We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[God of Power Outlets]

Wow it's a good thing Ogzin has so much fucking town credit AMIRITE?

[Narninian]

Wow it's a good thing Ogzin has so much fucking town credit AMIRITE?

well he's staking everything on his claim now.

[God of Power Outlets]

Shoot, if Pirate ika flips scum it makes me likelier town proving scum are driving my push and if ika flips town we lynch ozgin. Win win

Vote: Oranje Crush

We need to lynch this with haste. Holy hell. Like, I was buying the Lirin case....but this is a scum claim.

[Pirate Ika]

I am fucking mental here

You're mental because you won't claim and you're a liar and you're caught. If you get shot, I'll be able to live another night and I'll get to investigate another person.

Also, my ability names (not that they matter) are:

Gumshoe: Learn the name and alignment of any player at night.
High-Stakes Profile: If you investigated a player who turned out to be non-town aligned, gain bulletproof when that player is killed during the following day phase.

@deathfisaro - I was joking

I did claim you fucking liar

we are the

town

role blocker and supposedly we receive fruit don't even fucking ask me why.

you are posturing the fuck out of this mislynch and you very well know it.

I don't believe you really think we are scum here.

[God of Power Outlets]

Wow it's a good thing Ogzin has so much fucking town credit AMIRITE?

well he's staking everything on his claim now.

Ummm, what claim?

I mean hell I can do that.

Everyone Narninian is scum, trust me

.

Is that all that we have to do...what do you mean NO? ....what do you mean that's kinda bullshit? ...do you want to live in a mafia world where I can't

BOLDLY

call a player scum and expect results?

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

Bulbasaur, if I may ask, what play of mine was stupid? Or at least, stupid in a way that it should be mentioned in the same breath as narninian choosing to redirect a kill to a cop rather than to a treestump/BP in an attempt to prevent the kill completely.

You spreading WIFOM about your neighborhood.

OC is still a good lynch.

Maybe. If they are who I think they are, they might be better off leashed, though.

Also how the fuck am I a "good lynch".
I was "fucking town" yesterday before twighlight. I claimed, didn't die and only one kill happened. How fucking far-streched is your mind to think that I'm still SK and not a commuter. ESPECIALLY when one night kill was blocked possibly be me.

Scum posting relying on "town status" to save them as a defense.

Agreed, VOTE: BBmolla
Time to explain.
Also, copper's starting to look shifty, I need to ISO him and look again.

More scum posting. Look at them preparing to jump on Copper.

It's as likely as narn redirecting it, I'm not saying it was me however one night kill didn't happen and there's achancebit was my commute. Fact.

So earlier you were trying to call someone SK for thinking there was an SK, but now you imply that there was an SK and that you blocked the shot?

Now, the whole argument that he's town because he claimed an unlikely scum role early game is worth nothing. It's called the fluffy kitten gambit (found it while sorting articles as wiki moderator, I've read a good deal of them now). Basically it's a gambit where someone claims a role that seems so unlikely for scum to claim at an unlikely time that people will hopefully see them as town due to the unlikelihood of scum actually claiming that. BB's a clever guy and a good mafia player, this isn't something I'd rule out. Maybe if this had come from a newbie or new player, I'd consider it town however BB's not that.
This makes his claim null, the ability claimed with it also isn't alignment indicative.

This is meaningless, and I think your reliance on the wiki tell is scummy. I've played with Molla, and I think he's less likely to do this as scum. The timing of his claim actually points more towards town, and his play is in line with his town play.

The beginning of the Lihin case is crap as well. Fluff is a non-tell, and you show an over-reliance on it. There are better reasons to suspect Lihin, but you go for the easy ones.

Shoot, if Pirate ika flips scum it makes me likelier town proving scum are driving my push and if ika flips town we lynch ozgin. Win win

Uh...no.

Somebody is calling for his immediate death (based on SOME sort of secret information), and he still thinks they are town with no explanation.
This doesn't make any sense to me.

This is a wacky game. There are a multitude of reasons why Ozgin could get incriminating results, be wrong, and still be town. Mollie has played in several such games recently, so her having a town read on Ozgin for how he goes about the claim, but saying he's wrong, doesn't seem too farfetched to me.

ACTUALLY HOW ABOUT WE ALL CLAIM

No.

Ika is a

Berlin Undercity Mafia

member.

I'm actually not sure how to take this. That literally just destroyed all my setup spec.

I'm going to discuss with the commonwealth.
-Bulbasaur

[Narninian]

Wow it's a good thing Ogzin has so much fucking town credit AMIRITE?

well he's staking everything on his claim now.

