↑Marquis wrote:
pedit nm is like nulltown to me. above null because he's doing things i recently saw him do in a towngame but i'm not too confident i have a good grip on his natural/non-alignment-based personality despite how long i've played with/modded for him.
This is scummy fencesitting, will research marquis further later.
This is very genuine and not a reaction to a buddy just claiming he had psychic.
Townreads:
Bert- for general play
BBT slot- play after stopping the tunnel and interactions with notmaf
Kbw slot- I don't think notmaf was WK'ing his buddy.
Wisdom slot- I like wisdom's thought process this game. . He chose his own path and sticked to it. I don't thnk he was bussing notmaf
Scum candidates:
Flames
Marquis
Still need to sort flames and marq and seo. That's everyone I think.
Okay, let's update that to the current playerlist.
I'm townreading:
Pie
Boon
Bert
fish
Scumreading but yet to sort
Vettrock
Flames
Hoping to sort by rereading the latest few pages:
Seo
I've played twice with vettrock before. He was town twice. Granted, I was scum twice, so that might slightly distort my views, but I notice smethng different about him here. What struck me in his towngames, was that they had exactly the same feel. From the start in the second game with him, I knew he was town (It was multiball, 3v3v3). He draws his own plan and seems smewhat out of touch with the rest of the game. He knows what is right for town, but is good to have around for scum as he's not very good at convincing people and it is easy to take advantage of him. I'm completely missing that behaviour in this game. He is engaged and is telling everyone about his feelings in a clear manner.
I'm not too sure about this read, as I do feel his vote is in the right place and his theory of 'two scum off the wagon' doesn't look like buddy protection; it's exactly where I'm at right now.
Okay, I don't think seo is lying about confusing hypnosis with psychic. That doesn't make him town, however. He has a scum-benefiting ability that he used for some reason, which is weird.
Why did you use your ability at all N1, why did you target BBT and why didn't you use the ability you thought you had (psychic) night 2?
↑Flames682 wrote:And along with FF I think Seo is lying. Or is saying the truth except he didn't really target BBT
VOTE: Seo
This is exemplaric of flames's game. All of it has been easy votes, such as MS, BBT and this one. He's agreed with NM on almost every junction, but never interacts with him nor comments on the wagon forming on him nor ever state his own read on NM.
I checked again and even in the day 2 twilight he never states his disgust with the wagon, but later on he says:
↑Flames682 wrote:@vetttrock I'm scum because at that point I did not believe NM to be scum?
As someone who is very vocal about his reads, I do not understand why he didn't comment on the flip to be.
↑TierShift wrote:Okay, let's update that to the current playerlist.
I'm townreading:
Pie
Boon
Bert
fish
Scumreading but yet to sort
Vettrock
Flames
Hoping to sort by rereading the latest few pages:
Seo
I've played twice with vettrock before. He was town twice. Granted, I was scum twice, so that might slightly distort my views, but I notice smethng different about him here. What struck me in his towngames, was that they had exactly the same feel. From the start in the second game with him, I knew he was town (It was multiball, 3v3v3). He draws his own plan and seems smewhat out of touch with the rest of the game. He knows what is right for town, but is good to have around for scum as he's not very good at convincing people and it is easy to take advantage of him. I'm completely missing that behaviour in this game. He is engaged and is telling everyone about his feelings in a clear manner.
I'm not too sure about this read, as I do feel his vote is in the right place and his theory of 'two scum off the wagon' doesn't look like buddy protection; it's exactly where I'm at right now.
With regard to my game, I think some of the more engaging that I am doing now has to do with the length of time I have been on the site. I started out as town, and was scum read in all of my games (I wanna say the first 3 or 4 in a row) due to my uncertainty and somewhat disengaged behavior that you state. I have tried to be more engaged to combat this by being more interactive.
I don't get why my vote is a thing someone should hate. Can we explain? Haha. I had to insert my way into the fold somehow, which I did. I'm gonna stick to it. The fact that people don't like it make me even more certain. Someone's probably his buddy trying to discredit or mislynch me. Cool. Game almost solved and haven't even been here too long. Yeeee doggie.
Boon, I swear to god, if you pull this shit again where you come up with literally whatever reason you can to justify whatever push you're making as opposed to saying things that are reasonable, I'm lynching you into the ground. you should really be able to come up with something that makes more sense than "a bunch of people are trying to discredit me, one of them must be his buddy".
(and I didn't comment on this the last game bc both of us were scum, but I could not care less if it's your general playstyle; the moment you're writing someone off bc they do scummy things as town you've already lost the game.)
↑pieguyn wrote:Boon, I swear to god, if you pull this shit again where you come up with literally whatever reason you can to justify whatever push you're making as opposed to saying things that are reasonable, I'm lynching you into the ground. you should really be able to come up with something that makes more sense than "a bunch of people are trying to discredit me, one of them must be his buddy".
(and I didn't comment on this the last game bc both of us were scum, but I could not care less if it's your general playstyle;
the moment you're writing someone off bc they do scummy things as town you've already lost the game.
)
Haha, yeah, I'm surprised people believed me. My playstyle's dead similar no matter what my role is. There isn't anything I wouldn't do as scum that I wouldn't do as town, so meta literally is a moot argument coming to me. Also, because of this, it can't be used against me in any way.
I'm unsure what you mean by doing scummy things as town? I don't vote people for doing scummy things as town, unless I'm scum knowing they are town. Except I usually don't know that the person is town, and I'm legitimately thinking they are scum because of these things. So let me ask you a question, Ms. Pie...how do you know that I'm pushing a townie for acting scummy?
↑TierShift wrote:I hate boon's vettrock vote. Can pie get in here and talk to me about my reads?
Also, can we state why we don't like this vote? You posted in your reads list that you are town reading my slot, and scum reading Vettrock's, so I fail to see why you hate this vote. This seems a bit contradictory to me, and I'm not sure how your thought process is really working.
Any of my posts past this one in Ninja Mafia will show that what you just said is an illogical reason to lynch someone strictly because the playstyle annoys you. That is basically you saying you are open for a policy lynch with 8 players left.
To better form my town read on you, what was the thing that really pushed you over the edge to vote for me? I mean, I don't really care, but I'm bored and creating conversation. I'm probably going to get lynched toDay anyways. Don't care enough about this game enough to really fight my way out of a lynch. I'll just get heated, and *yawn*, that's such a drag, man.
I hate to OMGUS vote, but I'm inclined to vote for Boon as well. I didn't really see the interaction between Wisdom and NM as scum partners, but Boon's recent push on me seems pretty scummy, but I'm not sure how much I'm letting the OMGUS aspect of it bother me. VOTE: Boon
Any of my posts past this one in Ninja Mafia will show that what you just said is an illogical reason to lynch someone strictly because the playstyle annoys you. That is basically you saying you are open for a policy lynch with 8 players left.
Also, you were town in that game, and the person you were arguing with was town. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to draw from the reference.
↑vettrock wrote:Only scum have a reason to self vote. Feeling better about my vote already.
I can show you around 3 times (possibly 2, possibly 4, I don't remember) where I've done it as town. I can show you 0 times where I've done it as scum.
