Mini 1637- Pokemon Generation I uPick (Game Over)

[Seohyun]

What does me not having the ability have to do with former's ability

Evaluate what you want to be the result of this day phase

scum to be lynched
Read back again on vettrock's iso and I don't see anything really scumlike but I also don't see any big town markers.
I could probably be convinced to switch to vettrock if flames can't be lynched today.

re: forgetting formerfish
tbh I probably was looking at the votes to see who I was forgetting and didn't see his name voting for anyone and just skipped him

[Flames682]

Bert, thoughts on Former

[Ursaring]

Oak's Notes

Rattata

The Mouse Pokémon

Normal

Pokédex Information

Bites anything when it attacks. Small and very quick, it is a common sight in many places.

Vote Count 3.10

Flames682(3):

Seohyn, pieguyn, vettrock

Bert(0):

vettrock(2):

Flames682, Bert

Seohyun(0):

Boonskiies(0):

pieguyn(1):

Boonskiies

Formerfish(1):

TierShift

TierShift(0):

Not Voting(0):

With eight alive, it takes five votes to lynch.

Deadline:

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2015-03-12 13:20:00).

Notes:

pieguyn is V/LA.

[Bert]

Or FF-Tier distancing? Because that tier case looks like it was designed to be so bad that it dissuades people from joining the wagon. His reason is "predecessor is scummy". KBW flaked. Tier didn't vote KBW and tried to get people on the KBW wafon to join the metal sonic wagon

KBW flaked

[Bert]

Tier's case on ff I mean.

[Bert]

Micc, you might want to take a look at MS's predecessor LMS just hopping onto the kbw wagon.
You also might want to notice the disconnect between MS's reads and actions; he says kbw is scummiest but votes me for no stated reason.

KBW wagon still is the same ole didn't contribute. Pretending is way worse; come over to MS.

I'm thinking micc might be scum; his read on me is very shallow and he doesn't engage to try and improve it.

[Bert]

Bert, thoughts on Former

Scary regardless of alignment

And I don't really get the tit for tat going on between u 2.


Seo, thoughts on former?

[Bert]

Seo
Seo, vettrock replaced someone you hydrad with in past games
Don't give me that, love
His name was Marquis

[Bert]

So

Boon Seo bert flames pie = potential willing to vote vett

That's the only wafon that looks theoretically possible

[Boonskiies]

I don't lol hammer past early game if I am town reading someone. Day 1 or 2 I probably will.

[Seohyun]

There were times I felt like former might be scum based on his aggressive interaction w flames. And he said he was so sure I was scum but looked like he was willing to drop it pretty easily when it seemed like others weren't going to join. Felt weird, but could also be town minded.

re: marquis
He started being all active lurky like he was in this game in our last few games. So I couldn't get a handle on his alignment because it could have went either way. Under normal circumstances I would probably agree to lynch him more readily. Another thing to note is that he replaced out of the Persona 3 FES mafia game after a while of being active lurky like here (the game was going on at the same time as this one for a while). He was town there. That might mean something? Well he replaced out here too, but it was after the whole hiatus thing, and way after his other replace out.

[Bert]

Ok look

Tier and boom aren't going to vote flames
Therefore that wagon is not possible

[Bert]

I agree Marquis could go either way, but I was hoping you would have something more to say about him

Because pie had a "townread" at one point based on Marquis ISO i think, then semi retracted it

[Bert]

So you are a redirector. Again this doesn't make sense because you used your ability on BBT and sent it to someone else, yet he still ended up in the psychic link with NM. Explain how you think this happened. Also, who'd you redirect to?

not to step into your line of questioning, but you're wrong here: psychic doesn't have a target. it's an active ability with no targets. everyone who uses it gets the neighborhood.