Ummm, what claim?

I mean hell I can do that.

Everyone Narninian is scum, trust me

.

Is that all that we have to do...what do you mean NO? ....what do you mean that's kinda bullshit? ...do you want to live in a mafia world where I can't

BOLDLY

call a player scum and expect results?

uhhh.....

I am fucking mental here

You're mental because you won't claim and you're a liar and you're caught. If you get shot, I'll be able to live another night and I'll get to investigate another person.

Also, my ability names (not that they matter) are:

Gumshoe: Learn the name and alignment of any player at night.
High-Stakes Profile: If you investigated a player who turned out to be non-town aligned, gain bulletproof when that player is killed during the following day phase.

@deathfisaro - I was joking

[God of Power Outlets]

I was speaking in hyperbole.

[Ozgin]

@Ozgin
Please ask the mod if you gain BP if we lynch a guilty of yours that was guilty by redirection but flips town. If you are investigative why did you go for PV over Jackel98, didn't his claim ping you hard with all the investigatives floating about?

Just a hunch.

Wow it's a good thing Ogzin has so much fucking town credit AMIRITE?

Hm, I wonder if there are multiple hydras on the scum team.

I am fucking mental here

You're mental because you won't claim and you're a liar and you're caught. If you get shot, I'll be able to live another night and I'll get to investigate another person.

Also, my ability names (not that they matter) are:

Gumshoe: Learn the name and alignment of any player at night.
High-Stakes Profile: If you investigated a player who turned out to be non-town aligned, gain bulletproof when that player is killed during the following day phase.

@deathfisaro - I was joking

I did claim you fucking liar

we are the

town

role blocker and supposedly we receive fruit don't even fucking ask me why.

you are posturing the fuck out of this mislynch and you very well know it.

I don't believe you really think we are scum here.

1) I didn't see your claim. Sorry.
2) Your claim is bullshit. Sorry.
3) I'm Canadian. Sorry.
4) I'm not sorry.

Furthermore, I DON'T HAVE TO "BELIEVE" THAT YOU'RE SCUM, I GOT A SHINY LITTLE PM THAT SAYS SO.

@copper The wording says, "If the investigated player

is anti-town,

gain bulletproof if that player is killed during the next day phase."

Also, I want Lucian to shoot ika for two reasons:

1) It allows us to speculate on who his scumpartners were during this day, as opposed until waiting for tomorrow.
2) It guarantees the activation of my ability (The ability says during, not after or at the end of, I just want to be extra cautious).
And 3) If I'm wrong (and trust me, I'm not), then you guys can lynch me on the grounds that you think I'm a dirty lying sack of shit. But I'm not. So I don't have to worry about this one so much.

PEDIT:

@TPTG I did a full claim, read with your eyes, not with your Scum QT.

[God of Power Outlets]

And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

The earth shattered, bellowing forth smoke and flame. The wails of uncountable tortured souls echoed from the pits. Awakened from his dark slumber, the creature emerged from the very bowels of hell itself. He rode astride a red horse cloaked in fire and blood. The fury of all mankind's numerous wars and genocides coursed through his veins. Raising his sword, the mighty Hatebringer, he stood before the people.

The Crimson Fucker had returned.

[deathfisaro]

If there's a town bus driver now might be a good time to at least crumb it.

omg if you are town I have words to say in post game

Hmm actually.
How does Berlin Undercity Mafia incinerate? Surely doesn't eviscerate as we linked that to Drixx's werewolf faction in his role PM. If werewolf is SK instead of mafia2, I don't understand Marquis' double shot death, so I was leaning heavily on "Volcano Mafia" and "Werewolf" as 2 scum factions.
Something somewhere is not right.
UNVOTE:

[deathfisaro]

Argh those lingering quotes!!! Ignore those.

[Pirate Ika]

and I am telling you that you are wrong.

like I bet I cls post this a million times and you still wld not get it.

we didn't receive fruit. based on my role pm we shld have received it but I am wondering if some1 else did cos your investigative is wrong.

the second you unmarry yourself from your result you will see the same picture that I am seeing.

I am not sure how I can make myself any clearer.

[God of Power Outlets]

ok two things:


1- I said this in the mason PT and I'll say it here, setup spec is the most boring fucking thing ever. Stop fucking claiming every five seconds and stop trying to outguess the mod. It literally makes me hate all of you.

