Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[TroubledTownie]

wow

alright, no point in pointing out all the other lies he's cooked up if you're not even able to acknowledge objective facts.

Not that it matters to you, but
1)Ludicrous. I was pushing you, engaging Nero, engaging titus, engaging AP, and yes, pressuring mollie to contribute.
2)You think I misrepped him? ::facepalm::
3)It wasn't just 'not reading the thread'. She wasn't doing anything. She went 10 days without posting anything other than prod dodges. Her only vote was sheeping a read she pulled out of her ass.
4)It's so sad you either can't recognize, or can't acknowledge, the crap he's posting. You just avoid the details like he does.

[TroubledTownie]

You know what Math, I'll give you one more chance to accept facts.

Shos said I was scummy for pushing a policy lynch on mollie. Was that crap, or can you quote where I did?

It's simple. It's not out of context. It's yes, or no.

I'll give you a hint:

sorry but I don't have a scum pt/qt whatever the fuck they have to explain a goddamn thing to me so I have to sort this on my

Sorry, but I don't have a lot of empathy for someone who won't read the thread 'having to sort through this on your own'. You

can't

without reading the thread.

also...who exactly am I pl-ing?

I'm saying I don't want us to have to policy lynch you.

erm, this isn't what I am doing at all?

like not at all in way shape or form?

why are you trying to nix my efforts to get into the game?

Yeah, it pretty much is. You haven't posted anything remotely useful for 10 days, and even then it wasn't much other than pulling a Nero=town read "out of your ass" and then "blatantly sheeping" him.

Spoiler: Nothing

hi guys

wats going on

tl;dr version cos I am not reading any of this shit

I am town and House is scum now sheep me

nero I need more than that perfunctory kiss!

tl;dr version cos I am not reading any of this shit

We don't need a second replacement who's not going to read the game...

too bad.

I am asking for a tl;dr version do you think can produce 1?

I am still not reading the previous 40 pages but I am just going to pull this out of my ass and say nero is probs town.

First off Its Pirate Molly..Yeah ( Now you better not be scum)

Second...I am not lurking as much as being distracted. Totally jacked up on Pepsi,,,, ADD and Pepsi a perfect combination ( Not).Also I am Human bc I always play Human when I play WOW.

I feel like I stumbled into a private conversation that some1 is having with themselves here. I have no idea as to who this is directed to or even what this post is about.

is ozgin scum? why are they in red? why is titus's name in funny colours?

I am going to die of old age before a lynch actually happens aren't I

I have 9 new wrinkles while this thread happened.

I am having a very hard time getting engaged with this game. nero, ap, shos cld you plz be dears and help me get engaged?

[Titus]

Yeah, I mean I don't want to vote shos. But I feel that if I had to choose between shos and TT I would vote shos.
How doesn't that sound true lol?

Because I have been pushing towards a shos wagon consensus. You have avoided voting that wagon for pages. You had the opportuntity to vote TT or shos and you voted TT despite there being no wagon on TT.

Your willingness to vote shos sounds hollow.

[MathBlade]

1) That is my point. You look to be lynch shopping rather than scumhunting.
2) Yes I do.
3) Agree to disagree.
4) Insulting me is not adding/explaining anything.

Your entire posts are just insulting me and do not add anything to the thread other than you believe you are smarter than me which may very well be true. But to be honest I'm pretty damn close to replacing out here because I don't give a shit anymore.

Anytime I figure someone as scum and someone I play with disagrees it's "Oh it's MathBlade" while ignoring the arguments.
Anytime I disagree with someone's reads It's MathBlade is stupid.

So yeah you may be right but I don't give two shits right now and I'm hoping maybe after I sleep I'll actually give a damn. Because I don't see what you are saying. Especially with the misrep of Shos again that I said was a misrep and I feel still is. I get you're passionate but I don't care. Hell tbh I would just want to shoot you to bring someone who is protown and willing to talk back in the thread regardless of your alignment. Don't get me wrong I think you're scum with Titus and Ozgin and how coordinated you are is just plain creepy but this game is about fun not insulting someone into submission.

[TroubledTownie]

You're unbelievable. I can quote shos, and then quote myself, showing that he's the one misrepping me, but you won't listen. I make very clear, numbered points, and you say I'm just insulting you and adding nothing to the thread. Then you accuse me of misrepping shos(by quoting him???), twice, but you don't bother to explain it.

