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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:28 pm

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I still don't understand why you guys held off on posting reads to "discuss them." I'd much rather just see each head's reads than be filtered.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:31 pm

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Drixx wrote:
Om of the Nom wrote:like i honestly really dont know what ur tryin to achieve by saying something so common knowledge without followup


It didn't seem /quite/ mod confirmed to me that the scum in the two origin games would be kept separate. My role makes me 99.9% certain that there are multiple teams though. Since it was possible to interpret the scant setup info we were given in either way, and since the scum would already know, I felt that stating my role pretty much confirms multiple scum teams had value to the town. As you play more with me you will find that I do my very best to avoid assuming things that aren't empirically confirmed. I've been burned way too many times in the past by making assumptions that seemed safe but weren't. I learned my lesson.

@BCW: You know I was thinking that Drixx might be derpy town, but then he tried to subtley copy Boonskiies' townslip here so now I'm back to being gung ho on lynching him.

Speaking of Boonskiies townslip, Boonskiies wins games by being underestimated. So I'm not clearing him that easy.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:32 pm

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deathfisaro wrote:@Om
Your vote frequency on Drixx is almost 1 vote per 1 meatworld day.
Just imagining you waking up and going "oh I shouldn't forget to vote Drixx today, again" makes me laugh so much.

haha
you sholud put a vote down too tyvm
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:34 pm

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Ozgin wrote:Sorry for my delayed play, this is my third time explaining it in a thread but my dog died, I started work today, and I'm still a full-time student, so my posting abilities are scarce. I'm only as far as page 15 in this game in my reading (I'm gonna catch up, I promise), but I need a little bit of time to get my head into this game. The weekend is coming up so I'll be good to go soon.

I appreciate the attempt to stay in the game, but know that real life always takes precedent, don't be scared of replacing out if you need to focus on more important things. That's my opinion anyway.

Anyone have useful Om meta? Does he normally do post by post scum cases as town? Cause I think I've only ever done it as scum.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:34 pm

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^Om you can answer that one.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:35 pm

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Drixx who do you think is scum besides Om nom nom?
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:35 pm

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hey molla i've think ive done one in like every solo game minus the other two larges ive been in but ive done it as town adn scum since coming back off hiatus so its basically moot should b able to provide links if wanted
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:36 pm

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idk i kinda actually like doing that kind of stuff now bc it makes me feel super confident and slam dunkin and thats a nice feeling
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:37 pm

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Great, that's all I needed to know. Thanks.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:29 pm

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Yay Om, you're town.
I'm going to read your case, holy crumpets it's long.
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:37 pm

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I like how it's not okay for me to question your motives, but it's perfectly okay for you to sling profanity at me and call me useless and so on.

Just lynch me already, and when I flip town you can try and talk your way out of how you decided to target me and went and manipulated anything I said to try and make it look like I had slipped in the least bit.

I was particularly amused by the quoting of me posting that the info given by game mods didn't necessarily confirm separate scum teams, but conveniently not quoting the earlier post where I said my role basically confirmed multiple scum teams. Here's a good rule of thumb: if you have to take people out of context and ignore temporal order or even ignore whole posts and otherwise your "case" doesn't add up, you probably don't have a case. This goes doubly true when you ISO someone and don't bother to look at what other people said that sparked various comments or responses.

#582 is going to be hilarious if you manage to wagon me all the way to lynch. You feel so good about yourself for using fallacious reasoning and just plain being bad. I always approve of people with big egos and low intelligence (generally identified by the need to use profanity and insults to make points because they lack proper rational thinking ability) having said egos deflated.

I'm gonna go to sleep and I've got work to do tomorrow. If town is stupid enough to let scum rush a lynch that's cool. Should be some useful stuff that comes out of it. My role has immunity from being killed by a specific scum faction, ergo my role essentially confirms multiple scum factions. My death and flip will confirm that fully and then hopefully town is clever enough to eradicate the scum teams.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:38 pm

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@Mod: the personal insults in this thread are getting a bit out of hand for my taste, can you please have a word with the worst offenders?





