Open 587 - Nightless Vengeful Mayhem [Game Over]

[texcat]

Sup wagon is pretty garbage just by who is pushing it.

Huh? I have Morgan rather firmly planted on the townie side of my list. What makes you think otherwise?

Prod dodge! Slimey content later. Also ask me questions pls

UNVOTE: TheCow
VOTE: Slimer
Could you just answer some of the questions already asked like, what are your thoughts on Sup? Also, are you planning on voting D2? You were a Teapot voter on D1. What are your thoughts on Tea now?

Also, @Morgan, what are your thoughts on Tea? You were the original Teapot voter, weren't you?

[Wisdom]

Vote Count 2.2

Herodotus (3)

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Sup-Zero, Teapot, BBMolla

texcat (2)

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Herodotus, pisskop

Sup-Zero (1)

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Morgan

theslimer3 (1)

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texcat

Not Voting:

theslimer3, TheCow

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2015-03-01 01:15:23).

[BBmolla]

I got confused, I thought hero was pushing it.

[Herodotus]

Mod: a prod for Teapot please.

Reading day 1...

[Morgan]

Sup wagon is pretty garbage just by who is pushing it.

This is literally all you ever have to say about wagons. Give me a reason to care about your posts.

[Morgan]

Also, @Morgan, what are your thoughts on Tea? You were the original Teapot voter, weren't you?

Still don't see how Teapot is town. I'd happily switch back over.

[Teapot]

Sorry I haven't been so active, had some stuff I had to get rid off. I'm catching up.

[Sup-Zero]

Sup wagon is pretty garbage just by who is pushing it.

This is literally all you ever have to say about wagons. Give me a reason to care about your posts.

Considering that most of the people pushing me are basing their suspicions on hopes and dreams, I'd say that it's not too far from the truth.

Do you disagree with his assessment or what?

[Sup-Zero]

@Sup: It's not a theory. I thought you were very town until your response to the votes on me. After that, I thought you were town but kept that in mind. When Albert mentioned shooting you, I figured there might be reasons to suspect you and I read you in ISO. When I noticed your actions toward Astinus I felt uncomfortable so I'm asking you about them. I had a theory that would explain it and that wouldn't implicate you, but I wanted to hear it from you.

Which is why it only came up when ABR threatened to shoot me. Sure.

Yes, it's exactly why I only mentioned it then. I never felt like it was worth doubting your towniness until Albert requested that the rest of us critically examine you.

Would you expect otherwise?

My current theory is that the strangeness of that can be attributed in some way to your being a hydra. As I said, though, I was hoping you would provide an explanation because I don't like to spoon-feed it to you.

Yes.

[BBmolla]

Sup wagon is pretty garbage just by who is pushing it.

This is literally all you ever have to say about wagons. Give me a reason to care about your posts.

You don't have to care about them. I'm just giving my thoughts, take em or leave em.

[Herodotus]

So uh, vettrocks not scum. I'm not allowed to say why due to site rules, I'll say no more.

Teapot, can you say any more about this? Since your conclusion was false, something is up here.

If you can't say gimme a guesstimate on how long you've been playing here

This, or Teapot, have we played together before? I'm guessing no because I don't recognize your posting style.

I feel that Sup-Zero is acting on an emotional basis, rather than because they are looking for a mislynch. I don't get a scummy vibe right now.

@BBMolla: Avoiding a wagon on the basis of my reads is a terrible excuse. Are you now in favor of lynching Sup-zero?
Also, you had Cow and Morgan as Albert buddies yesterday. Does town-Albert -> town-Cow or town-Morgan to you?

Some day 1 notes:

Texcat looks a little not-Vett-buddy for voting Vettrock: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p6569632
Zymf(BBM) looks slightly not-scum for the

phrasing

of the response to Teapot: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6571618
Very confident that texcat and Teapot aren't buddies: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p6576675
Teapot looks not-Vett-buddy for switching from Albert to Vett: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6586138
Morgan doesn't get as much credit because they quickly wanted to switch to Teapot.

This post from theslimer3 ignores all three of the major pushes (vett, albert, teapot): http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p6587440

Did you roll jester?

Scum tend to speculate on jesters more often than town because they know the person they're accusing isn't scum, so being scum doesn't explain the behaviour. That post looks very scummy. Wants no responsibility for voting Teapot:

You sure seem testy when it comes to a lynch. Not sure if it's scum motivated since they know that there's a vig kill lingering over their heads.

