Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[TroubledTownie]

I probably shouldn't because I consider lurking scummy. I will probably have a better read

once she defends herself

.

Why are you resisting Ozigin?

That's the point... shos didn't defend himself. He replied to my posts, but ignored every valid point I brought up, and instead attacked me from a new shallow angle.

[Ozgin]

So you are trying to pull the emotional card ozigin again? because thats all I am reading


I already destroyed that argument I can even link you the page because you sound like a broken record.

So I wanted to let this cool down a bit. For the record, I'm not playing the emotional card, I was shaking you up to spite you. I also doubted you, so I was hoping to make you angry and make you slip.

I'm willing to set aside kiwi for now, though. But I'm not as willing to jump onto the shos wagon yet.

I am not setting aside someone who scum slipped.

VOTE: Ozgin

This is gonna earn my vote, because we've already talked about this, Math. It wasn't a slip. I even clarified the statement before you even said it was a slip.

VOTE: Math

I probably shouldn't because I consider lurking scummy. I will probably have a better read

once she defends herself

.

Why are you resisting Ozigin?

That's the point... shos didn't defend himself. He replied to my posts, but ignored every valid point I brought up, and instead attacked me from a new shallow angle.

Can you do me a favor? I might just be really blind here since you guys seem to be adamant on it: Can you quote a post where you presented a point or points against shos, and then point to his (poor) response and counter-points?

[TroubledTownie]

All the relevant posts are quoted in the spoiler below.

In 1760 shos votes for me for pushing a policy lynch. In 1768 I correct him, reminding him that I've specifically been trying to get mollie to participate so we wouldn't have to resort to one. Shos never responds to that point.

Instead, he accused me of just pushing mollie as a way to appear to be scumhunting in 1769. I correct him, pointing out that I haven't been trying to pass that off as scumhunting, and that I've been doing other things as well. Shos never responds to that point.

I engage shos in 1771, asking him to share his reasoning for his initial scumread on me. Shos never responds.(None of his early reads were explained, it was just active-lurking shallow bs).

Shos defends mollie's play as being good because she was on the house wagon. I point out that, in her own words, that was because she pulled a Nero=town read "out of her ass", and "blatantly sheeped" Nero's vote. Shos never responds to this. (Noticing a pattern?)

Instead he makes another filler pot-shot at me in 1806.

Ah, I forgot to include this one. In 1904 shos accuses me of only attacking people who scumread me. I showed how ridiculously false that was in 1905. Shos never responds to this.

Spoiler: Reference

I find the way that TT and fuzzy attack mollie scummy. It is hard ebough to replace into a 40-page game, moreso now that it is 70. The sinple answer to yiu two is give us time. You just dont policy lynch, is that hard? Use the info that you DO have.

Mollie, joon me on TT. Ive gotten a scumread on him earlier too.
VOTE: troubledTownie

I find the way that TT and fuzzy attack mollie scummy. It is hard ebough to replace into a 40-page game, moreso now that it is 70. The sinple answer to yiu two is give us time. You just dont policy lynch, is that hard? Use the info that you DO have.

Mollie, joon me on TT. Ive gotten a scumread on him earlier too.
VOTE: troubledTownie

I agree, you don't just policy lynch.

That's why I haven't been pushing a policy lynch.

Yes, it's hard to replace into a 40-page game, but mollie refuses to read those 40 pages, then complains about not knowing what's going on. Please, explain to me how that's not anti-town? I don't want to PL her, I want her to contribute or replace out.

Do you always play this bad? You think it's scummy that I don't like anti-town behavior?

No, but I think the level of delegitimization and attention you gave mollie for simply not playing

how you want

is just a way to appear like you're hunting scum.

FIFY

You're being ridiculous. I'm not focusing only on mollie, but

I will not leave a player alone if they refuse to RTFT, and don't contribute

. In the last 10 days, she's basically done nothing but prod-dodge.

It sucks having to wait for players to catch up. I want Math lynched, but I need you and mollie to read through Math's play in D1 before we can discuss it.

However, since you're actually engaging, I do have a few questions for you.

TT is scum too.

Care to elaborate? Naked reads aren't very helpful.

No I don't make illegal requests to mods when scum beg me to fix their fuckup. I just vote them.