We all should set a time to collectively ISO (part joking but part not). Like homework being due or something

I'd legit be up for this if you are. re: Marquis, my record at reading him isn't strictly great. I misread him the last 2 times I've played with him (quickness & O569), but I still feel pretty confident at reading him; quickness was more due to him stepping up his scum game than anything, plus I wasn't there the last 2 game days, and there was a lot of confusion in O569 over me/GIF being in a hydra as well as large disagreements over certain key reads (which was more my miss than anything, since he was the one who was right).

actually now that I'm reading it again I'm having a bit of pause because of how he kept playing up the idea that he was behind in the game, which fits more with his scum mindset, but meh. outside of that, I don't sense any scum intent in the way he was lurking.

do you have any experience with town Marquis getting really apathetic? I'm curious to see if he's done this as town before.

[Boonskiies]

I like pie.

And by that I mean, y'all should vote Pie.

[Seohyun]

yeah ok
VOTE: vettrock

I wish I had more to say about marquis as well but he's been the same way in more than just this game recently.
You can take a look at doubleslap or the P3 FES game if you want to see it

[Seohyun]

I'd be willing to look into pie tomorrow

[Boonskiies]

this isn't a slip

in fact I think Seo is prob town for this. it's a weird feeling to have 3 town reads I feel somewhat good about without even reading the game

This is super ScumPie.

[Boonskiies]

ISO'ing Marquis and combined with vettrock's posts I think vettrock-slot is prob town. I also like Bert based on recent posts.

I could get behind a Boon lynch. I haven't yet read in context (and I'm not sure if I'll ever get around to fully reading the game. probably when I decide I can't get any more reads from not reading the game lolol), but from what I could tell of what Wisdom posted, a lot of his pushes were exceedingly weak.

wisdom's pushes feel pretty genuine, he was on notmaf first basically all the time but gets distracted by shinier things such as micc and me. He's consistently wanted notmaf dead and I think that if he were doing this as scum he'd just hard bus day 1 and get all the credits instead of this soft bussing that eventually contributes to his lynch.
Then again the 'remind me to blacklist you postgame' is really, really weird.

Boon's play always is chaotic, but I feel it's rather geared to scm survival than to town figuring things out chaoticly here.

So it's weird: I've never had this large a townread on wisdom, but I still think the slot might very well be scum. In my earlier evaluation, I didn't really take day 3 play into account a great deal.

I think I want to pursue flames today, that scumread is a lot more substantial.

at this point, I want to go for Flames too. he's pretty much the only person in here I haven't town read in any way.

I get the impression Boon for whatever reason thinks it's a good idea to play in a survivalistic way as town when pressured, as opposed to doing anything a town player would actually do. however, I don't have any experience to back this up. he pulled this shit when I was scum with him and we had ppl saying it was his town meta and that his posts were "oozing town motivation", though, sooooooooooo /shrug

my strategy with reading his slot is to just ignore everything he's doing. as long as I have compelling reason based on Wisdom's posts, I don't really care.

vote: Flames

Pie 1549 was for tier

yeah, I know. but you're calling Boon scum regardless, right?

I'm mostly looking for opinions on Wisdom re: NM D1, since I think it points to Wisdom-slot being town and I didn't see if you gave your opinion on it anywhere.

I don't like how these are contradictory. Before she said she could get behind a Boon lynch before I even started posting or could do anything scummy, and later she posts that Wisdom slot is leaning town. If she could get behind a Boon lynch when the only thing there was to base off of was Wisdom, she shouldn't be letting Wisdom slot slide.

[Flames682]

Boon, tomorrow I'll look into it but today we only have 1 day till deadline -!: there's no way pie will gain a wagon that quick.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Vettrock

[TierShift]

Bert, I do not disagree my FF case is bad! I think I'm voting vettrock. Pie is maybe interesting, he's much more proactive and consistent as town. Not today, though.

[TierShift]

Oh great vettrock's latest post is super bad and doubtcasting. He says flames might be scum if he's not a tracker but shows zero inclination to actually find out if he's a tracker or not.

VOTE: vettrock
Gogogogo

[vettrock]

Seriously people? Flames, Boon, or Tier are all better choices than me. I'm thinking town for Pie and Seo. FormerFish is somewhere in the middle.

[TierShift]

This is L-1, you may claim now.