We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[LucianRoy]

When I make a kill today, and we possibly figure out who to lynch, can we use molla's ability as well so that we have two conf towns alive and well tomorrow?

[Marquis]

considering today's voting history when we've only just been trying to get wagons for lynch consideration

i highly doubt trying to maneuver both that and a second-place molla wagon is that feasible

[God of Power Outlets]

Who will be left after we all get nightkilled? Scum and some undesirable players (and no I don't mean bad players I mean players who won't be obviously town). Hence why we keep pushing for a kill that is beneficial all around...

I agree with Lucian, we should give it a shot. I have been in a game where BBMolla has had a 'provable' claim, only to be unable to produce this proof for days (cause he was scum), so I'd like to get my paranoia about him out of the way ASAP.

[Marquis]

i just "replaced in" and already have more posts than toon, jackel, bulbahydra, reubus, and peregrinev combined

and my posts are actually [mostly] relevant

[Marquis]

I have been in a game where BBMolla has had a 'provable' claim, only to be unable to produce this proof for days (cause he was scum), so I'd like to get my paranoia about him out of the way ASAP.

if you're talking about inuyasha mafia which is your shared experience that matches most closely to this assertion

wasn't that under the pressure of a major wagon

not to mention his scumpartner's, not his?

[LucianRoy]

"5. Ozgin
8. Bulbasaur Commonwealth (Bulbazak & mastin2 & Voidedmafia)
10. Jackel98
12. Drixx
13. PeregrineV
21. deathfisaro
23. Reubus Swagrid
24. Lihin"

Smart mafia would never choose one-hundred-percent town-names, so I'm inclined to believe that there are definitely scum on this list.
Even if Marquis might be scum, which I would discredit due to his townishness at the moment.

I need to think about my kill.
I should also think about copper's suggestions.
They were toon, vyse, and drixx.

If anyone else has any more names they want me to think about, then they should state them again.

[Marquis]

i really do want you to consider jackel, as well as bulba/pv (you don't have experience with the latter two, which i think might be helpful for objectivity)

[ActionDan]

Drixx what do you think of the chances of an SK are in this game?

[ActionDan]

Also something came up which I may explain

[ActionDan]

btw don't shoot just yet MR. Lucian

[ActionDan]

also Drixx, do you think it's a plain old "mafia" / (BBmolla's suggestion that there's volcano mafia) and some other whacky off beat faction name for something that might as well be called mafia#2 (like werewolfs for instance)?

[copper223]

@Lucian
I like the addition of Jackel98 and Bulbasaur to the list, please make up your mind pretty soon, as in 24hrs max, and ask that player to claim before going through with it. BRantz disbelieving your claim is a more of a town dumbtell, I agree with whoever said this and the same read applies to Oranje.

@Marquis
I'd be quite surprised if Mollie doesn't flip town.

@Vyse
I will reply to your posts shortly after making a coffee and reading them properly, just caught up on the last 3 pages of content.

[Marquis]

oh wow

i kept thinking it was vyse who claimed faction specific bp

yeah nvm drixx is town it matches what i saw early day 1 well

[Marquis]

silly dark blue avatars

[Drixx]

You're asking me a question that I have at least a 50/50 chance of knowing the answer to. The specificity of the question feels super wrong.

VOTE: ActionDan

There's sufficient reason to believe that ActionDan just slipped, if you have read my role PM. Trust me or don't, my vote is staying on him until he's dead.

[Marquis]

is the "slip" invalidated by public knowledge that multiple scumteams exist?

[copper223]

You're asking me a question that I have at least a 50/50 chance of knowing the answer to. The specificity of the question feels super wrong.

VOTE: ActionDan

There's sufficient reason to believe that ActionDan just slipped, if you have read my role PM. Trust me or don't, my vote is staying on him until he's dead.

Ah interesting, so you somehow got caugt in a lie Drixx?

@Marquis
as town Drixx would say.

[Drixx]

is the "slip" invalidated by public knowledge that multiple scumteams exist?

No, it's not.

[Drixx]

You're asking me a question that I have at least a 50/50 chance of knowing the answer to. The specificity of the question feels super wrong.

VOTE: ActionDan

There's sufficient reason to believe that ActionDan just slipped, if you have read my role PM. Trust me or don't, my vote is staying on him until he's dead.

Ah interesting, so you somehow got caugt in a lie Drixx?

@Marquis
as town Drixx would say.

If you just facepalmed yourself, add a few more.

Consider what I might have been told in a Role PM that matches my claimed role, and then read ActionDan's post. I didn't think I would need to hold

your

hand to the conclusion. ActionDan is scum fishing for whether or not I'm immune to his faction.

[Marquis]

i really don't think actiondan is new enough to mafia to outright ask to stall for that question as scum

in other words it's not a slip but it's kind of a shallow scumread reason

[copper223]

If you just facepalmed yourself, add a few more.

Consider what I might have been told in a Role PM that matches my claimed role, and then read ActionDan's post. I didn't think I would need to hold your hand to the conclusion. ActionDan is scum fishing for whether or not I'm immune to his faction.

More likely he has a role that tells him something about factions and thinks you said something which implies you are lying, I'd be very amused if this were a bus as well but that's just me showing my human nature about wanting to be right about my reads more than likely.

Why does scum_Dan first bother to defend you via a fakeclaim and then turns on you my friend? That is scum_suicide_plan_101 and I don't think that's what he is about, your panic reaction of immediately going for a 1v1 because he "slipped" doesn't make much sense either, nor does you telling me I should be facepalming myself after telling me (a read I frankly hope and believe you wouldn't have of me in this game if you actually were town) that I am scum.

[ActionDan]

ActionDan is scum fishing for whether or not I'm immune to his faction.

My question now is,

Are you immune to a specific scum faction

yes/no?

[ActionDan]

Let me correct that.

Are you immune to a specific scum faction that ISN'T an SK

[Drixx]

i really don't think actiondan is new enough to mafia to outright ask to stall for that question as scum

in other words it's not a slip but it's kind of a shallow scumread reason

Just on a quick skim through old games, there have been quite a few different names for various "mafia" factions. The thing that klaxoned as a slip to me was naming a specific faction in the question. I've already said I won't confirm which particular faction flavor I'm immune to, but there he is fishing for that info and even dangling a common faction name in there for me to slip up in confirming or denying. If I assume for a moment that ActionDan is a member of the "for example" faction he listed, then his post is a check on whether or not his faction can kill me disguised as a question asking me to do something I already said I wouldn't.

Further, since it's open knowledge that this game is a mash-up of two other games, he also appears to potentially be fishing for a way to narrow down the possibilities in the setup. Assume for a moment that ActionDan is a member of a hypothetical "Non-werewolf" mafia team, and they have identified what they think is the game that makes up 1/2 of this setup based upon whatever they got. Then further assume that the claimed neighbor daycop and/or retributive dayvig appear in another setup that includes a "werewolf" mafia team. Solving the game seems like something that would be a gigantic benefit to scum.

Yes, I'm that paranoid.

[Drixx]

Let me correct that.

Are you immune to a specific scum faction that ISN'T an SK

Paranoid about an SK that might have picked up your scum vibes? Didn't I already claim fully?

I am a town aligned faction specific bulletproof. I will not specify the faction, although it

is

known to me which faction I'm immune to.