Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[Rubicon]

FYI: If you want to lynch me today, you should probably get your shit together and do something about it soon.

[Equinox]

Patch 1.3.8 Vote Count

TheFuzzylogic99 (3):

AngryPidgeon, mastin2, Titus

Titus (3):

TheFuzzylogic99, shos, Rubicon

Rubicon (1):

kiwieagle

shos (1):

TroubledTownie

Not Voting (1):

MathBlade

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Tier 2 (5):

Titus, TroubledTownie, kiwieagle, Rubicon, AngryPidgeon

Tier 1 (1):

TheFuzzylogic99

Tier 3 (1):

MathBlade

Deadline: Day 3 ends in (expired on 2015-03-09 21:00:00).

[kiwieagle]

PM has 0 content
shes a 50/50

but still an easy lynch that shos defended and got lots of bad publicity for

[kiwieagle]

That's underwhelming. AP and mastin (and mollie) are clever scum players. Giving them strong town reads (which is what AP asked for, and you listed them separately from your null reads) based on not saying anything scummy is pretty boring.

What looked decent about mastin's post? Was there some content in there that I missed?

Why do you think shos wouldn't have defended mollie as scum? I haven't actually read that part yet, but a lot of scum like to defend & buddy townies.

I don't know what you want me to say.
I follow American law.
Innocent until proven guilty.

[TroubledTownie]

Math and me are his scum reads... we defend shos.
TT is his town read... he attacks shos.

His reads on people are based on this single event.

Really?

Titus was scumreading Math

before shos was even in the game

, and titus was calling you town all through the shos wagon.

[Rubicon]

I don't know what you want me to say.
I follow American law.
Innocent until proven guilty.

No paranoia and inquisitiveness and indications of not reading the thread / making stuff up. Boring and trending toward scum.

[Rubicon]

I saw someone write that town-Oz implied scum-Math and town-Math implied scum-Oz, but now I can't seem to find who said the post. That is a false dichotomy and whoever said it is probably scum.

If Ozigin is scum, math is town. If ozigin is town, math is scum.

Found it. Math and I are both town. Try again.

[AngryPidgeon]

Rubicon is really reaching with that Kiwi suspicion, and Kiwi has been town as fuck.

[Rubicon]

Thank you for your input.

[AngryPidgeon]

No problem.

I'm really curious what parts of the game you've read. I was having 2nd thoughts on Ozgin after the replace out drama. I think titus and TFL are scummier than your slot by a notable amount, so not sure what you want em to say.

[MathBlade]

Rubicon kiwi is probs town but I think I understand why you suspect Kiwi.

Kiwi and TT need to either consolidate or post reads on the top two wagons.

[Rubicon]

No problem.

I'm really curious what parts of the game you've read. I was having 2nd thoughts on Ozgin after the replace out drama. I think titus and TFL are scummier than your slot by a notable amount, so not sure what you want em to say.

I'm surprised you're not engaging much with kiwi yourself given how much you wanted to a couple hours ago. That looked like it was going to be interesting, but then you just asked a one-off question and he gave a boring reply and it fizzled out.

I've read bits and pieces. I like to form reads by talking to people.

[kiwieagle]

Damn. I have not been posting well.
I just started another game and trying to set up my game and that has caused me to try to back up my claims and make claims in a lazy way.


Sorry.



@TT

I worded that wrongly.
Pressure pressure pressure

Yeah, I mean I don't want to vote shos. But I feel that if I had to choose between shos and TT I would vote shos.
How doesn't that sound true lol?

Because I have been pushing towards a shos wagon consensus. You have avoided voting that wagon for pages. You had the opportuntity to vote TT or shos and you voted TT despite there being no wagon on TT.

Your willingness to vote shos sounds hollow.

Ok, we have 4 on T2. Tier 2 should claim.

@Ozgin, I'm trying to make sure my townreads stop voting each other. That's pretty fucking transparent.

@Kiwi, I'm waiting for your shos vote. While I am aware of the possibility TFL is scum, there's a decent chance of him being replaced. Come do something.

@AngryPidgeon, please fucking vote. No more words without taking a stand.

please get off my wagon^ *

Kiwi, Ozgin's vote changed right after I highlighted Math's meta. Math despite being town will not vote scum.