You call THOSE personal insults?

Boy, I ought to slap the taste, I don't fu


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you ain't seen shit.

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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:39 pm

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You're a faction specific bulletproof?
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:51 pm

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you only questioned my motives after calling me scum
whats the point in that

there is no out of context needed or present, anything i didnt quote was worthless or just repeated stuff, i actually left at least 6 posts out because i didnt feel they even were worthy enough for me to criticize because they were near-identical to the motive and thought behind every other post of yours i pointed out

why the heck have you done nothing to push anything of yours up until now
its almost 600 posts into the game and you have only just launched an attack on someone that you've actually followed up on
you have not actually addressed my case in any specific manner except through one issue, and you are taking that issue and projecting the problems with that onto the entire case
where are my reasons fallacious
what was the context i missed out on?
dont make these blanket statements unless you are prepared to back it up

you are crying about manipulation and playing the victim card when you have done literally nothing the entire game and are being called out on it now
also you insulted me just then too lol so idc about u thinking im too profane. and frankly if you think that personal worth and intelligence is determined by the language someone uses then thats a very superficial judge of character.

why dont you actually take on the case with some solid defenses, because im not going to let you get away with buzzwords and personal insults. also the intimidation tactics are a nice touch, but they arent going to work against me
and i dont think insulting the townies you oh so want to try and convince is going to be the best bet at your survival
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:53 pm

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BBmolla wrote:You're a faction specific bulletproof?

"Hey, I want you dead, please let me know whether I should kill you during the day or at night"
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:59 pm

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copper223 wrote:
@all - the best policy is to attack someone's play or what someone says, and not the someone himself.


The Beast raised its angry red head, and kuribo spoke the words of The Devil. "I disagree, the best policy is to fuck people with your golden cock until they tearfully confess," he said, revealing again his golden cock.

Oranje Crush wrote:VOTE: Soren
Why the hell are you voting Brantz?


The Beast refused to link all of the quotes from this meandering conversation. It looked in awe at the dissonance between the oranje heads. Though it had not consulted with its other heads, the Angry Red One nodded thoughtfully. "This shit," it decided, "is probably town." The Angry One also felt that Molla's claim was to be believed. Such brazen balls for an easily disproved fakeclaim? No, Molla was almost certainly telling the truth. He would night be tasting the Righteous Cock of Vengeance today.

copper223 wrote:Getting away with giving as little as possible which helps them be flexible when they finally have to give reads and explain them, while hopefully some poor townie screws up in some way and gets himself lynched, then coming in tomorrow saying they were unfortunately busy but oh that guy was for sure town blah blah, I want their reads on record and that is good regardless of their alignment so I think it's a great spot to place your vote at the moment.


The Angry One shook his heads in disbelief, (that's brain-head and cock-heads) "Foolish one," he mused, "For the Bulbasaur heads are far too experienced to think they can scum-fluff like that. If they're scum, you'll not catch them so easily."

The beast read Boonskie's assessment of the possibility of multiball. "Ah," said the Angry One, "For I had made the same mistake. Though I didn't sign up for this game, nor did I read the signup thread in depth." The beast placed its cocks back into its pants, for the Angry One was leaning town on Boonskie.

The Beast saw Chivri step forward and admit his neighborness. Despite the fact that a cop had claimed to be able to investigate neighborhoods, Chivri had claimed. The Angry One considered this to be town motivated.

The Beast agreed with Molla, but decided to point out the following:
BBmolla wrote:I still don't understand why you guys held off on posting reads to "discuss them." I'd much rather just see each head's reads than be filtered.

BBmolla wrote:
Drixx wrote:Town wants as much info and as many connections and reactions as possible to go on.

False. Information overload exists and can lose you the game.


"Unfiltered reads," said the Angry One, "can lead to a Serene-type situation where the heads are bouncing all over the place and causing information overload." The Beast licked himself as he considered the irony of this statement while posting his own unfiltered reads.
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:59 pm

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God of Power Outlets wrote:He would night be tasting the Righteous Cock of Vengeance today.


