Mini 1649: Jabberwocky Mafia (Game Over)

[Titus]

This whole talk better Tier and Flub makes me insanely uncomfortable.

[Belisarius]

My gut says he would scumbuddy town to set up false associatives for after he dies.

Your gut doesn't say that, my posts in our scum PT in our mutual scumgame says that. Wherefore art thou trying to take credit?

[Elbirn]

...you're trying to discredit my scum read of you because you said you'd do what you're doing here?

[Titus]

Elbrim, who were you scumreading at the end of yesterday?

[T S O]

I've considered that Axle's role made him suicide if town was lynched d1, but that doesn't explain why scum didn't powerbus him d1 for town cred.

It seems extremely likely he was vigged.

[Elbirn]

Actually, not even, I just reread that scum pt and you said nothing of the sort. so you're trying to discredit my thought with something you never even said, and if you had it would only have made my argument stronger.

Beli lynch now plz.

[Elbirn]

Elbrim, who were you scumreading at the end of yesterday?

BRantz beli far, why?

[Titus]

I've considered that Axle's role made him suicide if town was lynched d1, but that doesn't explain why scum didn't powerbus him d1 for town cred.

It seems extremely likely he was vigged.

I have thought that powerbussing might have happened though hence why flub is awkward.


@Elbrim, Because I want to be insane town Titus.

Let's lynch farside.

[Titus]

VOTE: Farside

[farside22]

I don't see very much interaction with axel and vm.
I also support the beli wagon I agree with elb.

[FA_Q2]

Even with BRantz flipping town I still don't think I like Belisarius. That clear logical contradiction feels like agenda to me. Why did he want BRantz wagon to fail, but he wanted to push through a policy lynch? My gut says he would scumbuddy town to set up false associatives for after he dies. And then there's 529 which again is crap and looks like the kind of thing he did in my past game with him.

Axel is starting to be a scum read.

I want to hear more on this. I can't read Axel.

Non-commital, wishywashy stance on your buddy much?

Belisarius

I don't think that is something scum would do with a suicidal partner....

[FA_Q2]

will do ISO reads with axle and tell you guys what I think

This is problematic though. Considering that axle likely knew he was going to die then I would venture a guess that he would have been interacting with that very thought in his mind.

Pretty much anytime I look at his posts it becomes a giant befuddled WIFOM. I am not sure we can draw anything concrete from his posts.

[FA_Q2]

Where is the reasoning on beli?

Yesterday I understood the case - he was defending BR a lot - to much particularly with the scum case around him. Now we have a flip and BR was town - that certainly does not lead me to scum. Then he jumped on my wagon with a weak reason but a reason nonetheless. There was some early pressuring titus but nothing that was scum worthy IMHO.

[FA_Q2]

I would like to hear VM on last nights occurrences.

Where you at VM?

[farside22]

I've considered that Axle's role made him suicide if town was lynched d1, but that doesn't explain why scum didn't powerbus him d1 for town cred.

It seems extremely likely he was vigged.

I have thought that powerbussing might have happened though hence why flub is awkward.


@Elbrim, Because I want to be insane town Titus.




You doing a VCA or you scum let me know so I can put it together then.
Let's lynch farside.

[farside22]

Even with BRantz flipping town I still don't think I like Belisarius. That clear logical contradiction feels like agenda to me. Why did he want BRantz wagon to fail, but he wanted to push through a policy lynch? My gut says he would scumbuddy town to set up false associatives for after he dies. And then there's 529 which again is crap and looks like the kind of thing he did in my past game with him.

Axel is starting to be a scum read.

I want to hear more on this. I can't read Axel.

Non-commital, wishywashy stance on your buddy much?

Belisarius

I don't think that is something scum would do with a suicidal partner....

Barely anyone communicated with axel.

I'll put a note to check into suicidal scum sometime soon as to what, when and why.

[T S O]

Actually, not even, I just reread that scum pt and you said nothing of the sort. so you're trying to discredit my thought with something you never even said, and if you had it would only have made my argument stronger.

Beli lynch now plz.

I support a Belisarius lynch. I don't really know or care why Elbirn does, but I was scumreading him d1.

[T S O]

VOTE: Belisarius

[farside22]

So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.

Votecount 1.5

TierShift [L-3] - BRantz, Elbirn, Titus, AxleGreaser

Titus [L-5] - Belisarius, Witness Protection
AxleGreaser [L-6] - TierShift
Belisarius [L-6] - Seraphim
BRantz [L-6] - farside22
farside22 [L-6] - Valkyrie Mollie

Not Voting [3] - hi im Yakko, Debonair Danny DiPietro, T S O

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2015-03-10 20:00:00).

