We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[Oranje Crush]

What did I just read?

kuribo being hilarious and people having no sense of humor.

Seriously you all are fucking boring. Kuribo's rage is more funny than offensive.

[ActionDan]

(although I assume our protections are against opposite factions)

Again. In the "broad" sense?

[Oranje Crush]

For the record if I have to choose between all you kids leaving or kuribo I'm choosing you kids

This is the single best post in the history of mafia.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

It's not just me. Every single read up there is based on a projection, and there's no substance behind the rhetoric. I was scumreading you for that before, but you're being way too obvious now. At least, I'd expected you to shift away from me now that your reasoning is pretty dead at the moment.

That sounds like a misrep, considering the state of his reads about, what, 10-20 pages earlier? (or 5-15, either/or)

UNVOTE:
I'm not liking any of the main wagons roght now besides vonflare, I'm hesitant to vote him yet though.
Lucian claimed fudge vig so he's out of the picture for now.

Why don't you like the Vyse wagon?

heh

pirate ika is scum

i'm fine with vigging them though, toon today

...I don't get it.

Can't we fudge mass-claim?
If not today, tommorow?

Hey, wgeurts (it is geurts, right?), what is "fudge" supposed to mean?

Guys if you also have kill powers, claim now.

II. Each faction has its own kill flavour.

We could catch lucian with flavour:

I see this post, and it makes me squint. Or wince. Something like that.

But it just sets me on edge, and I can't really pinpoint why.

I'm not sure if Magua's being intentionally obtuse or just hasn't read the thread.

is pitiful 5 days before dl. there has not been 1 strong this entire day round much less a cw to look at. town needs to consolidate.

I'm...pretty sure Lucian had about 7 votes before his claim. And then some of the other wagons popped up as counters (not that I'm complaining about the Vyse one).

the single voters need to get off their pathetic vanity wagons and make use of their vote cos if we wind up not lynching because y'all are too busy derping and stroking your egos I am going to be pissed cos it will basically mean a waste of a day.

Calm your tits, Mollie.

(probly gonna vote Vyse once I'm done, anyways).

I could kill vonflare and have everyone on his wagon scramble to find a new person to vote for.

Maybe that would be a better option?

I'd go to toon if you did that

I...Guess that'd work.

what is freaking me out is there is not 1 player here who's reads I am in sync with. I am finding town but it is super hard to work with them when we are not resonating at all.

I'm sorry I'm not here with you, Mollie.

vonflare is lynchbait. he was sticking out of the crowd for several reasons that obviously did not include forming reads and votes to lazily align with whatever the popular cause of the time was, as toon as been doing

Sarcasm?

In my opinion those claims seem fairly townish, except for the bulletproof claim.Does Drixx know which faction he is immune to? (not looking for an actual claim of which; just if he knows)

I guess Bulb's not the only one.

(also your avatar is fucking creepy. It stares into my soul...and that stupid

smile...

)

So I have 3 scum reads at the moment (strongest-weakest) Vonflare-Soren-You (Lucian).

Notice this was after I claimed.

After

I claimed.

I'm not seeing the context or anything for this. This going back to your stuff on page 46-ish?

(Besides, if it's after the claim, then it's possibly because of the claim, in which case I agree with him!)

well i was hoping you'd kill someone sooner rather than later anyway as if you're town you've already claimed so you should use it today and to make a target decision it needs to be soon so i have time to decide based on that flip and what's happened since then

Or so we can swing a lynch on his ass if/when the dayvig is fake.

I'm not illustrating it well, due to rushing, but your thought process feels like you don't like my play, and you're continuously shifting to keep a read on me. Hence why I think you're tunneling.

Okay, but is it a town tunnel or scum tunnel?

Not averse to Jackel being shot. I'd practically forgotten about him, to be honest.

53-57 is next, whee.

-Ivy

(Btw, every single in-hydra post except for one has been Ivy. The only one that hasn't is Venusaur's back on, like, page 10 or something. Just so no one's assigning blame wrongly.)

[Oranje Crush]

brantz is

lynchbait

scum

ftfy

[Oranje Crush]

I'm scum for asking people who already voluntarily outed themselves as masons to confirm each other? Interesting stretch.

Not necessarily scum.

Stupid is an alternative.

Mason partners don't claim until round before LyLo once one mason has claimed.

