We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[LucianRoy]

Whatever, I'll read, judge the situation, and probably end up killing Pika.

[Ozgin]

Won't even lie.
Didn't read.

O. Lol.

But seriously, Pirate Ika was who I investigated last night, it came back Berlin Undercity Mafia, and if you shoot them I get bulletproof tonight which lets me investigate someone else tomorrow. If you shoot them now, we also can get another read today and a lynch and killing becomes more efficient. People also doubt my cop claim, so you'd not only BP me, you'd verify my alignment. It would be all-around great.

Ika's "defense" is that - "Uhh, I don't know how that even happens! Like I'm so confused! It must have been a bus driver or a framer!" - Basically, they're trying to hide under the

possibility

of a PR that they don't even know exists,

and the unlikely nature of that PR being used on them as opposed to anybody relevant.

[Titus]

Whatever, I'll read, judge the situation, and probably end up killing Pika.

I wouldn't blame you if you did. Right now, my readsare a babbling incoherent mess but I am pretty much the only player who thinks ika may be town.

[copper223]

Nope, I also think it's possible.

[copper223]

But I think you likely have to shoot in this situation regardless.

[LucianRoy]

Also, I read Bulba as town, but Mastin is kind of scummy.
Two sides of the same coin.

I'm a fan of the triple-kill thing he's driving. If I shoot today, I'll basically be conf. town, and then the mafia might want me dead.
Using molla's ability would mean two town are confirmed, and we could probably use this to our advantage in the third consecutive day-phase.

That one long post where Bulba gave all of his reads and ideas was pretty fantastic.

Also, if we skip the night, would Ozgin's BP usage be carried over to the next night, or would that just be too much to hope for?

[Titus]

We are not skipping the night if you shoot. I highlight doubt it is carried over.

You are in no way confirmed town if you do this. I should probably leave you to your delusions but bleh, no one would buythat Lucian.

[Ozgin]

Also, I read Bulba as town, but Mastin is kind of scummy.
Two sides of the same coin.

I'm a fan of the triple-kill thing he's driving. If I shoot today, I'll basically be conf. town, and then the mafia might want me dead.
Using molla's ability would mean two town are confirmed, and we could probably use this to our advantage in the third consecutive day-phase.

That one long post where Bulba gave all of his reads and ideas was pretty fantastic.

Also, if we skip the night, would Ozgin's BP usage be carried over to the next night, or would that just be too much to hope for?

No, It'd basically waste my bulletproof.

[Titus]

@Ozgin, do you think it's possible ika was framed? Why did you check ika?

[copper223]

We are not skipping the night if you shoot. I highlight doubt it is carried over.

You are in no way confirmed town if you do this. I should probably leave you to your delusions but bleh, no one would buythat Lucian.

I agree, but him saying these things after claiming vengilante is why he is likely town regardless.

[Titus]

Won't even lie.
Didn't read.

O. Lol.

But seriously, Pirate Ika was who I investigated last night, it came back Berlin Undercity Mafia, and if you shoot them I get bulletproof tonight which lets me investigate someone else tomorrow. If you shoot them now, we also can get another read today and a lynch and killing becomes more efficient. People also doubt my cop claim, so you'd not only BP me, you'd verify my alignment. It would be all-around great.

Ika's "defense" is that - "Uhh, I don't know how that even happens! Like I'm so confused! It must have been a bus driver or a framer!" - Basically, they're trying to hide under the

possibility

of a PR that they don't even know exists,

and the unlikely nature of that PR being used on them as opposed to anybody relevant.

Ika is always relevant and Marquis alluded to checking them.

[Titus]

We are not skipping the night if you shoot. I highlight doubt it is carried over.

You are in no way confirmed town if you do this. I should probably leave you to your delusions but bleh, no one would buythat Lucian.

I agree, but him saying these things after claiming vengilante is why he is likely town regardless.

True but that's similiar to how I conftown as scum so...

Let's suppose both ika and Ozgin are town, both bps are town, who is scum?

[Ozgin]

Won't even lie.
Didn't read.