VOTE: Teapot
Because I can say that I think the ABR gambit is probably not scum. I'm going to safely drink the wine placed in front of me

unvote; vote: theslimer3

Post 192 also looks bad from slimer now that vett has flipped scum.

[BBmolla]

Are you now in favor of lynching Sup-zero?

Not really. Why do you think he's scum

[BBmolla]

Scum tend to speculate on jesters more often than town because they know the person they're accusing isn't scum, so being scum doesn't explain the behaviour. That post looks very scummy.

This post looks very scummy.

[Teapot]

Ok, time to answer some stuff. I thought that Vettrock wasn't scum due to some town meta on another ongoing game I had recieved spoilers for after dying. It's now ended so I may reveal this, however I was wrong.
I am going to to unvote and reread, any questions I need to answer?
UNVOTE: Hero

[Herodotus]

Are you now in favor of lynching Sup-zero?

Not really. Why do you think he's scum

[pisskop]

Sup is kinda scummy.

Evasive and terrible reasons for existing. I can't speak for Shinobi, but his other head plays much this way as scum.

161 was him on his buddy Vettrock. Wonder why that wagon grew so fast . . .

Texcat reads in Posts 165, 190, 288, and then his backflip in 523; despite texcat having done nothing to improve anything ever.

unvote

vote: Sup

Stop being wifomy and silly and Lynch It/Them.

[pisskop]

Also, Heroes aren't scum, and I doubt this one is any different.

[Sup-Zero]

Sup is kinda scummy.

Evasive and terrible reasons for existing. I can't speak for Shinobi,

but his other head plays much this way as scum.

161 was him on his buddy Vettrock. Wonder why that wagon grew so fast . . .

Texcat reads in Posts 165, 190, 288, and then his backflip in 523; despite texcat having done nothing to improve anything ever.

unvote

vote: Sup

Stop being wifomy and silly and Lynch It/Them.

You're gonna have to provide evidence of the bolded instead of telling us that it's true because of nothing.

Second point is hilariously untrue and any of kind "buddying" you're pulling from that post is a complete lie.
There was no readsflip on texcat. Asking someone for their opinion on another player does not imply any kind of readsflip, especially when I came back later and said texcat was probably scum anyway.

This will be the only time I address this vote. If you continue to push this case I'm just going to assume it's a scumclaim, because that's how bad it is.

[pisskop]

Lulz out of all the scummy things I've pointed out, you want to point out the meta part?

[Sup-Zero]

Good to know you've completely ignored everything else that I said.

[Sup-Zero]

So, what, you can't back up your point on meta anyway even after I pointed it out or what?

[pisskop]

Second point is hilariously untrue and any of kind "buddying" you're pulling from that post is a complete lie.

I will ask you to read my posts before responding. I accuse you of jumping on your buddy's wagon, not buddying you scumbuddy.

There was no readsflip on texcat. Asking someone for their opinion on another player does not imply any kind of readsflip, especially when I came back later and said texcat was probably scum anyway.

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Texcat has shown no real interest in sifting through any of the people she's talking about. I have yet to see her reads on any of these players and it looks like someone pushing mafia objectives and casting doubt across as many players as possible.

hmmm

Why vettrock or texcat?

hmmmmm

Xay and I came to the conclusion that we want to lynch Hero and maybe texcat.

hmmmmmmmmm

We haven't talked about texcat much.

hmmmmm maybe I'm missing something

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So, what, you can't back up your point on meta anyway even after I pointed it out or what?

Are you asking to provide evidence scumXay flipflops, vote their buddies, and bus their buddies?
. Its been a year since I played with Xay, and I'm not in for all that. My points stand by themselves without me rooting around for old games.

[pisskop]

I'll concede the point about his meta. Been too long.

[Shinobi]

I know what you're saying about my supposed buddy's wagon, but it's still kind of baseless. What's the difference between town and scum voting vettrock?

Scumread on texcat is still consistent and even if it wasn't saying that "it's not consistent" without pointing to any of texcat's posts where she's doing things and saying "there's nothing there" is useless. Even then I admitted that it's my idea to scum read texcat and not xay's.

[Sup-Zero]

I know what you're saying about my supposed buddy's wagon, but it's still kind of baseless. What's the difference between town and scum voting vettrock?

Scumread on texcat is still consistent and even if it wasn't saying that "it's not consistent" without pointing to any of texcat's posts where she's doing things and saying "there's nothing there" is useless. Even then I admitted that it's my idea to scum read texcat and not xay's.