If you find people aren't listening to you, maybe there's a reason. Town can't get anywhere with players who can't even acknowledge the facts of what has been posted and what hasn't.

I'm tired too, this is an awesome setup that has been plagued by non-contributing posters, non-contributing replacements, and out-of-thread communication. Give a damn if you want, it's your choice. I give a damn which is why I'm trying so hard to get you(supposing you're even town) to acknowledge lazy, scummy play. But you won't.

BTW, engaging a player doesn't mean you're looking to lynch them, I was pointing out that I wasn't exclusively focusing mollie like you said. Hell, that doesn't even make sense.

1) IMO it isn't that you're scummy for poking Molloe it is that you were doing it to the exclusion of all others.

1) That is my point. You look to be lynch shopping rather than scumhunting.

So which was it, was I exclusively poking mollie, ignoring everything else, or was I lynch shopping?

[shos]

also...who exactly am I pl-ing?

I'm saying I don't want us to have to policy lynch you.

Where I learnes english, saying "dont make me hurt you" means you want to hurt. If you say that and then take it back that doesnt help you.

Also, funny how many times you repeated the same 10 days rhythm in your iso

Like aeriously ctrl f 10 ahahahaha


Fucking phineposting

[shos]

yeah I'm ok with this dying today.

vote:TT

Also just for reference

And id note my first post of the day for later

[TroubledTownie]

also...who exactly am I pl-ing?

I'm saying I don't want us to have to policy lynch you.

Where I learnes english, saying "dont make me hurt you" means you want to hurt. If you say that and then take it back that doesnt help you.

Also, funny how many times you repeated the same 10 days rhythm in your iso

Like aeriously ctrl f 10 ahahahaha


Fucking phineposting

Ohhhh, I get it. All you have to do is take the opposite of what I said and that's what I really said!

That must have been what I meant when I said it here too:

Lurking is a reason to get a player replaced, not lynched. Look at my newbie game(we had 3 lurkers in 1 slot replaced... town player),

I would much rather get a new person who will contribute than resort to a policy lynch.

Did it really take you this long to come up with an explanation for your initial reason for voting me?

[AngryPidgeon]

I've been prodded. I'm getting my head in this game now. Sorry, modkill was kind of demoralizing

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: Tier 2

Given the gamestate, a protective role is best.

Buy Tier 2

I agree with this.

My ass is very sexy and correct thank you. My win con is awesome and is town's. Duh.

Ya I'm not lynching Math Today. Like I think she's been pretty town from everything I've read. Can someone summarize why they think shes scum for me? (Titus?)

If their reads suck balls why the fuck would you vote T3 which gives possibility of vigilante?

Because she thinks the people with shitty reads are scum anyhow (and potentially unable to get one of the Prs for that reason potentially anyways?) Kiwi you need to stop jumping on every little thing. It sure seems like you've called the entire game scummy at some point.

@ Everyone: Let's be blunt. Are you town-aligned? Can you point to any posts where you feel you've earned your merit as a town? If you've made any particular mistakes, can you explain them?

I haven't been super engaged since the Day start, so that is pretty much a mistake :/ I'd really like to know where you are goign with this generic line of inquiry though. Wow me.

If the mod confirms that all random bids go to town, will you at least try to give us an explanation as to why you're town?

I don't see why these 2 thoughts are related. Help me out.

[shos]

also...who exactly am I pl-ing?

I'm saying I don't want us to have to policy lynch you.

Where I learnes english, saying "dont make me hurt you" means you want to hurt. If you say that and then take it back that doesnt help you.

Also, funny how many times you repeated the same 10 days rhythm in your iso

Like aeriously ctrl f 10 ahahahaha


Fucking phineposting

Ohhhh, I get it. All you have to do is take the opposite of what I said and that's what I really said!

That must have been what I meant when I said it here too:

Lurking is a reason to get a player replaced, not lynched. Look at my newbie game(we had 3 lurkers in 1 slot replaced... town player),

I would much rather get a new person who will contribute than resort to a policy lynch.

Did it really take you this long to come up with an explanation for your initial reason for voting me?