*not be tasting
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:00 pm

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BBmolla wrote:You're a faction specific bulletproof?

"Hey, I want you dead, please let me know whether I should kill you during the day or at night"

"Hey look at my passive aggressive contributions that are fucking useless, stop trying to clarify things BBmolla!"
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:01 pm

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BBmolla wrote:You're a faction specific bulletproof?


That's what my role says.

@Om - You quoted a bunch of me responding to people and came to the conclusion that I'm just self centered. Maybe I was just responding to people as the game progressed? You've been pushing people to vote me, and never gave any reasoning, and then you're surprised when I question your motives? First you complain that I'm not questioning people enough, and then you act like me questioning you is a bad thing. If you're truly town, it would be good if you stopped tunneling and took a few deep breaths.

I'm not being passive because I don't care or because I don't want to keep playing. You just never gave any reasons to vote me so what was I supposed to be non-passive about? Now that you have put together a wall of quotes, most of it is me responding to people asking me questions. You also dismissed when I pointed out things without giving my own stance on them. Did it occur to you that I might have had a purpose behind putting something there without injecting my own conclusions?

Basically what your big post looks like is you decided I was scum then went back and lined up all my quotes and found some reason why each was scummy, unless you couldn't bend them that far in which case you gave the triple period treatment. You prefaced the entire thing by calling me "fucking worthless". If you start by making your mind up and then seek "evidence" to back it up, that's called confirmation bias and you're going to fail spectacularly a lot.

Anyway, it's like 1am and I'm gonna sleep. Already some useful things coming from our exchange tonight, if folks have eyes to see.


Preview edit: Why the constant need to put me down Om? You started by calling me "fucking worthless" and you think anything I respond with came anywhere near close? Come now.

Also, I am not sure your version of how our interaction went is accurate. I did question your motives for sure, but that seems fair given that you hadn't actually given any reason for trying to wagon me before that. And why are you criticizing me for not having a bunch of super strong cases to push in the early part of day 1? Am I supposed to be like the super greatest player ever or something? Who else do you see that has a bunch of strong cases all ready to push right now? Why are you only finding me at fault for that?

If you're going to make a case that appears to be flawed by a consistent fallacy, start said case by calling the target of the case "fucking worthless", and then follow up by patting yourself on the back for how good you are at the game ... you should be prepared to have some pushback, and you should be prepared to eat some crow when you turn out to be wrong. You don't get to call me "fucking worthless" and then complain because I point out that it will be amusing to quote you being so sure of yourself and arrogant about how good you are when I flip exactly what I claimed.
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:01 pm

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Drixx

If you are town

Post some reads
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:03 pm

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BBmolla wrote:Drixx

If you are town

Post some reads
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Even though I’ve been badly bruised, living in a house to become a popular muse.”

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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:05 pm

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"Faction specific bulletproof," said the Beast. "As in a bulletproof scum that can't be cross-killed?"
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:05 pm

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deathfisaro wrote:"Hey, I want you dead, please let me know whether I should kill you during the day or at night"



wait, does this mean that one of the scum teams has daykill and the other has nightkill?
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:08 pm

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also if ur town it might help to actually respond to my case rather than a skewed interpretation of my case

capitalizing on the fact i insulted you is just being petty, big deal, you arent the only one who i've insulted before, and its not like this is a direct attack against you as a person either
your posts have had no purpose to them up until now other than filler, and even now they barely scrape the mold of being useful
i think through that i can safely reserve the right to call your posts fucking worthless
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:09 pm

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There hasn't been a tremendous amount of non fluff content so far to read. I do need to get some sleep and get some work done tomorrow, because you know ... real life.

My recommendations for good reads until I come back and give you the reads you're talking about: "Worm" is a super good read, although it's quite long, clocking in at around 1.75 million words. HPMOR is also quite good and finishing up in a bit over a week.


Preview Edit: Nice try Mr. obsessed with phallic objects, but I'm town.
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