I need you to vote shos today. We have to have all town agree but for Math because she refuses to vote scum.

I'm really curious what my town tell is.

What's up Titus? Is TFL just a compromise vote or do you think he'll flip scum?

I'm not confident TFL will flip town. I'd rather lynch shos but getting my townreads to all vote there was fucking impossible so I'm backing off.

If TFL does flip scum, the team is likely Kiwi/shos.

@Rubicon
How about you asking everyone else to give detailed reads?

I am not good at saying why people are town.
I just attack most of the time.

But sure lets see what I can do......


Actually no fuck that I dont think they are scum lol get over it.

[AngryPidgeon]

-shrug-

I think Kiwi is town. The only townread of his that I'm not sure about is mastin.

Mastin needs more content to be readable. I take pride in my ability to read her and I'm not there yet.

Speaking of mastin, what exactly is your read on mastin? You kind of cast doubt on mastin by calling her a good scum player rather than giving a hard opinion her.

[Rubicon]

Do you have shos as town too?

I don't have a read on mastin yet. Reading eyestott's posts hasn't helped.

[AngryPidgeon]

Do you have shos as town too?

I don't have a read on mastin yet. Reading eyestott's posts hasn't helped.

Eyestott?

I thought Shos was town but I am a little wary about it. I don't have too much experience with Shos and I kind of see TT's reasoning for thinking he is scummy.

[AngryPidgeon]

Oh the mastin slot has been replaced twice now.

[Rubicon]

Yup. How are you at reading Mollie?

[AngryPidgeon]

I don't know. I misread her pretty bad in street racers 2. Sometimes she is just obviously town. I thought the way she responded to the whole private message situation was more likely to come from town, but not conclusively.

[mastin2]

mastin's post manages to look like an in-depth analysis of something. I'm just not sure what exactly is being analyzed.

Two things, really. Mainly, the VC and the psyche behind the players.

I know Titus, and I know shos, and I know that if they're at each others' throats, they're probably both town.
From that, I made a few assumptions, working also from what I gathered about the game.

I'm basically at the point where I'm going purely off of play, not having read a word before the VC I'm beginning from, and honestly, that's probably how it'll remain; I'll read stuff posted from there-on out, but before that, you want me to read it, you quote it for me to see. (Be warned that lengthy quotes = auto-skim.)

It's generally an efficient but effective replacement method under even normal circumstances. With an impending deadline, it is a necessity.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

The newest scum game I could find is newbie 1533......

Not sure how to defend my play other than to say my play has been overall pretty bad and my reads are horrible. I am not going to sit here and defend mt bad play and bad reads. As I said I dont have the faintest idea even if I did choose to defend my play.

[AngryPidgeon]

I know Titus, and I know shos, and I know that if they're at each others' throats, they're probably both town.

Uhhhh? And they are totally incapable of faking that as scum? Either of them? You think they are both just misreading each other cause thats the only thing that makes sense?

[mastin2]

For the record, on page 93, Titus and shos confirm to me they're both town.
Mathblade and Rubicon's posting is kinda to even levels so one of them

might

be scum. (Both, if I'm wrong on at least one of Fuzzy/TT.)
Fuzzy's posting was just meh. But TT's definitely looked like scum.

So in those four, you'll find the scumteam for sure.

[AngryPidgeon]

Can anyone, in real short, explain to me the whole tiers and stuff? I am nit aure i understand. We all pick a tier, and the tier yhat wins is distributed randomly to all playera?

This confirmed to you that Shos is town?

[mastin2]

Reasons please.

At that point in the game? The VC told me that alone. Titus and shos crossvoting, each with support from a singular person, and it being D3, with the other wagons not having traction. I know it sounded like a joke, but I actually

do

know the mentalities of Titus and shos, and they are

infinitely

more likely to both be town when crossvoting than for one of them to be scum. (Yet alone, both!)

Their posting basically confirmed it. Titus townposted, shos townposted. I have a reasonably decent track record reading both, and from their posts alone I am fairly confident that they're town.

...Plus, I hate the wagon on Titus, SAVE shos. As in, the Titus votes look pretty sketch, except shos's doesn't, meaning Titus looks town, shos looks not-scum, thus, both town.