2- if ozgin is claiming a guilty on mollie, there's only one play to make: one of them has to die

unvote
Vote: pirate ika

That's all. Having a shitty day, don't bother engaging me if you have soft feelings

-kuribo, the Crimson Fucker

[Ozgin]

If there's a town bus driver now might be a good time to at least crumb it.

omg if you are town I have words to say in post game

Hmm actually.
How does Berlin Undercity Mafia incinerate? Surely doesn't eviscerate as we linked that to Drixx's werewolf faction in his role PM. If werewolf is SK instead of mafia2, I don't understand Marquis' double shot death, so I was leaning heavily on "Volcano Mafia" and "Werewolf" as 2 scum factions.
Something somewhere is not right.
UNVOTE:

All I know is what my PM reply told me. Unless Ika is a miller, which they did not subscribe to, then I have to trust what the mod told me.

[Pirate Ika]

that was directed ozgin

[BBmolla]

If I think BBMolla is scum (and I kinda do) then his lynch should be on the table. The game isn't gonna be won on clever use of abilities, it's going to be won with scum lynches. it's like that has become an after thought to set-up spec. I'm not just blaming Titus for it, so I don't want that confused, I'm blaming Titus for doing her part to advance a scum agenda.

Can we at least use my ability before we mislynch me

[BBmolla]

Also how the fuck am I a "good lynch".
I was "fucking town" yesterday before twighlight. I claimed, didn't die and only one kill happened. How fucking far-streched is your mind to think that I'm still SK and not a commuter. ESPECIALLY when one night kill was blocked possibly be me.

This post made me dumber and I regret reading it

[BBmolla]

Is BRantz going to fucking leave so I can vote or not

[BBmolla]

Ok, starting with this on BBmolla:

Now, the whole argument that he's town because he claimed an unlikely scum role early game is worth nothing. It's called the fluffy kitten gambit (found it while sorting articles as wiki moderator, I've read a good deal of them now). Basically it's a gambit where someone claims a role that seems so unlikely for scum to claim at an unlikely time that people will hopefully see them as town due to the unlikelihood of scum actually claiming that. BB's a clever guy and a good mafia player, this isn't something I'd rule out. Maybe if this had come from a newbie or new player, I'd consider it town however BB's not that.
This makes his claim null, the ability claimed with it also isn't alignment indicative.

To some up his play: he's commenting on a lot but isn't pushing anything. It feels forced.

He's made comments on lucian being terrible, others either dumb or scum, however there's a lack of BBmolla pushing these people or explaining these thoughts of his. He may comment and rant however there's no desire to find scum in his posts.


His reads are also pretty general, following others but in a manner which doesn't look like opportunism. Take a look at his vote on vonflare in his ISO early game, the vote on vyse is also well timed and the unvote back to lucian comes after vyse wagon seems to be loosing traction.
The jackal votes are also meh.

But I forgot my main scum read I forgot while away. Lhin, this will have a big case.
VOTE: Lihin

Pr-edit: Titus, I'm not allowed to commute an use whatever I get later at the same time. Not gain an ability if I don't commute.

Why the fuck make a case on me and then pussy out and not vote me after it

Come at me

[God of Power Outlets]

Molla if it makes you feel better I don't think you're scum


But then again I'm kinda phoning it in for this game because you people are so fucking boring I just want to tear my eyes out, eat them, shit them out, and mail them to you guys


-kbo

[Pirate Ika]

ok two things:


1- I said this in the mason PT and I'll say it here, setup spec is the most boring fucking thing ever. Stop fucking claiming every five seconds and stop trying to outguess the mod. It literally makes me hate all of you.

2- if ozgin is claiming a guilty on mollie, there's only one play to make: one of them has to die

unvote
Vote: pirate ika

That's all. Having a shitty day, don't bother engaging me if you have soft feelings

-kuribo, the Crimson Fucker

you are fucking retarded

THERE IS 1 DEATH HEY YEAH EVEN WITH A GLOBAL BUS DRIVER WE ARE STILL PRETTY FUCKING TOWN HERE I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO OUR ROLE BLOCK COS NO1 IS CLAIMING THAT THEY RECEIVED FRUIT AND I AM LOOKING ORANGE BUT THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER EXPLANATION

[Ozgin]

Guys, please lynch or shoot ika for the love of god. Otherwise I'm dead.

Please, do the obviously right thing here.

If I'm wrong, crush my head between two cinderblocks. Seriously, I'm down for it.

[BBmolla]

word

glad to have you back kuribo

If the game goes on and people still have suspicion of me I should probably just use my ability and be lynched, I'm fucking easy mislynch bait in MYLO/LYLO

Who's the vig, shoot ika, I saw the claim, are we seriously considering a bus driver over the obvious

[BBmolla]

If BRantz doesn't fucking leave today I'm lynching him btw