have voted him as there was struggle to get 7. If you believed that you'd have voted me instead.
TroubledTownie wrote:So Nero has gone back to RVS...

Math is still scummy(You don't get town-cred for flip-flopping and only doing the pro-town thing once a wagon starts on you for doing the anti-town thing. I'm sorry, that was
horrible
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I think there's a good chance ABR is scum. His drop-off in intensity and activity seems uncharacteristic to his true scumhunting. I also
still
have a hard time believing he would completely clear a strong scum-read based on one post, his own wiki page says that you need to focus on the few times scum slips up, not when they sound like town. Lastly, his re-entrance and push against House seemed off as well.

@Oz, I'd like to hear your response to 1607...


@TroubledTownie -- Yes because if I was caught scum I would redirect pressure onto my scumbuddy. Like wtf are you smoking? <sarcasm>

ABR + TT/TFL (one or more of them)

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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:49 pm

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Titus wrote:
Mod: Was House Third Party or Scum?


Settling this now.


He's third party. I checked with the mod during the night.

MathBlade wrote:ABR + TT/TFL (one or more of them)

Vote ABR


Get off my back. Titus suspects you, I suspect Titus, and you suspect me. Something's wrong with you.

MathBlade wrote:Then why vote him at all? You were one of the ones voting him. If you honestly thought he was town and were fake claiming for that reason you should never have voted him as there was struggle to get 7. If you believed that you'd have voted me instead.


I thought he was scum fakeclaiming. Also claiming a PR would take off some of the "well if he gets NK'd tonight why lynch him today?" mentality. I thought only scum would fakeclaim like he did and gambitted.
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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:22 pm

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MathBlade wrote:
@TroubledTownie -- Yes because if I was caught scum I would redirect pressure onto my scumbuddy. Like wtf are you smoking? <sarcasm>


Appeal to ridicule. You know very well there are no hard and fast rules about what scum does and doesn't do. Distancing happens. So does bussing. So does every shade of grey in-between. Town shouldn't ridicule things like that, although scum has every reason to resort to such tactics.

If you're town... and that's a big if... then you have no place to take that kind of attitude. You wanted to lynch somebody over a detail that could be clarified by asking the mod, but you fought against that to push your lynch. If you're town, then that was horrible play, and we can't expect you to do much for the town this game.
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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:24 pm

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Mathblade you've really got to be a special kind of space cadet to attack me while I'm defending you and a whole bunch of the town is attacking you. You think if I was scum I wouldn't just make up a suspicion on you and ride that to your lynch with the help of my buddies? I would be all over that.
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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:25 pm

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I really want to suspect you, because you've been harassing me the entire game, but I don't see you as scum. Stop voting for me and direct your attention at Titus.
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