This is again, aayong "dont wabna policy lynch u". Same thing exactly, it is a threat. "Do what i think is good or i will, very aadly, have to compromise on a polivy lynch of yoh"

[shos]

The useof "have to" and "resort" in both your posts is main cause. You're aaying "i dont qant to, but i have no choice"

[AngryPidgeon]

Actually that claim was just so fucking bad I can't see it coming from town

VOTE: Ozigin

Kiwi is being jumpy ith suspicions today which looks like someone being overly critical, but posts like this and the next one with fervor like this look pretty town. Gonna go with my gut and say he still a probable townie here.

Like in my mind Shos is an easy lynch and thats what scum want.

Being an easy lynch doesn't mean someone is town. Why is shos town and/or why is he obviously a scum led mislynch?

@Ozgin: Ok, why is Math scummy? Your push on Kiwi and post about it in 2014 looks shockingly as if you decided to back off from Kiwi in lieu of an easier wagon once you met resistance to pushing him. Further, the talking to Math right after this is like you are talking to a townie despite stating shes scummy.

Lynching one of you does not prove the alignment of the other.

I'm also having a hard time seeing this post coming from someone who thinks Math is obviously scum.

Ozgin, I think Math is town

Wait what. Clearly Im missing something here.

You said I was scummy for pushing for a policy lynch, but I was explicitly speaking out against one.

You did? Because I remember you pressuring mollie over... policy an awful lot.

Speaking of mollie, wth is happening with that slot.

1)Ludicrous. I was pushing you, engaging Nero,

Oh, not a huge point but I want to look over TT/Nero interactions again. I remember thinking that TT was potentially someone who would want to NK nero.

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: TFL

Still more confident here than anywhere else so I'mma help Kiwi out.

[shos]

yeah I'm ok with this dying today.

vote:TT

Also just for reference

And id note my first post of the day for later

@AP

[AngryPidgeon]

^ I'd like to look back a little more than that, but this is part of what sparked my interest there.

[shos]

So I have a first scumread on titus, and townreads on NC, Math and whatshisname with the green avatar

TT is scum too.

Justnoting: these were and still are my reads, and that was befpre TT started fighting me.

Wgatshisbame is kiwi. Nero flipped town.

No, but I think the level of delegitimization and attention you gave mollie for simply not playing how you want is just a way to appear like you're hunting scum.

No, but I think the level of delegitimization and attention you gave mollie for simply not playing

how you want

is just a way to appear like you're hunting scum.

FIFY

You're being ridiculous. I'm not focusing only on mollie, but

I will not leave a player alone if they refuse to RTFT, and don't contribute

. In the last 10 days, she's basically done nothing but prod-dodge.

It sucks having to wait for players to catch up. I want Math lynched, but I need you and mollie to read through Math's play in D1 before we can discuss it.

You'll have to excuse me for a sec here, but, as far as I know, this:

Looking for an acryon replacement.

Patch 1.1.7 Vote Count

MathBlade (4):

GGG,

T

i

t

u

s

,TroubledTownie, Xombie

House (4):

Nero Cain, kiwieagle, MathBlade, pirate mollie

T

i

t

u

s

(1):

ABR

kiwieagle (1):

Ozgin

Nero Cain (1):

House

Not Voting (2):

TheFuzzylogic99, acryon
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Tier 1 (8):

House, Nero Cain, TroubledTownie,

Ozgin

, pirate mollie, TheFuzzylogic99, GGG, acryon

Tier 3 (3):

ABR, kiwieagle,

T

i

t

u

s

Deadline: Day 1 ends in (expired on 2015-02-10 11:40:00).

Shows that despite "doing nothing" her vote was on the correct wagon. So however long she takes to start playing, you could use the rest of the playerlist for your scumhunting. And I didn't even mention the fact that I think Math is town, so that was the vote that made the wagon break through over math's wagon..

please.

you kept nullifying that vote becaise it was just sheeping. Well, sprry to be rhe one to break it for you but, if I vote scum, it dpea not matter why I vpte scum.

Where is your scumhunting un the rest of the players? Who aee scum "with" me and mollie?

[shos]

I dun feel like qorjinf so ill commwnt inside_____s.

All the relevant posts are quoted in the spoiler below.