What do you think of this entire push by Math to get Titus lynched? Math explicitly refused to ask the mod to clarify about his own racial ability, while using that imperfect knowledge to push Titus as a liar.

No, but I think the level of delegitimization and attention you gave mollie for simply not playing

how you want

is just a way to appear like you're hunting scum.

FIFY

You're being ridiculous. I'm not focusing only on mollie, but

I will not leave a player alone if they refuse to RTFT, and don't contribute

. In the last 10 days, she's basically done nothing but prod-dodge.

It sucks having to wait for players to catch up. I want Math lynched, but I need you and mollie to read through Math's play in D1 before we can discuss it.

You'll have to excuse me for a sec here, but, as far as I know, this:

Looking for an acryon replacement.

Patch 1.1.7 Vote Count

MathBlade (4):

GGG,

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,TroubledTownie, Xombie

House (4):

Nero Cain, kiwieagle, MathBlade, pirate mollie

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(1):

ABR

kiwieagle (1):

Ozgin

Nero Cain (1):

House

Not Voting (2):

TheFuzzylogic99, acryon
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Tier 1 (8):

House, Nero Cain, TroubledTownie,

Ozgin

, pirate mollie, TheFuzzylogic99, GGG, acryon

Tier 3 (3):

ABR, kiwieagle,

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Deadline: Day 1 ends in (expired on 2015-02-10 11:40:00).

Shows that despite "doing nothing" her vote was on the correct wagon. So however long she takes to start playing, you could use the rest of the playerlist for your scumhunting. And I didn't even mention the fact that I think Math is town, so that was the vote that made the wagon break through over math's wagon..

please.

You'll have to excuse me for a sec here, but, as far as I know, this:

...

Shows that despite "doing nothing" her vote was on the correct wagon. So however long she takes to start playing, you could use the rest of the playerlist for your scumhunting. And I didn't even mention the fact that I think Math is town, so that was the vote that made the wagon break through over math's wagon..

please.

Please. She pulled a Nero=town vote out of her ass(her words), and then blatantly sheeped him(her words). Just because that happened to be a good wagon doesn't mean she's not being anti-town.

She went 10 days after that vote without doing anything other than post total crap. I still don't know why you're taking issue with me trying to get a slot to participate.

pedit - No, we wanted Math to ask about the ability, not ask the mod to change his with multiple colors. I take that 'illegal' as Math desperately trying to push that wagon without anybody clarifying the point with the mod.

It's scummy as hell that he was only willing to ask the mod(how is asking the mod a question via PM ever illegal???) once he started getting votes on his wagon specifically because of that.

TT, your 'engaged' is at best a ring-thing, lol. you basically just yelled 'READ THE THREAD'. you think I did read it?

[kiwieagle]

so whose scum for you TT?

I can see tt ozigin math... maybe. Maybe either ozigin or math trying to get attention away from shos?

I mean the fact that Ozigin suddenly is willing to "set me aside" because hes scum scared of getting lynched just proves me he is scum but now the issue is getting him lynched.

[MathBlade]

@Ozgin -- and I didn't and still don't buy your "clarification"

@All -- kiwi is town. I think I understand what is going on. AP and Kiwi's read on Ozgin I agree with and he is scum.
Kiwi feel free to lynch me.

@All -- I really wish there was a way to check Titus :/ I can't figure out if she's derpy Titus or intentionally derpy Titus

[kiwieagle]

so whose scum for you TT?

I can see tt ozigin math... maybe. Maybe either ozigin or math trying to get attention away from shos?

I mean the fact that Ozigin suddenly is willing to "set me aside" because hes scum scared of getting lynched just proves me he is scum but now the issue is getting him lynched.

huh oops I said that wrong


I can see shos ozigin math... maybe. Maybe with either ozigin or math being scum trying to get attention away from shos? I guess?

[kiwieagle]

Still I think I am right with ozigin so ...

[MathBlade]

Then let's do this

Because we gotta lynch the scum.

[shos]

It sucks shit but math does this all the time. She forgets scum would not doubt town alignment after the sk flipped.

This post is super true.
should check who was the first to doubt the SK flip.

[TroubledTownie]

so whose scum for you TT?

I can see tt ozigin math... maybe. Maybe either ozigin or math trying to get attention away from shos?

