We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[LucianRoy]

Death is driving the vig-shot of Jackel... interesting.
Alrighty, I'll make the kill. No more waiting.

[ActionDan]

wait plz.

[ActionDan]

a claim may be busted. that's not drixx's

[LucianRoy]

Alright, I canceled, but it really sounds like we're waiting for something that will never happen.

[ActionDan]

it will happen one way or another. I just prefer drixx's answer first

[ActionDan]

Marquis/Ice how do you get results? does it come in the typical form of "guilty / not guilty" ?

[copper223]

@Lucian

Alright, I canceled, but it really sounds like we're waiting for something that will never happen.

Wait for the guy to

CLAIM

before shooting please, just tell us who you would like to shoot and give that person some time to reply before going ahead.

Jackal's play today has been an AtE that he sucks as town so we should leave him alone and some harried posting when you claimed vig. that he was going to write a wall which he then did not follow through with, not a big fan because he seems to try a bit more in other games, not sure I'd call him scum for it though but it's not a bad shot as things stand.

@Oranje
Wgeurts you should keep BROseidon on V/LA, I did not think it was possible to make me not read you as town at least for today but he is trying super hard.

@deathfisaro
What's your reply to TPTG and Mollie's votes anspd their case on you, what do you think of their alignments?

[deathfisaro]

@Copper
Can you refer me to the posts? Because IIRC Pirate Ika's vote on me was naked and I don't remember much "case" from TPTG on me.

edit:
OK ISO'd PI, hopping around popular wagons and low hanging fruits, reasoning behind his vote on me was extremely weak, leaning scum.
I don't know why you asked me what I think of "their" alignments since TPTG and Toon claimed mason with each other. Are you asking me if I believe their claims? If so then yes.

[copper223]

Huh, interesting. What did I do that makes me have no chance of being town?

Oh my god this is scum

VOTE: Death

This is the basis for PI's vote

[copper223]

We'd really like to talk about deathfisaro more as a lynch.

Sure I am listening, do you have something to add to your points up to 861?

Well I mean his 'reaction test' is a lol thing scum do to pretend to be town. To be honest since our last big post I (T-Bone) haven't been following the game closely (my active days are gonna be later in the week) UT is supposed to handle the load earlier in the week, but he's v/la. I haven't had enough time to even write erotica this evening. You've followed the last couple of days much more closely than I have, so I'd like your thoughts since then.

This is from TPTG and they explain more in detail 2 posts after.

[deathfisaro]

Yeah I saw PI's. He hasn't noticed me whole game and pick on me for a post after Drixx wagon lost momentum.

As for the plays regarding reaction test and stuff, there's a reason behind it but it's probably post game material.
I've never tried reaction testing as scum, so maybe I should start doing it when I'm scum to look town, if that's what people generally think. Probably better than not voting and just wasting time all game long.

[copper223]

@mod: please prod Jackal98

[LucianRoy]

Death, you played a scum-game with copper. What's your read on him?

[Cuttlefish]

Titus has replaced Reubus Swagrid.
Jackel98 has been unofficially prodded.

[copper223]

Thanks.

[deathfisaro]

Considering how good his last scum game was, I'm still somewhat cautious but I don't find anything particularly scummy or that gives the same vibe as last game.

[Oranje Crush]

Fudge shoot someone now or we'll end up with too little time to make use of the shot. Kill jackal, he's scummy and it looks like you're chickening out.

[Oranje Crush]

Copper, claim would be amazing however jackals' a lurker and I doubt the prod will get us anything more than an apology. If we shoot someone too late the mafia will quickly compromise a mis-lynch. We shoot now or we don't I say, we need time to think through whatever results we get and waiting on jackals stretching our time. I seriously doubt he's suddenely coming back.

[Oranje Crush]

Also, copper's town and if he isn't I'm mad and he deserves it.

[Titus]

Considering how good his last scum game was, I'm still somewhat cautious but I don't find anything particularly scummy or that gives the same vibe as last game.

I hate this post but not necessarily for alignment related purposes. I generally have a good scum game and I feel it hinders my towngame.

[Titus]

What's this deal with shooting day 1? I need to read maybe. I don't want to though but no VCA

[copper223]

@Oranje

Deadline falls in 4 days, 20 hours, 25 minutes, this means Lucian should just shoot an unclaimed random? I don't think so.

If jackel98 posts an apology without claiming then sure go ahead, but this is how it should go down.

1. Lucian posts who he wants to shoot, he should have already done so.

2. The player that is going to be vig shot claims and if town hopefully tells us why we shouldn't shoot him in particular.

3. The player is shot or the process is repeated if there is a very good reason why he should not be shot.

I dislike your constant requests for a mass claim and now you pushing for a yolo shot, I think it's dumb play at best.

[Oranje Crush]

Welcome titus, I'm wgeurts and these are town:
Copper
Boon
TPTG
Lucian
Some claimed mason with TPTG
ChriVi
Death

[Oranje Crush]

Copper, then I suggest we don't shoot. Stall till tommorow (if he's vengeful we won't loose anything as he'll shoot anyway) and then with any information we get we can choose a better target. Mass-claiming day 2 may not be bad as well, as this is two separate setups they will not have checked for cross balance.
We could potentially break the setup, anyone disagree?

I'm getting cold feet with a vig shot, I don't want a last second frenzy.

[VysePresident]

Seriously guys? :-/

Honestly, I've been pretty darn overwhelmed this game, and it's extremely frustrating to be getting scumread for not being active as I'd like. I don't even particularly care about the 'case' on me. (Okay, that's a lie. You guys owe me actual reasons for scumreading me.)

@Lucian - You really should be shooting BRantz. BRantz is scummy, Jackel's just dead. Don't get me wrong, I'd much prefer to lynch him, but I'm not sure if I have the time & ability to shift this wagon. (Largely the former, but I'm not used to being pressured for my natural playstyle, and this is confusing for me.)

I know BRantz. I can believe a bad call from him like what happened with the Neighbor deal, but the lack of actual content from him is terrible. He can be mislynch bait, sure, but he's pretty darn involved as a Townie. Believe me, I've tried to mislynch him before & I've seen both his Town & Scum games, and I don't think this is Town BRantz. More on this when I get home from work.

I honestly don't think a single wagon of the day has been on scum, now that Toon is cleared. The only one even remotely iffy is Drixx, and I'm not seriously interested in that today.