In 1760 shos votes for me for pushing a policy lynch. In 1768 I correct him, reminding him that I've specifically been trying to get mollie to participate so we wouldn't have to resort to one. Shos never responds to that point. _____'so i wouldnt have to resort to one'. Please. A townie wouls try to get mollie tocontribute; without the extra threat.______

Instead, he accused me of just pushing mollie as a way to appear to be scumhunting in 1769. I correct him, pointing out that I haven't been trying to pass that off as scumhunting, and that I've been doing other things as well. Shos never responds to that point._____as if "i havent been tryinf to paas that off as scumhubting" is a confirmable statement. Also i dont see any other rhings___,,,

I engage shos in 1771, asking him to share his reasoning for his initial scumread on me. Shos never responds.(None of his early reads were explained, it was just active-lurking shallow bs).____not going to go through the entire game for you. Mescuzzy______

Shos defends mollie's play as being good because she was on the house wagon. I point out that, in her own words, that was because she pulled a Nero=town read "out of her ass", and "blatantly sheeped" Nero's vote. Shos never responds to this. (Noticing a pattern?) ____see my post above___

Instead he makes another filler pot-shot at me in 1806.

Ah, I forgot to include this one. In 1904 shos accuses me of only attacking people who scumread me. I showed how ridiculously false that was in 1905. Shos never responds to this. ____so, which ones of your scumreads townreads you? Buttom pine, please. Dont forgwt to include the dead NC__,,

Spoiler: Reference

I find the way that TT and fuzzy attack mollie scummy. It is hard ebough to replace into a 40-page game, moreso now that it is 70. The sinple answer to yiu two is give us time. You just dont policy lynch, is that hard? Use the info that you DO have.

Mollie, joon me on TT. Ive gotten a scumread on him earlier too.
VOTE: troubledTownie

I find the way that TT and fuzzy attack mollie scummy. It is hard ebough to replace into a 40-page game, moreso now that it is 70. The sinple answer to yiu two is give us time. You just dont policy lynch, is that hard? Use the info that you DO have.

Mollie, joon me on TT. Ive gotten a scumread on him earlier too.
VOTE: troubledTownie

I agree, you don't just policy lynch.

That's why I haven't been pushing a policy lynch.

Yes, it's hard to replace into a 40-page game, but mollie refuses to read those 40 pages, then complains about not knowing what's going on. Please, explain to me how that's not anti-town? I don't want to PL her, I want her to contribute or replace out.

Do you always play this bad? You think it's scummy that I don't like anti-town behavior?

No, but I think the level of delegitimization and attention you gave mollie for simply not playing

how you want

is just a way to appear like you're hunting scum.

FIFY

You're being ridiculous. I'm not focusing only on mollie, but

I will not leave a player alone if they refuse to RTFT, and don't contribute

. In the last 10 days, she's basically done nothing but prod-dodge.

It sucks having to wait for players to catch up. I want Math lynched, but I need you and mollie to read through Math's play in D1 before we can discuss it.

However, since you're actually engaging, I do have a few questions for you.

TT is scum too.

Care to elaborate? Naked reads aren't very helpful.

No I don't make illegal requests to mods when scum beg me to fix their fuckup. I just vote them.

What do you think of this entire push by Math to get Titus lynched? Math explicitly refused to ask the mod to clarify about his own racial ability, while using that imperfect knowledge to push Titus as a liar.

No, but I think the level of delegitimization and attention you gave mollie for simply not playing

how you want

is just a way to appear like you're hunting scum.

FIFY

You're being ridiculous. I'm not focusing only on mollie, but

I will not leave a player alone if they refuse to RTFT, and don't contribute

. In the last 10 days, she's basically done nothing but prod-dodge.

It sucks having to wait for players to catch up. I want Math lynched, but I need you and mollie to read through Math's play in D1 before we can discuss it.

You'll have to excuse me for a sec here, but, as far as I know, this:

Looking for an acryon replacement.

Patch 1.1.7 Vote Count

MathBlade (4):

GGG,

T

i

t

u

s

,TroubledTownie, Xombie

House (4):

Nero Cain, kiwieagle, MathBlade, pirate mollie

T

i

t

u

s

(1):

ABR

kiwieagle (1):

Ozgin

Nero Cain (1):

House

Not Voting (2):

TheFuzzylogic99, acryon
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Tier 1 (8):

House, Nero Cain, TroubledTownie,

Ozgin

, pirate mollie, TheFuzzylogic99, GGG, acryon

Tier 3 (3):

ABR, kiwieagle,

T

i

t

u

s

Deadline: Day 1 ends in (expired on 2015-02-10 11:40:00).