"Let's hear it", said Humpty Dumpty. "I can explain all the poems that ever were invented--and a good many that haven't been invented just yet."

Votecount 1.15

BRantz [L-3] - Valkyrie Mollie, hi im Yakko, Elbirn, T S O

TierShift [L-4] - Titus, AxleGreaser, BRantz
Valkyrie Mollie [L-4] - farside22, TierShift
Belisarius [L-6] - Seraphim
hi im Yakko [L-6] - Aeronaut
Aeronaut [L-6] - Belisarius
Seraphim [L-6] - Witness Protection

Not Voting [0] -

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2015-03-11 20:00:00).

Elbirn, Axle, and Tier are V/LA.
Flubbernugget replaces Aeronaut, deadline has been modified.

This sounded very hopeful, so Alice repeated the first verse:

Votecount 1.16

BRantz [L-2] - Valkyrie Mollie, hi im Yakko, T S O, Flubbernugget, Titus
Seraphim [L-2] - Witness Protection, Elbirn, BRantz, farside22, Belisarius

TierShift [L-6] - AxleGreaser
Valkyrie Mollie [L-6] - TierShift
Belisarius [L-6] - Seraphim

Not Voting [0] -

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2015-03-11 20:00:00).

Elbirn, Axle, and Tier are V/LA.
Prodding some people or something.

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:

Votecount 1.17

Seraphim [L-1] - Witness Protection, Elbirn, BRantz, farside22, Belisarius, Valkyrie Mollie

BRantz [L-2] - hi im Yakko, T S O, Flubbernugget, Titus, TierShift
Belisarius [L-6] - Seraphim

Not Voting [1] - AxleGreaser

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2015-03-11 20:00:00).

Some people are probably V/LA.

"That's enough to begin with", Humpty Dumpty interrupted: "there are plenty of hard words there."

Votecount 1.19

FA_Q2 [L-1] - Witness Protection, Elbirn, BRantz, farside22, Belisarius, Valkyrie Mollie
BRantz [L-1] - hi im Yakko, T S O, Flubbernugget, Titus, TierShift, FA_Q2

Not Voting [1] - AxleGreaser

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2015-03-13 22:00:00).

So since titus isn't doing this for some reason let's review.

Faq was at l1 as was brantz. Axel scum could have lynched faq but he never said boo towards the player. I'll leave that wifom for a little and note that yakko and vm stayed on brantz, but vm switched for unknown reason and all titus did was push on titus and brantz and I don't recall anything from titus or axel day one.


Still have the vm and titus paranoia due to lack of interaction from both of them hence why my vote stands on vm currently.

[FA_Q2]

I think axl WAS set to die at N1, without a scum kill. This makes the setup most probably 9:2 after N1, which is pretty much balanced if town is weak.

I don't think him suiciding is too townsided or replacing the NK is too townsided. A NK would make it evens, which is something the mod might have tried to prevent.

This actually makes sense. Whatever stopped the NK might have very well caused the suicide to take place. That is the only thing that fits with current information that we have thus far. We night have gotten very lucky with this night.

[Valkyrie Mollie]

faq2 I might like you.

cos tier is pretty obvsly town here.

still stand behind my town!jon read who is witness protection if he flakes i am going to dropkick him in his kneecap.

in other newz titus, far and tso are not in my liking pool titus last tso in the forefront and far in the middle but not losing site of those who are curling around the edges. I don't even know who they are but they are there and it will become more apparent as time goes by.

I am contemplating by the tumtum tree.

[goodmorning]

"Well, 'slithy' means 'lithe and slimy'. 'Lithe' is the same as 'active'. You see it's like a portmanteau--there are two meanings packed up into one word."

Votecount 2.1

Belisarius [L-3] - Elbirn, TierShift, T S O

Valkyrie Mollie [L-5] - farside22
farside22 [L-5] - Titus

Not Voting [6] - Witness Protection, hi im Yakko, Valkyrie Mollie, Belisarius, FA_Q2, Flubbernugget

With 11 alive, it takes

6

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2015-03-29 10:00:00).

[Flubbernugget]

I thought I saw dissonance between your way of looking at axle for associatives and your actual associatives with him.

I don't understand what this means. What exactly do you think you saw?

I saw you suggesting he was a good vig target as distancing and a possible attempt to waste a town kill. However it is more likely that you share my sentiments of how apathetic his posting can make a game.

[Titus]

Mollie, you never like me.

Tier seems to know a lot about a suicidal role that the mod is conviently unable to clarify.

[Titus]

@Farside, I don't do vca until day 2 or 3 usually. Plus I wanted to know what Axle knew when he imploded.