[Oranje Crush]

I think you misunderstand. Perhaps I am biased; strike that, I

know

I'm biased because one of the people on that hydra was posting very discomforting stuff all day phase even before the blow up. I'm suggesting that one of the people on the hydra decided to claim mason instead of neighbor, when not actually mason. This stems from a bit of hesitation to believe that a mason team would be in a 13 person game; however, my experience is primarily off site and masons wouldn't have been used in that playgroup with under 20 people.

I don't like this post.

Masons in 13p games is also pretty common.

[Oranje Crush]

Huh, interesting. What did I do that makes me have no chance of being town?

Oh my god this is scum

VOTE: Death

[Oranje Crush]

her

Uh...

Om is a guy...

[copper223]

He did not specify and someone used the female pronoun so I switched.

[Oranje Crush]

Mass claiming will clarify a lot, however cops should fake claim.

adfjakl;sdgha;lskhgaksdl;fjlashdg;asdfjalksjdf NO. CONSULT WITH ME BEFORE SAYING SHIT LIKE THIS >:C

[Oranje Crush]

He did not specify and someone used the female pronoun so I switched.

[Marquis]

neighbor claims

the context is right there why are you ignoring the context

Why the fuck are you pushing so hard for neighbor claims? Knowing who all the neighbors are is more helpful to scum than town.

i think i've gotten enough neighbor information to figure out that some neighbors are lying about not being neighbors

My assumption is that Chivi will eventually tell who is/are his neighbor(s). because why not

IF dual scum neighbors exist that'd be funny.

Wait until they claim they aren't neighbours.

My neighbor hasn't claimed

on purpose

because unlike you

morons

we realize that having scum know who all the neighbors are is a shitty idea.

Lucian, can you vig Marquis?

I don't like rolefishers.

P-EDIT: copper, if all neighbors are known about, scum will kill one of each neighborhood to get rid of people who are practically conf-town to eachother.

oh my god i'm laughing so fucking hard right now

who is your neighbor, sweetie?

[Oranje Crush]

do you always make like 25 posts at once? Without even looking at content, this just seems

panicky

to me - and I don't see a huge reason for town to feel that way.

1) Yes, because walls are anti-town

2) I don't think you know what the bolded word means.

[Oranje Crush]

I think you need to look up and relearn the definition of panicky.

lolololololololol

[Oranje Crush]

Bro 49% scum in a game where base chance of someone being scum is 6/25=24% is really fucking high.

Like I get what you're saying but your math is wrong.

There is a difference between how objectively likely it is a player is scum and how I read them wrt the two alignments which in this case was a smidge more town than scum and that's what those probabilities are for.

Again, I get what you're saying. That doesn't change your math being wrong. I'll explain it to you post-game.

[Oranje Crush]

TA vyse is a lurker, but he's not scummy. I bet there's scum on that wagon tho.

Given that it was CW to you, that's a weird thing to say.

[Om of the Nom]

He did not specify and someone used the female pronoun so I switched.

tbf i dont actually care so i dont bother corecting




also marquis tell me who to vote bc i have barely read anything and i dont care to either

[Oranje Crush]

Like, if you're town, and a CW forms to a wagon on you fairly quickly, do you just think that scum didn't want to lynch you and go on with your day?

[Oranje Crush]

Okay. Same here. Life is busy. WILL MAKE WALL!

What if, instead of making a wall, you didn't do that.

[Oranje Crush]

Okay I have to go pack now. Wgeurts will be taking over for the next week because I'mma be drunk and networking and theoretically learning things.

[LucianRoy]

So, I'm killing toon in the next 24 if he doesn't claim by then.

Reason A: It might make the town stop bickering if we got some kills on the board.
Reason B: His death would give us more info as to who the scum are, and I'm inclined to think that there are more scum on his wagon than Vonflare's. It would help with reads, etc.
Reason C: Killing toon would make people revise their votes, which would be quite interesting to see.
Reason D: At this point, it kind of looks like he's going to die anyway. Might as well finish the job early so we can gain the info.
Reason E: (Insert something about Marquis upon death)

[Cerberus v666]

And if he does claim by then?

[Cerberus v666]

And it's a satisfying and very town claim?

[copper223]

I understood the objection the first time, I am basically saying that probability is 23% for me if the average is 24% given my read on the player, written like this the point, which was to say I consider him to be slightly more likely to be town rather than scum in comparison to a random slot, is lost to skimmers.