Shows that despite "doing nothing" her vote was on the correct wagon. So however long she takes to start playing, you could use the rest of the playerlist for your scumhunting. And I didn't even mention the fact that I think Math is town, so that was the vote that made the wagon break through over math's wagon..

please.

You'll have to excuse me for a sec here, but, as far as I know, this:

...

Shows that despite "doing nothing" her vote was on the correct wagon. So however long she takes to start playing, you could use the rest of the playerlist for your scumhunting. And I didn't even mention the fact that I think Math is town, so that was the vote that made the wagon break through over math's wagon..

please.

Please. She pulled a Nero=town vote out of her ass(her words), and then blatantly sheeped him(her words). Just because that happened to be a good wagon doesn't mean she's not being anti-town.

She went 10 days after that vote without doing anything other than post total crap. I still don't know why you're taking issue with me trying to get a slot to participate.

pedit - No, we wanted Math to ask about the ability, not ask the mod to change his with multiple colors. I take that 'illegal' as Math desperately trying to push that wagon without anybody clarifying the point with the mod.

It's scummy as hell that he was only willing to ask the mod(how is asking the mod a question via PM ever illegal???) once he started getting votes on his wagon specifically because of that.

TT, your 'engaged' is at best a ring-thing, lol. you basically just yelled 'READ THE THREAD'. you think I did read it?

to your reference: calling repeatedly that she hasnt done anythingfor 10 days *is by definition* calling for a policy lynch.

[shos]

I'm not really sure what you mean by your last question.

I ask what other scumreada you have, which do not have the same argument for them as for mollie and me.

E.g.
X is scum because post Y has acum intentions, i do not find this sincere, contradicta self in poay Z, etc. Like ACTUAL scumhunting, and not shallow shit like you throw on me.

[shos]

• can we haz a votecount?

[kiwieagle]

Yeah, I mean I don't want to vote shos. But I feel that if I had to choose between shos and TT I would vote shos.
How doesn't that sound true lol?

Because I have been pushing towards a shos wagon consensus. You have avoided voting that wagon for pages. You had the opportuntity to vote TT or shos and you voted TT despite there being no wagon on TT.

Your willingness to vote shos sounds hollow.

The fuck?
When did I vote for tt?

[Ozgin]

But to be honest I'm pretty damn close to replacing out here because I don't give a shit anymore.

This sounds like a frustrated town. As much as I wanna peg you as scum, I can't because this describe almost exactly how I feel at this point.

I feel like there's just no fighting the mislynch on myself because you and kiwi are all but convinced that I'm scum, and it's frustrating as hell.

I just dunno how to do this game anymore, and it's killing me (literally).

[MathBlade]

@Ozgin -- List all your reads from townie to least townie

@TT getting your questions in a second

[MathBlade]

You're unbelievable. I can quote shos, and then quote myself, showing that he's the one misrepping me, but you won't listen. I make very clear, numbered points, and you say I'm just insulting you and adding nothing to the thread. Then you accuse me of misrepping shos(by quoting him???), twice, but you don't bother to explain it.

If you find people aren't listening to you, maybe there's a reason. Town can't get anywhere with players who can't even acknowledge the facts of what has been posted and what hasn't.

I'm tired too, this is an awesome setup that has been plagued by non-contributing posters, non-contributing replacements, and out-of-thread communication. Give a damn if you want, it's your choice. I give a damn which is why I'm trying so hard to get you(supposing you're even town) to acknowledge lazy, scummy play. But you won't.

BTW, engaging a player doesn't mean you're looking to lynch them, I was pointing out that I wasn't exclusively focusing mollie like you said. Hell, that doesn't even make sense.

1) IMO it isn't that you're scummy for poking Molloe it is that you were doing it to the exclusion of all others.

1) That is my point. You look to be lynch shopping rather than scumhunting.

So which was it, was I exclusively poking mollie, ignoring everything else, or was I lynch shopping?

1) I did explain the misrep. I was brief about it and did not wall.
2) Go look at shos's posts if you need them.
3) You can still push exclusively while lynch shopping. It is called attempting to dominate the thread with talk of said person while also asking certain types of questions when doing so at the expense of any conversation you don't want being shut down.

[shos]

VOTE: TT probably not L-1 so no need to wait for VC