Mini 1649: Jabberwocky Mafia (Game Over)

[Valkyrie Mollie]

I'm not digging the Tier wagon. It feels too easy.

So far I haz townread on these people.
- WP
- Titus
- Elbirn
- Axle

Probably obvious townreads but I won't lynch any of these folks today.

Now why would you feel the need to explicitly announce that you won't lynch your townreads?

Because it shows how strong those townreads are.

[BRantz]

I'm not digging the Tier wagon. It feels too easy.

So far I haz townread on these people.
- WP
- Titus
- Elbirn
- Axle

Probably obvious townreads but I won't lynch any of these folks today.

Now why would you feel the need to explicitly announce that you won't lynch your townreads?

Because it shows how strong those townreads are.

I'm not sure I like that you are giving 4 players a complete day 1 pass on page 5.

[Witness Protection]

@ VM I'm pretty much in agreement. I think we just made a Town bloc?

Uh, yeah. UNVOTE: the lawyer

[Witness Protection]

Someone said something about lurkers. I think our lurkers might just have scum this time. Or our scums are lurking?

@ BRants Who's scummiest right now?

@ DDD Tell me you wanna help us Townies.

@ Seraphim I hope you're not ignoring everyone. Come out and play.

I'll do a complete reread and vote tomorrow.

[Elbirn]

@VM: Both TSO and I have asked what makes you think TSO is town (Well, I directly asked, TSO not quite but he did prompt you about it?). I'm interested to hear your reasoning.

You have that handy dandy list of people you townread and would not lynch today. Would you add TSO to that list?

So my reads thus far is the mollie hydra, DDD and Brantz are my current scum reads thus far.

I can explain any and all for those who care.

Please do.

Not early. Easy.

If scum fucks up early on, I'm not averse to pushing a swift and decisive lynch. I have not, however, seen that happen this game.

What qualifies as an "easy" wagon, and what makes it a wrong choice?
Earlier you said the Tiershift wagon was "easy", and so you didn't like it. Does this imply that you think Tier is town? If yes, why?

[Belisarius]

What qualifies as an "easy" wagon, and what makes it a wrong choice?

A large amount of votes on one player without commensurate justification, and what makes it wrong is the lack of commensurate justification.

[Titus]

Big words. Big wrongs.

Sorry but the Tier wagon is justified. Handwaive more. Or you know you could explain why the reasons are bad?

[T S O]

It is? Do tell.

[Titus]

Tier thinks I made a bad post. Refuses to vote me.
Tier has posts denying he has read the thread while selectively responding to content. #91
Tier has provided no content.
Tier has refused to vote me despite being the only player he reacted negatively to.

[Witness Protection]

I have several strong Town reads I won't vote Today, and may even come to their defense if needed. But if they're still alive in later Days (assuming I'm still here) I might start having trouble seeing them as Town.

VOTE: Tiershift

Anticipating his response. *Reason* Titus's case.

[Witness Protection]

Bel is playing Devil's advocate to some of my Town reads. He has some good points that haven't been addressed by others that I'd like to hear addressed too.

[Witness Protection]

I'm not digging the Tier wagon. It feels too easy.

So far I haz townread on these people.
- WP
- Titus
- Elbirn
- Axle

Probably obvious townreads but I won't lynch any of these folks today.

Now why would you feel the need to explicitly announce that you won't lynch your townreads?

Because it shows how strong those townreads are.

I'm not sure I like that you are giving 4 players a complete day 1 pass on page 5.

For the record, I like VM's read list. It was the same as mine. There are a lot of unfinished conversations going on right now. I don't want to step on them.

@ Yakko You've done the reread, right? Thoughts?

@ Farside What's up? Who do you think is being dishonest?

[Titus]

Bel is playing Devil's advocate to some of my Town reads. He has some good points that haven't been addressed by others that I'd like to hear addressed too.

Such as?

Is there anyone you do not like?

[farside22]

I'm phone posting so each scum read will be in each post.

