We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[Narninian]

I agree that all these pro-town information roles don't add up so well, but obviously we'd be wrong to move against a claimed investigative role of any sort on day 1. There *are* going to be multiple because its likely both minis have them, and if they're conditional enough each mini could have multiple.

[Titus]

A tracker is possible. I also am a PR, but very swingy (as indicated).

Is there something with the masons?

What is a gated neighborhood?

Cerebus sounds a lot like me when I was trying to get town to self-lynch in Hilarious...

[copper223]

@Titus
Marquis claims to be a day-cop that can get results only on the alignment of neighbors, he asked us to tell him if we are part of a neighborhood because if he targets non-neighbors his shots just fails, he says he gets his results at the start of the night phase.

[Jackel98]

Honestly, I want to make it past N1 so that I could track somebody, maybe track a person to the kill, and at least have some information. I'll participate. I just got lost at the beginning of the game, and with five pages to read a day I could barely keep up.

Also, copper, I see no reason for all of these roles to not be in the same game. After all, the game is two games smushed together without much forethought.

[Titus]

@Marquis, would masons set up as a neighborhood for your copping?

@copper, which two games? Is it possible this is role madness? Is it possible everyone is some sort of PR?

[Titus]

Not asking for a claim, but it's ok if I'm roleblocked tonight. I don't plan on acting. Me being forced to act is not helpful.

[copper223]

@Titus
This is role-madness, there is no VT. The mods claimed they designed 2 minis separately, checked for really broken stuff and removed that, then mashed the two games together.

[Narninian]

@Marquis, would masons set up as a neighborhood for your copping?

@copper, which two games? Is it possible this is role madness? Is it possible everyone is some sort of PR?

This game was made by making two 13 player minis w/ no vanilla roles and them smushing them together.

So yes, everyone is some sort of PR (apart from scum of course).

[Jackel98]

How do you know that there are vanilla scums?

[ActionDan]

Mod confirmed goons are not vts

[Titus]

Ok these last three posts need explanations...

are scums prs or not?

[ActionDan]

They could be. They likely all are

[Marquis]

i believe it is entirely possible for multiple investigatives to exist and due to the nature of the setup, i would prefer not to pursue questioning involving whether more than one of a certain role is possible

pedit

Vanillaless means no VT. There may or may not be goons, I don't remember lol.

[copper223]

I still don't buy that claim.

[Marquis]

@Marquis, would masons set up as a neighborhood for your copping?

don't think so, but given what cerb/chrivi revealed about their neighborhood i find it likely that they're neighbors with the same mechanic that claimed masons for simplicity's and their own sake. of course we're not going to lynch them so it's up to scum to kill them, but at least one of them is conftown so it'll be scum's problem

[Marquis]

based on play alone, i would have earlier said null to scum, but i'm not sure now. i tend to believe a lot of claims coming from play like that because a lot of the time it really is true that they were just lost/lazy-ass town

he does not have much utility with you also claiming tracker. b

[Marquis]

based on play alone, i would have earlier said null to scum, but i'm not sure now. i tend to believe a lot of claims coming from play like that because a lot of the time it really is true that they were just lost/lazy-ass town

he does not have much utility with you also claiming tracker. b

[God of Power Outlets]

We had asked about it after you claimed and the Mod told us Masons don't count as neighbors.

[Marquis]

...but as i would do in other scenarios, i would leave you both alive for now.

also, action sent.

[God of Power Outlets]

I had a thought that Jackel's claim was too simple based on some of the roles we have seen, am I overthinking that or what?

[copper223]

No that's also one of the reason I don't think it's genuine.

[copper223]

...but as i would do in other scenarios, i would leave you both alive for now.

As if there is any question I am town.

[Titus]

Can someone give me the list of claims?

1. Narninian
2. pirate ika (pirate mollie & ika)
3. Toon Fighter-mason with TPTG
4. Oranje Crush (BROseidon & wgeurts)
5. Ozgin
6. ActionDan-Faction Specific BP
7. Three Pronged Trouser God (Untrod Tripod & kuribo & T-Bone) - Mason with Toon Fighter
8. Bulbasaur Commonwealth (Bulbazak & mastin2 & Voidedmafia)
9. ChriVi (Chrimi & Viomi)-Neighbor with Cerberus, who claims ChriVi is confirmed town
10. Jackel98- Town Tracker
11. Boonskiies
12. Drixx-Faction Specifci BP
13. PeregrineV
14. vonflare
15. Cerberus v666-Neighbor with ChriVI
16. BRantz
17. Never-melt-ice Marquis- Neighbor Day Cop
18. LucianRoy -Vig/Venge
19. Soren Magua
20. VysePresident
21. deathfisaro
22. Om of the Nom
23. Reubus Swagrid
24. Dani Lihin
25. BBmolla - L-1 night skip(I don't remember if there was anything else)
26. copper223

That's all I can remember without reading through the thread again, I may have missed some. There were some specific claims of not being neighbors as well.

Why is there talk of a vig shot with no vig claimed?

[Marquis]

i think it's always been standard for mods to place "basic" roles as red herrings in role madness games

pedit i think you're town but it's a general guideline

will bbl

[Jackel98]

Or you're playing outguess the mod and they left one unmodified PR in.