Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[TroubledTownie]

V/LA for the next few days.

Nasty stomach bug going around the house.

[ika]

vc after sleep

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Ugh... my pad hates me. Made a long post and than it said I did log in after I did. I lost everything
I need sleep but basically I think both Math and PM ( the PM slotb) are likely town. I will explain later. Have a busy day today but I will try to slip in time to explain my reasons for theses conclussions.

[shos]

TT, get out of the tunnel.
titus should be the lynch today guys.

[MathBlade]

@TT -- Except she did read some of it by selectively reading Ozgin's ISO and not APs.

Yes the prior post of yours was the one I referenced.

Isn't your entire post about shos is that he is just going after you? Misrep not proven unless you flip town. And again your other two points are naked.

My point is valid. You did not provide a reason it was not valid. You just said she would have to read early game. She already did read ISO of Ozgin and even if she hadn't point still valid.

[TroubledTownie]

@TT -- Except she did read some of it by selectively reading Ozgin's ISO and not APs.

Yes the prior post of yours was the one I referenced.

Isn't your entire post about shos is that he is just going after you? Misrep not proven unless you flip town. And again your other two points are naked.

My point is valid. You did not provide a reason it was not valid. You just said she would have to read early game. She already did read ISO of Ozgin and even if she hadn't point still valid.

No, my case against shos isn't that he's just going after me, it's the way he did it. The misreps aren't dependent on my alignment, they are objectively false. If I claim you said X, and you quote where you said not-X, that's a misrep. Everything he's said against me has been false. Calling my points naked is just ignorance, I've been over everything, with quotes from both of us, multiple times.

And no, I didn't just say she would have to read the early game. I said she would have to USE the early game WITHOUT reading it as a scumread on somebody, and she HASN'T done that.

[Titus]

@TT -- Except she did read some of it by selectively reading Ozgin's ISO and not APs.

Yes the prior post of yours was the one I referenced.

Isn't your entire post about shos is that he is just going after you? Misrep not proven unless you flip town. And again your other two points are naked.

My point is valid. You did not provide a reason it was not valid. You just said she would have to read early game. She already did read ISO of Ozgin and even if she hadn't point still valid.

No. I didn't read all of Ozgin's ISO. I do not read early game when I sub in. I like my vca as pure as can be.

[MathBlade]

Then how can you say Ozgin's ISO is town if you didn't read it?

[MathBlade]

@TT -- reread my post please. I don't think you understand. Your response doesn't make sense to me

[TroubledTownie]

Math, I understand what you're saying, you're not understanding what I'm saying.

mollie replaces into the game. She doesn't read the thread. She posts fluff for 10 days and keeps saying how she doesn't know what's going on and isn't involved.
titus replaces into the game. She doesn't read the thread. She starts engaging players, asking questions, and helps pushing wagons.
shos replaces into the game. He doesn't read the thread. He starts misrepping me, and pushing me as scum because of how he thinks I acted in the first 40 pages he didn't bother to read.

Let me point out the differences between those three players. Not reading the thread is anti-town in each case, but anti-town doesn't necessarily imply scummy. To me, not reading the thread is like plugging your ears during a trial when you're on the jury, then trying to figure out if someone is guilty by listening only to the second half. Makes no sense.

mollie didn't do anything except post filler and sheep. Both of those are anti-town. Again, not necessarily scummy, which is why I was pressuring her to contribute or replace, rather than pushing a policy lynch on her.

shos actually read me as scummy because he thought I was always OMGUSing, but he didn't bother to check if I actually had been. That's scummy, plain and simple. If you think a player might be scummy because of their voting pattern, but you don't know their voting pattern, then you need to check it first(if you're town at least).

titus hasn't done any of that crap, so there's no reason for me to be attacking her 'for consistency' like you claim.

[AngryPidgeon]

The misreps aren't dependent on my alignment, they are objectively false.

This doesn't make someone scum though. I cant count the number of times cases like this have landed on town.

No. I didn't read all of Ozgin's ISO. I do not read early game when I sub in. I like my vca as pure as can be.

This doesnt make any sense to me.

[TroubledTownie]

The misreps aren't dependent on my alignment, they are objectively false.

This doesn't make someone scum though. I cant count the number of times cases like this have landed on town.

When the misreps are repeatedly pushed, and correction is ignored, then it's scummy. There is absolutely no town motivation for that.

[AngryPidgeon]

you're right, its probably just dumb-motivated.

[Ozgin]

3) I see how it is I provide arguments and again you are too lazy to read them or look at my ISO so you ask me to do it again. Why would I when you have already said you don't read posts? :/ I don't waste my time on futility.

This has become the most frustrating game I've ever played ever, not just mafia, but every game ever.

Seriously, you're a dolt whose argument against me was a "scumslip" you pulled out of thin fucking air.

You're either the most abhorrent simpleton in the world as a town, or a scum who is really good at pushing buttons. Either way, you're very simply detrimental to the town. Even people who think you're a town say you're playing anti-town.

VOTE: MathBlade

Go ahead and lynch me, I couldn't care less. I'm frustrated, pissed off, and the town is going into lylo tomorrow if I'm lynched. Ugh, words cannot describe my disdain with you in this game.

[kiwieagle]

"Ozigin you're going to lose us the game!!! Play the frustration card they will fall right for it!!!"

[kiwieagle]

hmmm

what if everyone who is town are the people who are active and we are fucked?

[kiwieagle]

FTL, PM, and one of you guys.


Damn that would suck.

[kiwieagle]

Well we have one week to duke it out we can worry about agreeing later

[MathBlade]

"Ozigin you're going to lose us the game!!! Play the frustration card they will fall right for it!!!"

This I agree with.

And more not wanting to read posts from Ozgin and Titus. Even after Titus admitted to reading all of Ozgin's ISO but won't read any of APs. Yeah if you aren't telling the truth you should be lynched.

[Ozgin]

Then lynch me, I don't care. And kiwi, your sarcasm just furthers my point that either you jackasses are scum pushing buttons or really stupid towns.

[AngryPidgeon]

Can we just lynch TFL today? He's scum.

[kiwieagle]

"Uhh fuck. Ozigin it didnt work! Just call them stupid or something."

[Ozgin]

"Uhh fuck. Ozigin it didnt work! Just call them stupid or something."

Alright, I'm not playing a game where it's been reduced to mockery and ad hominem attacks.

Mod, please replace me. I'm sorry, I just can't deal with this anymore.

[Titus]

Guys, that's town frustration. I have seen it enough.

Math, you are wrong on me and O. For sake of argument, who is the third? Vote them. I am not voting anyone in my townblock today.

[MathBlade]

...I've only seen tunnels and replace out from scum. Not as town.

I provide arguments. You say there are none and want to replace out. I am trying to advocate for your lynch. That's what I've been doing the whole day.

@Titus -- Congratulations I wouldn't expect scum to vote scum. That doesn't make me want to change my vote from my top scumspect.