O. Lol.

But seriously, Pirate Ika was who I investigated last night, it came back Berlin Undercity Mafia, and if you shoot them I get bulletproof tonight which lets me investigate someone else tomorrow. If you shoot them now, we also can get another read today and a lynch and killing becomes more efficient. People also doubt my cop claim, so you'd not only BP me, you'd verify my alignment. It would be all-around great.

Ika's "defense" is that - "Uhh, I don't know how that even happens! Like I'm so confused! It must have been a bus driver or a framer!" - Basically, they're trying to hide under the

possibility

of a PR that they don't even know exists,

and the unlikely nature of that PR being used on them as opposed to anybody relevant.

Ika is always relevant and Marquis alluded to checking them.

But even so, Titus, it's a stretch to say they would be the target of a Bus Driver or a Framer because there were many people who would be more likely to have been under some microscopes last night (Drixx, Vonflaire, Vyse, or any other big suspicious player from Day 1 interactions). I just don't think PIka would have taken any presidency over very many other players if a role like that was being used. Yes, it's possible, but I highly doubt it's likely.

[Titus]

Then why did you check ika over those other "more relevant" players if you thought the chance of a framer was remote? It makes logical sense to frame the guythe confirmed cop crumbed he would check. Also, how did you not make a note of this and checked the same guy n1?

[LucianRoy]

Narn, I would've expected Molla to be the one to receive protection.
It's kind of weird how you chose the claimed cop, but I still think you're town. Even if I did scum-read you yesterday.

[LucianRoy]

And Titus, It's better if we use Molla's ability now, rather than later.
We shouldn't wait till mylo. That'll just eat up saves from protective roles by keeping him alive.

[Titus]

Also, Marquis claimed cop. You are claiming cop. That didn't send the slightest red flag to you Ozgin?

[Titus]

And Titus, It's better if we use Molla's ability now, rather than later.
We shouldn't wait till mylo. That'll just eat up saves from protective roles by keeping him alive.

Unless their is an SK, the only protective roles we have are bps and treestump. Those cannot protect Molla. Narnian might. His death would resolve a lot, so scum may just avoid killing him or BBMolla entirely.

[LucianRoy]

for the pple who are like titus I am trying to figure out trouser pple's vote on titus. she is largely a townread for me in particular and I want to nix any ideas that i may have to the contrary. I trust the mason claim with trouser pple and toon, what I have are a lot variables sitting in front of me and I am trying to work it out the best that I can.

that is all

Hmm...
It's a good thing this came before the cop claim.

[Titus]

Also I don't really get much of a say if we use Molla's ability. You know, lack of vote and all.

[Titus]

I am starting to think Ozgin's claim is fake.

[LucianRoy]

And Titus, It's better if we use Molla's ability now, rather than later.
We shouldn't wait till mylo. That'll just eat up saves from protective roles by keeping him alive.

Unless their is an SK, the only protective roles we have are bps and treestump. Those cannot protect Molla. Narnian might. His death would resolve a lot, so scum may just avoid killing him or BBMolla entirely.

Maybe there's a probable doc?
Maybe we could use a watcher on him?
Ya never know. You've got to look past the claimed roles.

Also, if we believe Narn, the scum already want molla dead. I doubt they're going to let up anytime soon.

pedit: You could've unstumped, like copper questioned you about. The only person you have to blame for that is yourself.
If you wanted to add your say today by voting, then you could've, and yet, you chose not to...

Other pedit: That makes me want to kill ika more.

[Ozgin]

Also, Marquis claimed cop. You are claiming cop. That didn't send the slightest red flag to you Ozgin?

You're also forgetting that Marquis was a

day

cop who could only target neighbors. That's a rather strange role, and having it with a night cop isn't terribly unrealistic, is it?

[Oranje Crush]

Titus, we'll see if it's fake after ika's dead. Although there may be a framer/tailor it would make ozgin look a lot dodgier, if there are any other cops they should visit him at some point. Fudge, why did jackal have to die, he could of tracked ozgin to make sure he's not killing or something.

[LucianRoy]

Also, Marquis claimed cop. You are claiming cop. That didn't send the slightest red flag to you Ozgin?

You're also forgetting that Marquis was a

day

cop who could only target neighbors. That's a rather strange role, and having it with a night cop isn't terribly unrealistic, is it?

Also, this is a combination of two balanced mini set-ups.
His claim is completely plausible.