Starting with brantz he has 6 post that say next to nothing.
Some are awkward which could be confusion but he has next to no trying to figure anything out this far.

He has voted tier and then when pushed about reads you get 2 reads here.

I am "confused" about WP's babbling for two pages. More joking around than anything else (the whole thing was a response to tier's "idk tldr".

I am "confused" about WP's babbling for two pages. More joking around than anything else (the whole thing was a response to tier's "idk tldr".

This is scum.

Well excuse me for joking around in RVS while people were drunk spamming.

Tier's 91[/post ] feels very strange. I like Titus' [post]98 in response to it, but Tier realizing that he misunderstood later feels somewhat genuine.

Elbirn's 102 analysis feels town to me. But seriously, I was the second vote on Tier, during RVS, what did you really want out of me there? Also see what I said to farside about wp's babbling.

One is vague reasoning and using one post while just sitting on the tier wagon and then town read on elb, which I found unnecessary to say.

I'm not digging the Tier wagon. It feels too easy.

So far I haz townread on these people.
- WP
- Titus
- Elbirn
- Axle

Probably obvious townreads but I won't lynch any of these folks today.

Now why would you feel the need to explicitly announce that you won't lynch your townreads?

Because it shows how strong those townreads are.

I'm not sure I like that you are giving 4 players a complete day 1 pass on page 5.

Finally the most recent post against Mollie is historically bad.
There is nothing scummy about having town reads and not wanting to lynch players, added none of the players Mollie states did brantz state a scum read in.

In short brantz reads award post after awkward post and offers nothing to try to figure anyone out thus far with crap attack.

[farside22]

Triple D has 4 post that talk more about his play in past games and just votes one player that hasn't posted.

[Belisarius]

Tier thinks I made a bad post. Refuses to vote me.
Tier has posts denying he has read the thread while selectively responding to content. #91
Tier has provided no content.
Tier has refused to vote me despite being the only player he reacted negatively to.

*If I voted for every post I thought was bad, I'd lynch so much town I'd be an honorary member of every scumteam arrayed against me; One can dislike a post without believing it comes from scum.
*Hasn't read the entire thread does not mean the same thing as hasn't read any of it
*It's early D1
*This is a paraphrase of the first point.

[Witness Protection]

Bel is playing Devil's advocate to some of my Town reads. He has some good points that haven't been addressed by others that I'd like to hear addressed too.

Such as?

Is there anyone you do not like?

Without reISOing him, I know he was asking DDD something, and I think there 's something else not related to you too.

They need to respond. Then we can discuss them.

[farside22]

With the Mollie hydra this is a bit gut and just some red flags from the Mollie head. I'm used to a more emotional Mollie and the earlier buddying this quickly is not something I see from here.

[Valkyrie Mollie]

For the record, I like VM's read list. It was the same as mine. There are a lot of unfinished conversations going on right now. I don't want to step on them.

@ Yakko You've done the reread, right? Thoughts?

@ Farside What's up? Who do you think is being dishonest?

I think far is scum.

VOTE: farside a trillion times over

reason being I think her read on titus is bs.

and I support guy's townreads.

eta: lynch far

[farside22]

Why is it bs Mollie?
Did you look into the games I referenced?

[farside22]

@mollue head:

I mean we were in this game with titus here
Can you explain looking there why it's bs?

[BRantz]

@far: It isn't vm town reading people that's the problem. It's vm calling them unlynchable on page 5 that bugs me. Also, it's unnecessary for me to talk about town reads? Right... got it.

VOTE: farside

[BRantz]

Ebwop: @wp: will respond to your question in more detail when I am off work.

[Valkyrie Mollie]

I swear every time I log into this account the skin changes.

@far: It isn't vm town reading people that's the problem. It's vm calling them unlynchable on page 5 that bugs me. Also, it's unnecessary for me to talk about town reads? Right... got it.

VOTE: farside

VOTE: BRantz

[Valkyrie Mollie]

Sorry mollie but there's no way I can pass that post without voting the hell out of it <3