We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[copper223]

@Mollie
Toon definitely is lynchbait, lynchbait can be scum as well but it's a crapshot for me, so I am not a fan, rather than no lynching I would join for sure though. If I had to chose between Vonflare and Toon I would rather join Vonflare's wagon.

Also, You feel ok about Magua? I've been playing with Soren a bit more and I think he might have been scum here.

[LucianRoy]

Molla claimed Miller with a night-skip ability if they have the second highest amount of votes.
Ice claimed: Neighbour day-cop, a day-cop that can only investigate neighbours.
Drixx claimed to be a faction specific bullet-proof.
I claimed Vengilante, a one-shot mix of a vengeful and a vigilante.

I think that was everyone...

[LucianRoy]

Apparently TPTG claimed to be a mason, or something like that...

[copper223]

@Lucian
Soren likes to play town much more and often ends up lurking a lot as scum according to him, fyi.

[Magua]

I could kill vonflare and have everyone on his wagon scramble to find a new person to vote for.

Maybe that would be a better option?

I do not think that vonflare-scum would seriously think that I was scumclaiming. I would not shoot him.

Molla claimed Miller with a night-skip ability if they have the second highest amount of votes.

Repeatable or one-shot? We should make this happen.

Ice claimed: Neighbour day-cop, a day-cop that can only investigate neighbours.

Cerberus' neighbor spec now makes more sense. This should also be done, especially if once-per-Day.

I claimed Vengilante, a one-shot mix of a vengeful and a vigilante.

Day vig, I presume. If Toon is lynchbait, I see no reason not to shoot Toon. Get claim first though.

[LucianRoy]

@Lucian
Soren likes to play town much more and often ends up lurking a lot as scum according to him, fyi.

Yeah, that sounds correct.

[Pirate Ika]

@Mollie
Toon definitely is lynchbait, lynchbait can be scum as well but it's a crapshot for me, so I am not a fan, rather than no lynching I would join for sure though. If I had to chose between Vonflare and Toon I would rather join Vonflare's wagon.

Also, You feel ok about Magua? I've been playing with Soren a bit more and I think he might have been scum here.

have you played with toon before? cos he ain't lynchbait. the only thing that I don't like about the vonny wagon is who is on it. its mostly the lazy do nothing lurksack players.

magua is feeling me

up

out and I like that so yeah i am feeling okay about him. i don't know soren at all.

what is freaking me out is there is not 1 player here who's reads I am in sync with. I am finding town but it is super hard to work with them when we are not resonating at all.

[Marquis]

i'd rather not shoot toon because then most likely vonflare would be lynched

and i'd rather not waste either method of death on vonflare today

[Magua]

i'd rather not shoot toon because then most likely vonflare would be lynched

and i'd rather not waste either method of death on vonflare today

Who not to shoot is not useful unless paired with who to shoot.

[Marquis]

also, toon is not lynchbait

vonflare is lynchbait. he was sticking out of the crowd for several reasons that obviously did not include forming reads and votes to lazily align with whatever the popular cause of the time was, as toon as been doing

[Cerberus v666]

@Magua: I don't actually want neighbor claims.

This does not seem to be the tone of 1181 or 1188. Why bring it up at all if you are not looking to get neighbor claims or not-neighbor claims? Especially because the immediate reaction is for a bunch of people to not-neighbor claim.

I gathered all that information because Marquis said there was only one person to investigate, and I was certain there had been more than one person who claimed to be a neighbor. I was apparently wrong.

What does investigations have to do with neighbors?

So you gather your information and find only one person who claimed. Why post this resulting in more not-neighbor claims then?

Tell me your thought process.

There were no further not neighbor claims, but just people reiterating what they had already stated in the thread. Posts which I had missed.

Never-Melt-Ice, who was replaced by Marquis, claimed to be a Neighbor Day Cop, stating their role allowed them to send in an investigation on someone during the day and, if the person was part of a neighborhood, get a result back during the night. They asked for the neighbor claims as a result of this. That's the connection between investigations and neighbors.

I posted everything because there's no reason to make anyone else who is curious have to comb through the thread to collect said information. The information is available in the thread, I as curious about Marquis' claim to only have on target, and once I had the data gathered I just shared it with everyone.

[Marquis]

i'd rather not shoot toon because then most likely vonflare would be lynched

and i'd rather not waste either method of death on vonflare today

Who not to shoot is not useful unless paired with who to shoot.

i made a decently-sized post about it post- your replace in

so let me go get and edit it again

[copper223]

@Mollie
I just finished a game with Toon and I thought he was scum on D1 because almost always his scumreads where what you'd want to give as scum to be able to join of the main wagons of the day and he did not explain them in depth, he also disappeared multiple times only to come back and bandwagon the largest wagon. He has done some of this today as well, if you know him well by all means tell me why he is scum.

[Lihin]

Molla claimed Miller with a night-skip ability if they have the second highest amount of votes.
Ice claimed: Neighbour day-cop, a day-cop that can only investigate neighbours.
Drixx claimed to be a faction specific bullet-proof.
I claimed Vengilante, a one-shot mix of a vengeful and a vigilante.

I think that was everyone...

In my opinion those claims seem fairly townish, except for the bulletproof claim.
Does Drixx know which faction he is immune to? (not looking for an actual claim of which; just if he knows)

[Marquis]

@Marquis
Propose better vig shots if you don't like the names floating about.

oh no, i'm talking about lynches

we have so few of them in between multiple scum nightkills that i'd rather not waste them on what are essentially groupthink policy lynches

feel free to vig the ones with little contribution (or the rare ones you don't like and oddly enough i don't like as well), namely:

3. Toon Fighter
5. Ozgin
13. PeregrineV
16. BRantz
19. Soren
21. deathfisaro
23. Reubus Swagrid
24. Dani

and out of those i think we should limit our lynchpool to:

3. Toon Fighter
3. Toon Fighter
3. Toon Fighter

list updated to account for current concerns

5. Ozgin
13. PeregrineV
16. BRantz
21. deathfisaro
23. Reubus Swagrid
24. Dani/replacement

and yes, before anyone asks, i am fine with lurker shooting. i am not fine with lurker lynching, unless i have good enough reason to believe the lurking is scum rather than null

[Marquis]

hello, lihin. are you a neighbor? are you not a neighbor? please answer since you are here now

[Magua]

@Cerberus:

Unaware of the Neighbor-Cop claim. I agree that neighbors should claim. I am not a neighbor.

[Lihin]

I am not a neighbor.

[Marquis]

thank you

if anyone else without significant experience in this type of situation would like to protest having all players claim "neighbor" or "not neighbor",

please don't

[Magua]

Dude, I didn't know there was a reason, I just saw Cerberus posting the info.

[LucianRoy]

I just ISO'd toon-fighter.

What's so ultra-scummy about him?
Sheeping with reasons, yet little explanation?

[Marquis]

also i would like to remind neighbors that you have no sensible reason to hide your status from a neighbor daycop if you are town (even if you don't believe my claim there is nothing significant that i could do specifically to a neighbor that would not also out myself as scum), and delaying further is anti-town and scum-motivated

and hammer should not occur until i have confirmed sending in my action

[vonflare]

i doubt that there is just one neighbourhood if nevermeltice is truthful.

Be honest people.

[Oranje Crush]

Well, the mod just pretty much confirmed lucian as vig. Lol

[Magua]

I think the dayvig was going to go ahead and confirm him regardless.