I mean the fact that Ozigin suddenly is willing to "set me aside" because hes scum scared of getting lynched just proves me he is scum but now the issue is getting him lynched.

shos, math, tfl are the ones I'm most suspicious of.

[shos]

VOTE: TT

[TroubledTownie]

VOTE: TT

What made up reason are you going to come up with this time?

[shos]

same made up reasons from earlier

[shos]

add misrepping with that posts above but meh

[Ozgin]

Then let's do this

Because we gotta lynch the scum.

If this isn't Eve feeding the apple to Adam, I don't know what is.



Okay TT, I can buy into that. But I still think MathBlade is just as strong of a candidate for scum seeing how hard she's pushing for me...

And notice how my question posed to everyone about describing what you think you've done to show your township has gone completely under the radar once Math and kiwi started this anti-me campaign...

Kiwi, I'm suddenly so willing to put you aside because Titus and TT both raised points that I found valid. You're the one still chasing me here. Just put your

emotions

(see what I did there?) to the side and think objectively.

add misrepping with that posts above but meh

But can you counter any of his argument is what I'm more interested in?

[Ozgin]

Also,

Vote Tier 2

For what it's still worth.

[TroubledTownie]

add misrepping with that posts above but meh

You're going to accuse me of misrepping? That's choice.

I really, truly, sincerely hope this isn't your town game.

same made up reasons from earlier

Ah, great.

[shos]

of course. I think I already have, but if I didn't, then somewhen else, not now

[MathBlade]

Then let's do this

Because we gotta lynch the scum.

If this isn't Eve feeding the apple to Adam, I don't know what is.



Okay TT, I can buy into that. But I still think MathBlade is just as strong of a candidate for scum seeing how hard she's pushing for me...

And notice how my question posed to everyone about describing what you think you've done to show your township has gone completely under the radar once Math and kiwi started this anti-me campaign...

Kiwi, I'm suddenly so willing to put you aside because Titus and TT both raised points that I found valid. You're the one still chasing me here. Just put your

emotions

(see what I did there?) to the side and think objectively.

add misrepping with that posts above but meh

But can you counter any of his argument is what I'm more interested in?

I never "prove" my township. I am town and that's the way it is. I will continue being me and people will see it or not. I don't have to convince scum I'm town they know it so your question is utter crap.

There now since I've stated why I'm ignoring your useless fluff question with pointless graphics we can move on and get scum now.

[Ozgin]

Then let's do this

Because we gotta lynch the scum.

If this isn't Eve feeding the apple to Adam, I don't know what is.



Okay TT, I can buy into that. But I still think MathBlade is just as strong of a candidate for scum seeing how hard she's pushing for me...

And notice how my question posed to everyone about describing what you think you've done to show your township has gone completely under the radar once Math and kiwi started this anti-me campaign...

Kiwi, I'm suddenly so willing to put you aside because Titus and TT both raised points that I found valid. You're the one still chasing me here. Just put your

emotions

(see what I did there?) to the side and think objectively.

add misrepping with that posts above but meh

But can you counter any of his argument is what I'm more interested in?

I never "prove" my township. I am town and that's the way it is. I will continue being me and people will see it or not. I don't have to convince scum I'm town they know it so your question is utter crap.

There now since I've stated why I'm ignoring your useless fluff question with pointless graphics we can move on and get scum now.

Dismiss my "fluff" all you want, it just makes you look bad.

Go ahead and lynch me. I'm town, and when you all go into LyLo because I got mislynched, you'll see about kiwi and Math.

[MathBlade]

As I'm town and I'm PDS that kiwi is town I'm okay with that. Hell I'd bet the game on the fact kiwi is town at this point.

[Titus]

^^^ Massive buddying.

Ozgin is town. His posts read textbook town. I am explaining why he's town.

Shos meanwhile is textbook scum. He's not pushing things at all.

Ozgin and kiwi stop attacking each other.

Look at the support you have for the wagons. It's people that are generally suspected by us or at least known to be derping.

[kiwieagle]

Titus
heres a hypothetical:

Ok we lynch shos he flips town.
4-3

Who do you vote?

[Titus]

Give me the names on the wagon. I would start with VCA.

[Titus]

Supposing you me TT and Ozgin, I would vote Math most likely.